Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:24:58 UTC No. 16259023

Hmm. It's almost as if IQ scores are a useless metric and have no correlation to future success.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:43:44 UTC No. 16259063

All
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Cut you.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:45:10 UTC No. 16259066

>>16259019
The Chinese cheat on every test, every exam, everything. They even cheat when doing business. Their students will protest when the schools or the government tries to crack down on cheating.
China is a nation built on fraud. Their IQ scores are no different.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:53:17 UTC No. 16259073

>>16259023
This is factually untrue
>>16259063
what the fuck are you talking about
>>16259066
then why do their iq scores correlate with other east asian ethnic groups, it is genetic after all. also why are their iq’s even higher in the west, and why are they so overrepresented in in western academics?

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:55:51 UTC No. 16259076

>>16259066
Theseus’ maze would not function if not incorporating loop structures. It would be for the best if the west rather than oppose architecture take up interior design

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 01:08:19 UTC No. 16259101

>>16259076
Could you translate this please

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 03:28:39 UTC No. 16259241

>>16259073
>also why are their iq’s even higher in the west
that's true of like every legal immigrant group

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:16:40 UTC No. 16259576

>>16259073
>why are their iq’s even higher in the west
They cheat even more over here.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:21:27 UTC No. 16259586

>>16259019
iq in every country is 100 on average by construction you dumbass
stop wasting our resources you mouth breathing cow.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:38:22 UTC No. 16259599

>>16259019
130 IQ is Joe Rogan level brains, not that useful. IQ doesn't really start getting powerful until you cross 150.
>>16259066
Also this.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 12:59:09 UTC No. 16259689

>>16259066
china's virtues are fraud, betrayal and cruelty. please respect thisculture. it's very old.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:13:50 UTC No. 16259969

>>16259689
then they wouldn’t be hired at such an extraordinary rate

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:22:33 UTC No. 16259976

SCI should only allow 300 IQ megaintellects. Some of the people claiming SCI should have a IQ limit don't cut the curve. 160 IQ acatards deserve bannings. I've noticed a few 300 IQ geniuses on this board, who refrain from being measured by aca online tests and who don't meet the ol dead Jews schedule. We need a temporary movement before the final solution. Don't we?

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:15:10 UTC No. 16260036

>>16259019
>Considering the average IQ in China is 105 compared to the European 100

Chinese do NOT test everyone like in Europe, they only test the smartest.
100% positive average Chinese IQ is below 100.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:19:50 UTC No. 16260042

>>16259019
High IQ is not enough, conscientiousness is more important as long as IQ is not too low.
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Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:30:17 UTC No. 16260054

>>16260036
then why do their scores align with other east asians like Koreans, Japanese, and Taiwanese? Seems odd that only China would be below 100

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:36:51 UTC No. 16260064

>>16260054
>then why do their scores align with other east asians like Koreans, Japanese, and Taiwanese?

Again.. they do NOT test everyone.
USA scores on average are low because we include 'urban youth' in the scoring, remove them and the score goes up a lot.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:42:09 UTC No. 16260071

>>16259019
Chinks lack creativity because they have no soul. Pure intelligence without creativity can't create anything of a value

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 18:19:59 UTC No. 16260103

>>16259019
>130+ IQ
even if that was true, see north korea, nobody has any power to do anything since theyre oppressed and beaten like dogs.
asians are tyranny worshipers who hate each other more than anything. for iq to matter you need a civilized society - something asians are incapable of.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 18:25:30 UTC No. 16260108

>>16260064
so all east asians fake their tests. while a nearly mono-ethnic country like iceland has their IQ’s plummeted by their non-whites… sounds like cope
>>16260071
what about everything they did create?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 18:31:00 UTC No. 16260119

>>16259023
fpbp

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:42:04 UTC No. 16260183

>>16259023
>>16259066
>>16259576
>>16259586
>>16259599
>>16260036
>>16260064
>>16260071

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:46:18 UTC No. 16260186

>>16259101
That is google translate for you. Just git gud.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:15:20 UTC No. 16260213

>>16259023
It doesn't have no correlation by any means, it is just far from a perfect fit.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:36:13 UTC No. 16260231

>>16260183
The chinese who refuse to test anyone outside of the coast yeah

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 21:56:29 UTC No. 16260300

>>16259019
Communism
See how many geniuses the Republic of China / Taiwan churned out
The CCP knows this and actively tries to poach them

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:05:21 UTC No. 16260315

>>16260300
how is communism holding then back, and what geniuses has taiwan produced?

