🧵 (I am not a robber) What would happen if you put radioactive material in a city's water supply?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:23:53 UTC No. 16269031
It just happened in Brazil that a truck transporting radioactive material for a nuclear power plant was hijacked. We don't know what the material is yet but there are some pictures here: https://www.gov.br/cnen/pt-br/assun
I was thinking, what would happen if the robbers had malicious intent and wanted to cause as much damage as possible? Could they wipe an entire city by putting this in the water source?
(I am obviously not the robbers asking for advice I am just thinking hypothetically)
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:29:54 UTC No. 16269038
That would be extremely painful
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:53:52 UTC No. 16269865
Not my problem
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:30:55 UTC No. 16269955
>>16269038
For you
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:48:44 UTC No. 16270998
Drink hey song sarsaparilla
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 14:45:43 UTC No. 16271522
Drink bleach
bodhi at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 18:13:39 UTC No. 16271734
>>16269031
Water facilities arent fort knox but I imagine they have some level of security. You cant just pick a lock and get into a water treatment plant to do whatever you feel like. Do you mean dumping it in the river? I mean it wouldnt be good. Your country has already been taken over by the (((communists))) so I expect mass death any time now. Just watching the clock tick til millions of dead browns down there
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 18:18:13 UTC No. 16271740
>>16271734
just find the treatment stations where they add fluoride and contaminate those barrels.
bodhi at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 18:23:21 UTC No. 16271747
>>16271740
They arent just sitting around in a field my dude. I imagine they are behind barbed wire fences. But if you really wanted to do it is doable I imagine. The Jews love doing this kind of shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakam
But yah, millions of browns incoming. I would just plan to be dead in a year or two if I was in Brazil. RIP OP I hope you are very brown and not Portugese or German decadent.
bodhi at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 18:24:23 UTC No. 16271749
>>16271747
*descendant
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 21:39:33 UTC No. 16271993
>>16271747
>RIP OP I hope you are very brown and not Portugese or German decadent
I have Spanish citizenship
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 21:55:46 UTC No. 16272017
>>16269031
>Could they wipe an entire city by putting this in the water source?
No. You can't really "transfer" radioactivity from one thing to another. You can bombard some elements with neutrons and turn them into another element that is radioactive, but that's not going to happen here. A worse situation would be something like this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi
Where you just expose groups of people to the radioactivity directly.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:01:00 UTC No. 16272026
>>16272017
>No. You can't really "transfer" radioactivity from one thing to another.
Now that you said it that makes a lot of sense, not sure why I lived most of my life assuming that is how it worked
Thanks for being the only one that answered the thread
So just to be clear, you don't think there is any way to wipe an entire city with just one highly radioactive item? I guess you could hide it somewhere and harm the people that pass nearby, but nothing compared to poisoning a water source
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:09:06 UTC No. 16272045
>>16272026
Thinking about it a little more, the absolute worse case would be dumping a lot of an alpha emitter into the water. Then you'd kind of "pollute" water with alpha particles. But I'd have thought that you'd need a lot of that.
But ultimately no, I don't think it would be possible with one highly radioactive item.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 04:20:13 UTC No. 16272447
>>16271734
you just have to know someone that works at the plant
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 04:56:54 UTC No. 16272473
>>16269031
>>16271993
You're the robber, aren't you?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 05:29:36 UTC No. 16272500
>>16271734
>I expect mass death any time now
two more weeks
bodhi at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 22:13:49 UTC No. 16273319
>>16272017
water contains iron, metals become deadly when bombarded with radioactivity
https://www.healthvermont.gov/envir
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 23:43:27 UTC No. 16273422
>>16269031
the radiation isn't going to make it out of the water for the most part, and will be so stupidly diluted by the time it reaches anybody it'll barely be detectable over the radioisotopes that are already in water NATURALLY (i.e. Radon).
>>16273319
suffers from the same "there's way more water in the water supply than people think" dilution problem. we're well past the era where you could just poison a town with an amount of something a single person can carry around dumped into a well.
