Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 12:24:50 UTC No. 16267519

>>16267517
>we
Not you or most people, only the hyper-billionaires will.
Now pay your taxes.

sage at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 12:34:59 UTC No. 16267530

>>16267517
Not until we escape capitalism.

>the fragility of life
Life has existed for over 3.5 billion years and has survived a series of catastrophic global events. If there's one quality to life, it's that it adapts, evolves and ultimately grows from it.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 12:37:28 UTC No. 16267533

Planets are overrated.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 12:38:24 UTC No. 16267534

>>16267517
>escape this rock
very possible
>find another planet
earth is the only naturally habitable planet in the universe.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 12:38:25 UTC No. 16267535

>>16267533
Space in general is overrated, no point in being so enthusiastic about it if you're still gonna be on this specific rock wageslaving.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 12:48:52 UTC No. 16267544

>>16267534
>earth is the only naturally habitable planet in the universe.
why is it so difficult to find earth like planets
all that is needed is a magnetic field, an atmosphere that's not too thick or thin, solid surface, oceans, temperature between -20 to 50, oxygen and carbon dioxide
how come it be so rare

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 14:07:41 UTC No. 16267610

We have a billion years. We have only just entered the space age. Once we exit this dark age by exterminating the Jews, forcing shitskins out of white countries, and removing degeneracy, space exploration will accelerate. Unfortunately, this won't happen in mine or your lifetime. We were born in a dark age, best to just accept it. Maybe we will get to see Starshot return pictures of Proxima b, but that is about everything we will get to see. That is the harsh truth, sorry.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 14:09:21 UTC No. 16267613

>>16267610
As long as someone like you exist we're going to be stuck in the dark age for sure.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 14:15:36 UTC No. 16267615

Yes. Mars will become black colony and everyone will live in the pods there. Jews will win.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 18:31:38 UTC No. 16267895

>>16267544
>why is it so difficult to find earth like planets
Because both of you are just pulling numbers out of your asses.
I'll play the game too and say the most difficult part is a breathable atmosphere.
It should exist only on planets with the same kind of life evolved here on Earth.
An Earth like planet with a non breathable atmosphere anyway is still a lot easier to colonize than mars for example.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 20:01:03 UTC No. 16268015

>earth isn't good enough for me
>i'm such a super special snowflake that i clearly deserve more than just the mere earth

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 20:12:10 UTC No. 16268031

>>16268015
earth won't be habitable in less than 1 billion years retard

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 20:53:00 UTC No. 16268074

>>16268031
oh shit oh fuck oh shi-

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 21:28:07 UTC No. 16268106

>>16267610
>once we destroy our rival chimps we disagree with, we are free to destroy the rest of the universe
Yeah i rather see our kind go extinct than spreading your soulless cancer anywhere

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 21:33:40 UTC No. 16268111

>>16267613
Your utopia of a one world, one race civilisation is impossible. Only whites and some Europeans are able to achieve such feats. If we send niggers to colonise other planets that assures our destruction as a species. They don't contribute anything, they just freeload off of us. Don't worry though. The west will collapse, just like Rome did, and whites will spark the space age, while race traitors like you will be left to burn on Earth.
>>16268106
Kill yourself, demoralising Jewish piece of trash. For all of modern history the white man has dominated the planet, brining peace and civilisation to land which was otherwise overrun with barely human monkeys running around doing fuck all. Space IS the white man's home.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 21:34:53 UTC No. 16268112

>>16267517
>>16268031
The climate alarmists said it wasn't going to be habitable in 5-10 years.

You'd better hurry up on that little space project, son.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 08:18:55 UTC No. 16268686

>>16268111
You're completely full of shit though.
Get out, touch grass.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 08:59:14 UTC No. 16268720

>>16268686
Nope. I'm right. Go back to R3ddit.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 09:19:25 UTC No. 16268736

>>16267517
the most realistic scenario is that sentient machines will take over as they're much more durable, can be sustained on much less and can be powered directly from the sun. the universe was not made for fleshies

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 09:21:56 UTC No. 16268738

>>16268736
They will work and fleshies will just be given care, in isolation from each other

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 09:29:50 UTC No. 16268747

>>16268738
the only fleshies left will be put in zoos. this universe was not built to sustain them in large numbers anywhere but earth

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 12:13:06 UTC No. 16268866

>>16267517
What's rough is that Titan's atmosphere will evaporate as soon as the Sun expands to Red Giant phase. Triton and Pluto unironically look like the best bets, underground cities. We have to deal with cryovolcanism though. Make sure we our infrastructure withstands the quakes.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:57:18 UTC No. 16268971

>>16267517
Why not start with trying to escape your room first champ

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:41:20 UTC No. 16269613

>>16267517
By 2100, our child AI will be leaving the solar system in every direction in thousands of tiny "starships" the size of a .223 cartridges. By 2200, biological humans will only exist (if at all) on Earth, purely to curate the fauna and remnants of physical civilization for curious virtuals, who are capable of sky-diving on the sun with their foglet bodies. By 2300, the AI/humanity civilization will have relocated to the much more fertile Alpha Centauri star system to build Dyson Cloud bases around all three stars.