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:14:04 UTC No. 16260375

>>16260315
Look up TSMC

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:54:36 UTC No. 16260406

>>16260103
>something asians are incapable of.
I disagree, but given that PRC is just being plain idiotic atm as well as need to change the paradigm towards healthier, less artificial ways, I can understand that outlook.
It is a fact that domestic impression of the Far East is distorted by various outdated sociocultural factors, but some people also overdid it on with going full on weeb.
Time has come to normalize things again.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 00:13:08 UTC No. 16260424

>>16259019
>So then how come they aren’t intellectually and /sci/entifically dominating everyone else right now?
They don't?

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 00:29:30 UTC No. 16260438

>>16260424
It's necessary to affect a form of regime change in the PRC at some point, because chinese communist intelligence bullshit has global implications.
What needs to happen first is better management needs to get in here by 2025. Only then can we deal with iran and PRC.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 00:53:07 UTC No. 16260461

>>16259241
People forget US imports the best of the best through their legal routes. This does not apply to Canada or places in europe, but US is just that good at it

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 00:54:13 UTC No. 16260463

>>16260103
>for iq to matter you need a civilized society - something asians are incapable of.
Japan & South Korea are more civilized than any western country, they have the lowest crime rates and respect the law to the point where you can walk into a store without any employees and be expected to pay.
>>16260300
Did the USSR not produce geniuses?

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:05:03 UTC No. 16260476

>>16260463
Equating USSR with PRC in terms of political governance is a bad idea.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:20:47 UTC No. 16260493

>>16260476
Yeah, PRC is less communist. so explain how communism is holding them back

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:25:34 UTC No. 16260498

>>16259019
chinese iq testing is probably mostly accurate, contrary to what some retards in this thread are claiming, with china's iq probably being between 100 and 105:
https://www.sebjenseb.net/p/iq-of-china

but the reason china is not scientifically dominating is that innovation requires more than just intelligence. maybe it requires fighting against conformity. east asians are more conformist. maybe some of it has to do with the inertia of china having been communist and authoritarian decades ago.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:39:28 UTC No. 16260507

>>16260493
PRC is an abomination still run by very idiotic people who should be replaced with sound minded members who understand why they need to be put on probation for a time being.
Their social dynamic is very unhealthy. Even Chinese-Americans frequently struggle with their less than ideal habits.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:43:58 UTC No. 16260511

>>16260498
Since Chinese communists have been BTFO because of 'reasons', and because combined jewish/old guard globalist - PRC communist plan for the future is pretty much trashed, I can talk about this stuff casually.
Chinese behavioral set stems from two out of their three major dynasties being ruled by vicious non-han groups, and the fact that they are taught to be subservient to a central authority. It is meant to destroy a population's agency and turn them into drones, which we should avoid at all costs.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:46:46 UTC No. 16260513

>>16259976
It would be nice if /sci/ became more like pre-2019 /pol/ with mature, intelligent, high functioning 157 IQ crowd instead of shitface average 130 IQ DEI hires larping right now.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 03:54:17 UTC No. 16260634

>>16260463
>Did the USSR not produce geniuses?
Not during the period they were fully communized. They inherited the geniuses from the Russian Empire.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 04:10:18 UTC No. 16260649

Neoteny.

As your brain ages it undergoes a transformation in adulthood from high fluid intelligence to crystallized intelligence. Asians, due to culture/language, have evolved high fluid intelligence low crystallized. The latter is (mostly) the only important type of intelligence for math/science. Phenotypically Asian's high physical neoteny is reflective of their high mental neoteny.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 05:04:21 UTC No. 16260693

>>16259066
WE NO CHEAT! CHINA NUMBER ONE!

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:44:21 UTC No. 16261083

>>16260634
Damn only 3 of the 11 Soviet Nobel prize winners were actually born in the Soviet Union

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:29:33 UTC No. 16261139

>>16260634
>>16261083
Good point.
>>16260649
You sure you aren't projecting your own neotenous behaviors onto more developed people you are trying to actively suppress out of anxiety?