>>16272045
the alpha emitter also has to be readily soluble in water for two reasons - one, it needs to not settle/get filtered out, and two, it needs to be easy to incorporate into biological systems to actually do damage (your skin is a rather effective alpha barrier).
one of the helpful things about uranium is its common compounds aren't very soluble in water. the danger with cesium and iodine radioisotopes (nobody, afaik, is shipping these in bulk quantities for any reason whatsoever) is how water-soluble they are.
even if this was literally stolen nuclear fuel, it's not likely to be very water soluble.
>>16272026
it would require something like a tanker trucks' worth of pure water-soluble radioisotope (would actually take multiple tanker trucks; radiation shielding is most of the volume and mass of radioisotopes in transit by far, with the possible exception of nuclear fuel by mass (but not volume, afaik), which is low activity and extremely heavy by itself), CONTINUOUSLY SUPPLIED. would also need insertion directly into the water main AFTER the treatment plant... and just hope there's only one of these in the entire city.
we're talking "build a whole additional supply pipe just to inject radioisotopes into the water." you'd probably irradiate more people with a dirty bomb.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 00:35:40 UTC No. 16273496
>>16269031
Like shitposting on /b/ - minimal effect.
bodhi at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 01:33:01 UTC No. 16273554
>>16273422
I didnt say it would kill the entire country strawmanning faggot but you were trying to present the notion that it would be no big deal
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 01:38:01 UTC No. 16273559
>>16273422
>>16273554
So just how much damage can someone cause with as much radioactive material as they can carry in their pocket? (I swear to god I am not the robber I'm just curious)
Not FBI at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 01:38:16 UTC No. 16273560
Please continue this discussion
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 01:42:38 UTC No. 16273566
>>16271993
Planning recruit in Spanish Foreign Legion?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 06:43:48 UTC No. 16273808
>>16269031
listen here glowie, i don't wanna be a glowie
>>16269038
have we started the meltdown
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 10:59:50 UTC No. 16273982
>>16273554
he didn't say country, he said city, illiterate strawmanning faggot.
it might kill a few people, sure, but FFS your literal phrasing was "wipe an entire city"
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:01:18 UTC No. 16273985
>>16273982
*the literal, not "your literal," sorry
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 17:37:20 UTC No. 16274479
>>16269031
if they wanted hypothetically to wipe a city, then they would put toxins/poisons in a water supply. If they irradiate water, it will increase the chance of the city people getting cancer. However it's a very slow process. If one wanted to inflict a lot of damage, you could just spray carfentanyl over a city, for example.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 17:56:13 UTC No. 16274531
>>16274479
>just source enough carfentanyl to cover an entire city bro
would be easier to nuke it by this point
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:18:48 UTC No. 16274577
>>16274531
Carfent was just an example you dysgenic mutt. Ordinary fentanyl is lethal at 2 mg, and carfent is supposedly 100 times stronger than that. New York City has a population of about 18.8 million last time I checked. Assuming that carfent's lethal dose is 2 mg (overkill), then 37.6 kg of carfent is potent enough to completely wipe out the biggest city in the USA. You drop fent or carfent tablets in a city's water supply? Everyone that drinks the city water will be dead. You wouldn't even have to spray it.
>just build a nuke bro
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to construct explosive lenses for a nuke? Do you have any idea how difficult isotope separation is? It's even harder to do that shit in a clandestine manner. On the other hand, you could cook up fent in an abandoned warehouse if you wanted to.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:25:13 UTC No. 16274586
>>16274577
dont think this would happen realistically because of dilution but yeah maybe it would cause a lot of damage
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:09:56 UTC No. 16275318
>>16274586
>maybe it would cause a lot of damage
For the sheer damage they cause, it's surprisingly easy for a dedicated terrorist cell to get their hands on WMDs. Given that the world has been slowly turning to shit more and more, I wouldn't be surprised if another Ted Kaczynski decided to pull the metaphorical trigger.