In a billion years, AI/humanity will have either suffused all of the Milky Way and its immediate galactic cluster or created an entire universe of its own to inhabit, which is probably the destiny of all civilizations and the cause of the Fermi Paradox.

tl;dr: I wouldn't worry about the sun expanding.

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:53:39 UTC No. 16269758

>>16269613
Nice fan fic bro

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:50:15 UTC No. 16269802

>>16267517
We're doing it this century. It turns out you can make a booster out of cheap steel and land it. Even if the US suddenly loses steam, China would catch up in a couple decades. The second stage doesn't even matter that much but it might be reusable soon too. Once Mars is self sustaining you'll have a self selected population of rugged explorers. Who knows what they'll set their sights on next. Maybe everywhere, for all time

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:13:59 UTC No. 16269895

>>16267895
>An Earth like planet with a non breathable atmosphere anyway is still a lot easier to colonize than mars for example.
how do you figure that one?

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:23:03 UTC No. 16270555

>>16269758
If it's scientifically possible, it's do-able. Smartphones would've seemed like outlandish conjecture in only 1980. When I hear OP complaining about the dangers of the sun expanding, it's like hearing Jules Verne complain that no balloon will ever be built large enough to reach Jupiter.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:31:11 UTC No. 16272235

>>16267519
>>16267517
>will we ever be able to escape this rock and find another planet once earth becomes unhabitable in a billion years,
do you really think humans could last billion years

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:33:56 UTC No. 16272243

Impossible with 2 billion (soon to be 5 billion) net drain niggers weighing us down.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:40:32 UTC No. 16272253

Unlikely. This our great filter.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 01:03:52 UTC No. 16272278

>>16272253
Unironically it probably is. On our plant it taken the form of the browns not being able to advance beyond low medieval culture or mentality. We have the horrible mix on the planet of 1/4 rich, enlightened, high tech, post-industrial nations. But still something like half of the population is living in a early to mid-industrial society. with the bottom 1/4 living in a pre-industrial Feudal society still.

Look, you can't blame soft hearted liberals for getting fucked up by the woke mind virus. Because a safe, healthy lifestyle leads to generations having the comfort to develop an overabundance of empathy, too much. This makes them feel weird about being able to door-dash 20 dollar coffee when their phones can show them live-feeds of active war, famine, and destruction happening elsewhere.

Our only hope is that we can reach the next cultural step where general people can be aware of wider problems, but not mentally poisoned by their own haywire empathy.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 01:41:38 UTC No. 16272306

>>16267544
You need almost the exact same conditions as our solar system if you want to make another Earth.
>G-type main sequence star with just the right balance of helium and hydrogen
>huge collection of captured asteroids with the right amounts of iron, nickel and water
>these asteroids smash into each other over billions of years to create a handful of rocky planets
>if you’re very, very lucky one of these planets will be in the Goldilocks zone
>luckier still, a massive gas giants form in the outer solar system to collect the loose asteroids that are still flying around and stop New Earth from being constantly bombarded
>hopefully a moon or two have formed to act as a last line of defense from asteroids
>hopefully enough nickel and iron have collected at New Earth’s core and hopefully the appropriate pressure is present to encourage convection and form a magnetic field strong enough to let in just the right amount of solar radiation
And that’s just to get to the end of the Hadean. Life support is the next hurdle to jump. It’s a miracle we’re even here.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 01:52:44 UTC No. 16272322

>>16267517
>>16267517
>will we ever be able to escape this rock and find another planet once earth becomes unhabitable in a billion years,
No.

Science ended in the 20th century. There is nothing left to discover, merely engineering problems. Ascending above Kardashev-1 is impossible, space colonization is impossible and aliens don't exist, that's why we see none.

There will never ever be another fundamental expansion to our understanding of reality that will let us go outside the bounds of what we have known to be possible since the 20th century, theories of everything that is possible and all physics were already solved in the 20th century, every theory that hasn't been proven since the 20th century is BS

String theory, quantum mechanics, eternal inflation, CCC, supersymmetry, changing constants, parallel universes, fifth force, aliens, branes, m-theory, non-equilibrium thermodynamics, what came before the BB, hubble tension, higgs field, negative energy, casimir effect, chaos theory, consciousness, grand unified theory, telescopes, wolfram physics, closed timelike curves, universe's size, anti gravity, functional information, quantum gravity, plasma, time crystals, entanglement, quantum tunneling, AI, MOND, quantized inertia, ToE, fine tuning, quintessence, entropic gravity, wormholes, naked singularities, multiverse, holography, warp drives, solitons, particle colliders, QFT, etc. All of theoretical physics is a BS waste of time, there's NOTHING left to find or invent, we hit a brick wall, we'll never advance past Kardashev-1 (controlling the energy of a planet) period let alone survive cosmic events cause the Cosmological Constant gonna destroy everything

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 02:32:33 UTC No. 16272368

>>16267533
Exactly. Use space resources to build habitats. Seed them from Earth. O'Neill (RIP) and his students are right. Up L5!