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:58:19 UTC No. 16261174

USSR was just a continuation of Russian Empire under a different name and divergent ideological management, with heavy emphasis on self-deception and secrecy for the sake of national security and unity.
If only 3 out of 11 USSR Nobel Prize winners were actually born in the Soviet era, it may be that they refused to publicize their more advanced scientific achievements for the sake of advancing national military-science-industrial goals.
Basically, they might have sealed away of their advanced scientific achievements under national security directives somewhere in Siberia.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:59:20 UTC No. 16261176

>>16261174
>most of*

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:57:59 UTC No. 16261720

>>16261174
Yeah that's part of the problem, resources can be concentrated more effectively with an authoritarian system but that can lead to misprioritization like the USSR having advanced computer scientists but refusing to take digitization seriously throughout the 70s leading to it falling behind
If you discount a field of research and don't allocate any resources towards it or direct interest towards it the level of expertise in it decays
China is able to work around this better than the Soviets did because they have some degree of private enterprise and they send their students abroad to Western universities to harvest the latest research from them, while running a propaganda campaign about how racist the West is to Asians to encourage expats to join Chinese institutions. They're still blindsided in fields where advances are kept highly in-house though like within SpaceX and OpenAI. For all their investment in AI over the last decade they didn't produce the LLM.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:21:10 UTC No. 16261753

>>16261720
As far as the chinese communists are concerned, it's all about geopolitics. Their governing mentality rests on the foundation that a central chinese government is by default morally, culturally, political superior to all others, as all chinese dynasties before them thought. If this isn't the case, they have to do whatever it takes to undermine, destabilize, or usurp another state that genuinely presents a threat to this world view. This is more than ethnocentric ideals, it's a political tunnel vision and a fixation in their psyche.
On the other hand, we have a bunch of morons running this country who declared godhood (like a bunch of coping plantation niggas) and believes they are divinely ordained to be the salt of the earth, and if anyone gets in their way, they are entitled to lie, steal, scam, and wage whatever war deemed necessary. Except these idiots have turned the entire world against them because culturally and morally they are brainwashed savages who are equivalent of ISIS. Drug use is rampant, along with sexual immorality and racial tensions resulting from countless psyops and counter psyops. These people apparently were never properly corrected any time in their lives.
Communists vs. crypto communist-pseudo religious brainwashed zombies. What a match up.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 12:13:39 UTC No. 16262752

>>16259969
What is ethno nepotism
What is selecting for qualified/over qualified immigrants (through the legal, careerist pipelines)

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 12:17:33 UTC No. 16262754

>>16261139
NTA. Their neoteny is literally physically observable.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 12:25:30 UTC No. 16262756

>>16262754
Suppose that depends on the individual, but I see your point.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:09:32 UTC No. 16262940

>>16261720

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:13:59 UTC No. 16262949

>>16262940
No wonder I feel stupid all the time.
But then my social IQ may be in the double digits.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 18:48:58 UTC No. 16263100

>>16262940
Writing formally on a Mongolian basket weaving forum is improper form. Perhaps you should consider the audience for the consumption of which a work is written, unless you believe it necessary to always observe all the conventions of prose without qualification like some specie of grammatical Kantian.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 19:03:19 UTC No. 16263110

IQ doesn't follow a bell curve. Anyone with an IQ above 80 should know this.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 19:07:53 UTC No. 16263114

>>16259019
>So then how come they aren’t intellectually and /sci/entifically dominating everyone else right now? How are others competing?


Because science is dead, all the low hanging fruit has been picked out. You can churn out a 1000 field winning medalists, they're not gonna do anything besides work on a very niche mathematical theorem no one cares about or optimize some code by 10%
the era of scientific and technological innovation is over. All that remains today is to focus on producing the necessities of industrial society in scale. And they're doing that, they're producing electric cars, solar panel, building nuclear reactors and smart phones.

What do you expect them to do? Literally half of all the papers nowadays have Chinese names on them, it's just that that doesn't mean anything anymore.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 19:36:52 UTC No. 16263150

>>16263110
so what does it follow then?

