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Anonymous No. 16260112

Has science ever figured out why the 1930s were so hot? Its still the all time hottest decade on record and there was much less CO2 in the atmosphere back then.

Anonymous No. 16260118

It was the great depression. It had to balance out the cold stock market

Anonymous No. 16260127

>the dust bowl is some arcane soience knowledge

Anonymous No. 16260129

They also don't know what caused Great Frost of 1709. It's just one of those things that randomly happen sometimes.

Anonymous No. 16260131

>>16260127
Dust storms lower temperatures, not raise them. The dust storms themselves were caused by two factors: an extended natural drought and poor farming techniques. The drought was natural and now is combated through deep wells. The poor farming techniques lead to dust in the atmosphere, lowering temperatures. No one, not even the most nutty of global warming activists, agree with your claim.

Anonymous No. 16260145

>>16260112
Let me guess, it's
>da joos
>science bad
etc. et al.

Anonymous No. 16260150

>>16260131
>Dust storms lower temperatures, not raise them. The dust storms themselves were caused by two factors: an extended natural drought and poor farming techniques. The drought was natural and now is combated through deep wells. The poor farming techniques lead to dust in the atmosphere, lowering temperatures. No one, not even the most nutty of global warming activists, agree with your claim.
How do you figure? I do a search and there is a whole bunch of sources talking about dry soil amplifying heat waves.
https://doi.org/10.1175/JCLI-D-16-0436.1

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Anonymous No. 16260158

>>16260112
>why the 1930s were so hot?
They weren't.

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Anonymous No. 16260175

>>16260145
>>16260158

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Anonymous No. 16260177

>>16260158
Even assuming we can trust the data in the picture those are global averages, you imbecile moron.

Anonymous No. 16260198

>>16260177
You didn't ask why your bumfuck nowhere backwater was so hot, you ask why it was hot in general. And it wasn't.
>Even assuming we can trust the data
If it reinforced your opinion you would've believed it without second thought.

Anonymous No. 16260317

>>16260177
that graph you replied to is completely fake, it can't be real because there wasn't the global network of weather stations needed to create a global temperature average in the 1800s

Anonymous No. 16260318

>>16260177
Averages are what you use to determine these things moron. You know that the 1930's was an entire decade, right? You know the temperature didn't stay the same the whole time, right? You know different places were different temperatures, right? How do you rectify that? Averages.

Go be a retard somewhere else.

Anonymous No. 16260319

>>16260317
Retard.

Anonymous No. 16260471

>>16260118
>It was the great depression
Literally this. Soup kitchens generate a lot of heat.

Anonymous No. 16260717

>>16260112
the industrial revolution.

someone figured out if you spew different chemicals into the atmosphere it will change its reflectivity.

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Anonymous No. 16260726

>>16260145
>We has your faith in us faltered?

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Anonymous No. 16260727

>>16260158
>Unironically posts the debunked Mann Hockeystick.

Anonymous No. 16260791

>>16260112
>Has science ever figured out why the 1930s were so hot in twenty-one US states?
FTFY

Anonymous No. 16260794

>>16260791
>>16260112
actually, as per your image:
>Has science ever figured out why June 26, 1936, was so hot in twenty-one US states?
There, now I truly FTFY

Anonymous No. 16260879

>>16260726
1989? really? was that the consensus? all climate scientists said that? Can you show us?
One or two scientists doesn't count, I want the consensus.
The same goes for the rest, because you know, some image you just conjured up doesn't count.

Anonymous No. 16261082

>>16260727
Retard.

Anonymous No. 16261887

>>16260879
>1989? really? was that the consensus? all climate scientists said that?
Hate scum like you. Scientists' consensus is not importance; what the public has been lead to believe is.
We've been propagandized to believe that if we don't surrender our freedoms, we'll all die. E.g. we're mandated to have gasoline tainted with ethanol, e.g. we can't have CFCs in our air conditioning, e.g. we can't have engines over a particular displacement.
So on and so on, all because "headline: we're gonna die by 19XX if you don't do as the government demands.
Kill yourself evil statist scum.

Anonymous No. 16261894

>>16261887
Retard.

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Anonymous No. 16261928

>>16260158
US was a bit

Anonymous No. 16261946

>>16261928
The peak for the US on that graph is 1940

Anonymous No. 16262065

>>16260112
Probably for the same reason weather is all fucked up today: bad stewardship of biomes. What the Earth is experiencing right now is widespread, but localized desertification because humans are destroying all the plants.

Anonymous No. 16262069

>>16260131
>natural drought
Somebody needs to re-read about the dust bowl. There isn't a god damned thing natural about it. Foolish and destructive agricultural practices directly lead to massive climate disaster and starvation.