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 02:33:34 UTC No. 16272369

>>16267534
>earth is the only naturally habitable planet in the universe.
Really? Been to them all, have you?

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 03:52:01 UTC No. 16272413

>>16267517
It took only 66 years between the Wright Brothers first flight and Apollo 11. After a period of stagnation following the end of the Apollo program, companies like SpaceX have been making major advancements in rocket technology over the past 15 years, and the technology is only going to get better.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 21:44:47 UTC No. 16273287

>>16272278
very enlightening

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 21:53:54 UTC No. 16273299

>>16272278
>post-industrial
No such thing unless the nukes start flying or we invent replicators. Just because your phone is shiny and all your crap is made overseas doesn’t mean you live in some magical bubble apart from the machine.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 22:06:28 UTC No. 16273311

>>16267544
>why is it so difficult to find earth like planets
an earth-like planet requires a goldilocks zone, liquid water, a magnetic field, no tidal locks, gravity of 9.8 m/s^2. That's a lot of conditions for humans to live comfortably.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 00:29:41 UTC No. 16273481

>>16267533
This shit is structurally impossible popsci brain rot, isn't it?

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 00:45:19 UTC No. 16273506

space crap only appeals to people who are such losers here on earth that they're desperate to find any means possible of ignoring the sad unfortunate reality of their own failed lives. you will never find a person leading a successful life that genuinely cares about space because real life is lived here on earth with the rest of the humans.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 01:24:57 UTC No. 16273546

>>16272322
Have you considered reposting this on more mainstream platforms to garner more attention? I would love to see all the popsci drunkards lose their shit over this.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 01:49:04 UTC No. 16273578

>>16273506
So is your argument Elon Musk doesn’t care about space or that he isn’t successful?

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 03:41:27 UTC No. 16273650

>>16273578
He doesn't care about global warming either, he cares a great deal about exploiting idiots for profit.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 05:40:50 UTC No. 16273758

>>16267544
>why is it so difficult to find earth like planets
1. Earth requires a bunch of shit to recreate the conditions of the planet
2. We've barely stepped off our front porch and it gets exponentially more difficult to see things that are farther away

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 09:16:26 UTC No. 16273920

>>16267610
>Once we exit this dark age by exterminating the Jews, forcing shitskins out of white countries, and removing degeneracy
this way, please:
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 09:19:42 UTC No. 16273923

>>16268112
>The climate alarmists said it wasn't going to be habitable in 5-10 years.
that's not what was said. That we had to act in that amount of time is what was and is still being said. and we're failing at it as a species.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 09:25:53 UTC No. 16273927

>>16273506
people are going to end up wageslaves in space and then they'll have to pay for air too.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 17:36:13 UTC No. 16274471

>>16267517
Why do we need to do any of this, why can't you be happy here?

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:12:21 UTC No. 16274565

>>16267517
Probably. Its just a matter of time. Hard to predict if its gonna take 100 years or 1000 since so much depends on our understanding of the universe/technology we develop. And of course also the overall state of the humanity.

Outside of Earth is definitely possible, another star system seems reasonable given we will have proper energy source and develop few tricks, but its not like we have any proof that any civilization ever did it. Another galaxy, highly unlikely, like ever. For now we are stuck on this rock.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:26:46 UTC No. 16274790

>>16269802
>Once Mars is self sustaining you'll have a self selected population of rugged explorers.
Mars will never be self sustaining, but even if it were, it would at best support a population of spiteful gnomes with osteoporosis who'd spend their whole lives underground.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:32:47 UTC No. 16274812

>>16270555
>it's like hearing Jules Verne complain that no balloon will ever be built large enough to reach Jupiter
Verne literally wrote a book shitting on conservative scientists who were claiming that heavier than air flight was impossible.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:41:21 UTC No. 16274971

>>16274812
did those scientists never see birds or what

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:53:56 UTC No. 16275086

>>16274812
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:01:25 UTC No. 16275306

>>16273923
Greta said in 2018 that we have only 5 years to change our ways or we will face doom. Guess what? It is 2024 now. We might not be facing doom right this second, but we will inevitably face it according to Greta. So why sacrifice our QOL by getting rid of "fossil fuels"? Our fate is already sealed.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:22:53 UTC No. 16275644

>>16275306
>Greta
Not a scientist, nor scientific consensus.
>Our fate is already sealed.
Some of it is already, yes, but not all of it.
Don't be a quitter, quitter.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:43:12 UTC No. 16276155

>>16273481
No reason to think that but those specific designs aren't entirely realistic.
They were actually never supposed to be, even O'Neil himself admitted that.
The most realistic designs aren't sexy enough.

Barkon Approved Post at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:46:29 UTC No. 16276159

ACADUMIC citizens won't be able to escape Earth because they're too dumb and it's not a rock, it Earth

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:53:48 UTC No. 16278374

>>16267517
I think long before it becomes inhabitable they'll push for colonies on mars or what have you, the profit margins are far too great to miss out on - imagine a whole other planet's population.

If you think multibillionaires were wealthy now just wait until they ascend with ~2x the Earth's population. If we have any common sense, as common people, we'll do our best to stay on the ground.