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 19:53:48 UTC No. 16263183

>>16263114
>the era of scientific and technological innovation is over. All that remains today is to focus on producing the necessities of industrial society in scale. And they're doing that, they're producing electric cars, solar panel, building nuclear reactors and smart phones.
Justasplanned.jpg

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 19:59:23 UTC No. 16263200

>>16263183
There's no plan. It's just that contrary to what many believe technology isn't magic. Once you've mastered the use of electromagnetic force to communicate information fast and accurate there's nowhere to go.
At that point you just focus on making food and clothes and building shelter, and improving the standard of life. The future is gonna be just more of what we have now.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 20:01:29 UTC No. 16263201

>>16263200
For the Chinese, I mean.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 20:08:05 UTC No. 16263213

>>16259019
>how come they aren’t intellectually and /sci/entifically dominating everyone else right now?
They kind of are. China is a world leader or close in pretty much every single field of technology or science.

As to the rest of your post. The number of high IQ people itself says nothing about a countries success. These people need the time and resources and facilities to employ their big brains gainfully. With a bigger population also comes a lot more positions that need to be filled to maintain that big of a nation. The amount of people that can dedicate their time to research instead of production of goods depends on a lot of factors beyond IQ.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 20:31:04 UTC No. 16263246

>>16263213
Conpletely wrong, the number of high IQ people in a countries population directly correlates with it's economic and developmental success. Heiner Rindermann talked about this

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 21:42:43 UTC No. 16263367

>>16263246
>countries
Retard detected

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 21:53:27 UTC No. 16263384

>>16263246
>a countries
Retard detected

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:01:03 UTC No. 16263400

>>16263213

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 00:15:48 UTC No. 16263558

>>16263100
Dubs chekked and noted.
More importantly, it's my fault for sperging and not thinking like a grown adult while provoking emotions that might have had a bad effect on the audience. But then I had assumed that anyone being 'stupid' was a foreign shill and responded accordingly.
It's not easy dealing with the old world malcontents.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 00:23:12 UTC No. 16263566

>>16260375
high-tech sweatshop running european machines producing american chip designs

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 00:42:12 UTC No. 16263579

>>16263114
>Literally half of all the papers nowadays have Chinese names on them

In China 12 scientists each produce one paper a year, BUT they co-author with the other 11 scientists... it looks like they are super genius hard workers!
A scientist gets one paper per month with his name on it.
You get new PhD students with with dozens of papers they 'co-authored'.
The West has woken up to this scam and 'tests' Chinese PhD researchers before hiring.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 03:43:54 UTC No. 16263710

>>16259023
go back to plebbit
probably chinks are faking results, like israel.
also it could be genetically determined personality differences.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 04:09:19 UTC No. 16263749

>>16259019
The outliers learned to pretend to be normal ever since the great leap forward. No space to make moves in Xi's utopia. Also, same problem as India. Huge population and an untold number of people trapped in rural areas with no prospects. What's up with all these China threads on 4chan lately? Constantly see China nubma 1 threads on /g/ as well.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 05:52:59 UTC No. 16263891

>>16259019
>chinese can't remember their own language
>not good for science
this is a legitimate issue for chinese people. lol...their language is not optimized for representing reality

Also, even so, the chinese are still competing with most other nations or ahead of them. I like the Chinese most of the time, but I am sad they have been supporting wars. I understand it also needs allies but in reality, every country is basically a stupid child.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:16:26 UTC No. 16264333

>>16263891
I've been told they had to learn English in order to map out their keyboard because Chinese language is too archaic.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:33:44 UTC No. 16264342

>>16259023
its not useless you retard, it just doesn't measure what you think it does. it measures GENERAL intelligence

not specific intelligence
not creativity
not industriousness

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:28:52 UTC No. 16264397

>>16264342
This is probably where more specialized abstract reasoning tests come in.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:36:52 UTC No. 16264803

>>16263114
The answer is this

Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:55:33 UTC No. 16265219

>>16259066
>t. seething pajeet

Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 01:26:39 UTC No. 16265247

>>16259023
exactly.
imagine thinking that intercepting a pattern in a sequence of meaningless shapes means something
what is most amusing is that this is a test developed by jews, and the eugenics fanatics feel an uncontrollable urge to defend their delusion because if not it means that their race hierarchy hypothesis will collapse.
to see them strive and using any means to justify this jewish test legitimacy, indicates the most catatonic dissonance seen in human groups

Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 01:59:04 UTC No. 16265275

>>16265247
Even if IQ is bullshit, any form of measuring intelligence will align with the “racial hierarchy”

Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:30:37 UTC No. 16265304

>>16259019
There are many ethnic Chinese who have excelled in the nonfascist environment of < 1999 America.