Anonymous No. 16263326

>>16262069
thats not what happened

Anonymous No. 16263865

>>16260158
>literally cooked data

Anonymous No. 16263884

>>16263865
According to who?

Anonymous No. 16263905

>>16263326
It is what happened though. Farmers fucked the topsoil and it all blew away. That's exactly what happened. They literally revised farming practices in response to the dustbowl to prevent shit like that from happening as often and being as bad again.

Anonymous No. 16264112

>>16263905
Do you even know what a drought is? Hint: it involves the sky, not the dirt.

Anonymous No. 16265138

>>16263905
you have no idea what you're talking about

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Anonymous No. 16267273

>>16266274
if global warming were real all of those temperature records wouldn't mostly over or near 100 years old. the fact that they are prove that the climate is actually cooling off, not warming

Anonymous No. 16267383

>>16261887
>Scientists' consensus is not importance; what the public has been lead to believe is.
And that's where you're wrong.
OP asked a scientific question, so we're talking about science, not the perception the public might or might not have of it.

so, again:
was that the consensus? all climate scientists said that? Can you show us?
One or two scientists doesn't count, I want the consensus.
The same goes for the rest, because you know, some image you just conjured up doesn't count.

Anonymous No. 16267465

>>16260112
>it's another "idiots don't understand what the 'global' in 'global warming ' means" thread

Anonymous No. 16267474

>>16261887
So you blame all scientists because you refuse to educate yourself and let yourself be manipulated by whatever is being pushed on tv.

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Anonymous No. 16267483

>>16266274
Something's off between your map and NOAA's data. Check it out, this is Colorado's July temperature.

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Anonymous No. 16267486

>>16266274
>>16267483
New York state also doesn't match

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Anonymous No. 16267487

>>16266274
nor Wisconsin
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/climate-at-a-glance/statewide/time-series/47/tmax/1/7/1895-2024?trend=true&trend_base=100&begtrendyear=1895&endtrendyear=2024

Anonymous No. 16267623

>>16267474
You just described all of /pol/

Anonymous No. 16268525

>>16267483
>NOAA
thats a government propaganda agency, not a scientific organization

Anonymous No. 16269907

>>16260177
its not possible to have global averages in the pre-satellite era, reliable ground stations weren't widespread enough. some agencies try to circumvent this using interpolation (((models))) but they only do that because they're looking for an excuse to come up with a misleading average that has political implications.

Anonymous No. 16269930

>>16269907
>>16268525
Cope harder

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Anonymous No. 16271052

>>16260726

Anonymous No. 16271484

>>16260198
True!

Anonymous No. 16271630

>>16267623
Zing!
Here's your reddit gold, stranger :)

Anonymous No. 16271643

>>16264112
>>16265138
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Resources_Conservation_Service
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tillage_erosion

Dumb motherfuckers.

Anonymous No. 16271816

>>16271643
all my niggas are No-till gang

Anonymous No. 16272295

>>16260112
temperature fluctuates throughout the centuries, in the 60s scientists thought the planet would freeze over

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Anonymous No. 16272530

>>16260112
>>16260131
>>16263326

It was literally the Dust Bowl.

American Farmers aggressively tilled the interior of the United States to the point of stripping off most prairie grasses, trees, and really anything that could hold onto the soil in any meaningful way. No hedges, no cover cropping, either. This also had three other additional effects: 1. Without vegetation there was nothing to trap, consume, or hold onto moisture when it rained, water landing on hot, exposed, soil evaporates faster than it can be absorbed into aquifers. 2. Without vegetation there is no humidification/perspiration/transpiration - the thing where plants open their pores at night to exhale gases and water vapor. 3. Dark soil hot.
These factors were all exacerbated by geography as well: most of these places were like a 1,000 miles away from the ocean.

The Dust Bowl made it hot in the exact same way a paved parking lot is hot.
Also, to the silly-billy who said "well dust storms lower temperatures" - they can temporarily when the wind is blowing because of the shade they create, but this is trivial compared to the intense prolonged heat they create when the dust sits around in the sun.

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Anonymous No. 16272603

>>16260112
Hot meteorologists.

Anonymous No. 16272640

>>16272530
LOL, Seattle was hot because a small part of the desert scrub far away was dry. I love people like you because you're so stupid you discredit what you see as your "side" through the sheer idiocy of your statements.

Anonymous No. 16273290

>>16267483
>>16267486
>>16267487
"adjusted"

Anonymous No. 16273292

>>16267474
>whatever is being pushed on tv
The global climate catastrophe scam?

Anonymous No. 16273434

>>16273290
Explain in your own words what you think that means.