🧵 Irrefutable blackpill: Physics ended in the 20th century, Kardashev 1 is the limit
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:20:37 UTC No. 16271013
Ever since the 90s we already can model the ENTIRE UNIVERSE at every scale. The standard model of particle physics AND of cosmology lambda-CDM have only gotten even more perfect and irrefutable, the two together describe EVERYTHING in existence.
There's NOTHING left to discover, the only things left are engineering problems - The quark scale and the observable universe are our limits and the latter will only become even more accessible as the universe expands, and we already understand everything at every scale.
There's nothing new to find out there, there's no new forces no new laws no new particles no aliens no other dimensions no new technologies to develop no other universes and no unknown phenomenons.
String theory, quantum mechanics, eternal inflation, CCC, supersymmetry, changing constants, parallel universes, fifth force, aliens, branes, m-theory, non-equilibrium thermodynamics, what came before the BB, hubble tension, higgs field, negative energy, casimir effect, chaos theory, consciousness, grand unified theory, telescopes, wolfram physics, closed timelike curves, universe's size, anti gravity, functional information, quantum gravity, plasma, time crystals, entanglement, quantum tunneling, AI, MOND, quantized inertia, ToE, fine tuning, quintessence, entropic gravity, wormholes, naked singularities, multiverse, holography, warp drives, solitons, particle colliders, QFT, etc. All of theoretical physics is a BS waste of time, there's NOTHING left to find or invent, we hit a brick wall, we'll never advance past K1 period let alone survive once the Cosmological Constant expands everything out of reach
The fact we don't see aliens proves FTL is impossible, colonizing space is impossible, and Kardashev civilizations are impossible. We're gonna be inexorably stuck in this solar system until the Cosmological Constant ends everything, it's over...
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:32:31 UTC No. 16271024
>>16271013
this is the same thing they were saying in the bronze age with their mythologies.
there is so much we do not know about the universe. the fact that general physics and quantum mechanics dont make sense together (yet) is proof of that. let alone other cosmological things.
we dont know what we dont know.
Stop guessing start learning at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:43:18 UTC No. 16271028
>>16271013
> There's NOTHING left to discover, the only things left are engineering problems
Bullshit anon we haven’t even been to another planet or left even the solar system or even dug far into the earth. Yet there’s nothing to discover?
Take your science denial somewhere else there’s plenty to explore.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:41:27 UTC No. 16271039
>>16271024
>this is the same thing they were saying in the bronze age with their mythologies.
literally no they werent
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:08:41 UTC No. 16271060
>>16271028
>tries to refute that only engineering problems are left
>only describes engineering problems
Lmao you just proved his point
Stop guessing start learning at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:15:15 UTC No. 16271062
>>16271060
Explain faggot besides using the laughing tactic
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:23:12 UTC No. 16271067
>>16271013
science is still yet to discover dimensions and energy. When it does that’s when we’ll have things like time/space travel and teleportation
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 12:40:20 UTC No. 16271423
>>16271013
>at every scale
This is literally untrue, we have no idea about what goes on below the planck limit
>hurr physics break down here
YOUR CURRENT physics, dipshit. Come up with better physics, it's not rocket science
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 13:17:19 UTC No. 16271456
>The standard model of particle physics AND of cosmology lambda-CDM have only gotten even more perfect and irrefutable, the two together describe EVERYTHING in existence.
Except you know, Gravity. Even if you include GR as part of "cosmology" there is an inescapable gap between the physics of the cosmos and particle physics. There is no particle physics description gravity. How does gravity operate on the quantum scale? Unexplained. How does particle physics work in strongly curved spacetime? Unexplained.
And you say it's perfect but between these models there is no description of what dark matter is. Or how a cosmological constant is consistent with particle physics, the naive calculation for the cosmological constant starting from QFT is 100 orders of magnitude bigger than the cosmologically measured value.
So no. These models aren't even a complete description of themselves, much everything for all time.
There are also genuine failures today. For example the standard model of particle physics today says neutrinos have zero mass. If we're true they wouldn't oscillate.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 14:23:43 UTC No. 16271506
>>16271013
Nah, reckon yer wrong. You just lack scale of judgement. Lack of strategic comparison.
Right now we are really not that much different from cavemen. Opposable thumbs, fire, and language. That's what gets us to reason and communication, information manipulation, and onto where the Universe appears so complicated. A zoo of elementary particles. Irrational numbers, Limits to observation.
Its works for our purposes. But the Universe is probably fundamentally simple and precise, not complex and obtuse. The problem is we just dont possess the conceptual framework to understand it in simple terms. Give it another few hundred thousand years of evolution and our brains might have evolved enough to get to the next level. The next level human descendants will regard us as not so much different from fish.
Lol, but you just cant grasp this can you? Nor can the rest of you dullards.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:32:00 UTC No. 16272082
>>16271013
"part of me wonders whether research on race and intelligence—given the persistence of racism in the U.S. and elsewhere—should simply be banned."
-John Horgan [1]
1. https://www.scientificamerican.com/
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:40:56 UTC No. 16272099
>>16271013
>John Horgan
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:46:44 UTC No. 16272108
Shining whitepill counter: The universe is constantly ticking up in total energy content. If this can be harvested somehow anything becomes possible.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 23:24:36 UTC No. 16272158
>>16271062
An engineering problem is a question how to apply solved science to reach a certain physical effect. Getting to another planet is an engineering problem as to get there we need to apply our understanding of physics and create a spaceship. Once we are there we would discover a new planet but there wouldn't be any new laws of physics to discover. Thus the actual science is finished.
In contraat unsolved scientific questions can be found in biology, medicine and neurology as our understanding of how the brain and the body works are yet incomplete. If you were to discover the mechanisms by which personality is formed in the brain you would have solved one if these. The engineering challenges afterwards would be how to apply this new understanding to heal personality disorders, for example.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 23:36:30 UTC No. 16272173
>>16271506
>Give it another few hundred thousand years of evolution and our brains might have evolved enough to get to the next level
here's blackpill unrelated to OP:
theres scientific data showing our brains are slowly regressing (probably because our lives became too easy)
theres no evolutionary pressure for better cognitive ability, often it's opposite for those most gifted
unless we go hardcore into gene modding (and quite quick) it will be over no matter how much left there is to discover
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:00:54 UTC No. 16272197
>>16271013
Based. Fuck grifting science hacks.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:01:21 UTC No. 16272198
>>16272173
The effect you describe (reverse flynn effect) is due to lower intelligence people having more children on average. Selection pressures with time, however, or can be changed by humans artificially. It’s not that much of a blackpill, just start gene editing or eugenics already.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:08:31 UTC No. 16272210
>>16272198
>It’s not that much of a blackpill, just start gene editing or eugenics already.
Never going to happen because of politics.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:13:05 UTC No. 16272214
>>16272210
There will be a selection effect on societies. The ones that cultivate intelligence will dominate those that don’t since war capability and economy are highly dependant on the fruits of intelligent people.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:20:34 UTC No. 16272220
>>16271013
>the two together describe EVERYTHING in existence
That's the problem
There shouldn't be two
There should be one theory.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:28:04 UTC No. 16272227
>>16271013
theory of everything is stll out there
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:32:54 UTC No. 16272240
>>16271013
i lvoe you dude this made me alaugh so hard
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:34:43 UTC No. 16272245
>>16272227
Maybe there isn't one
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:34:49 UTC No. 16272246
>>16271423
>Come up with better physics, it's not rocket science
kekian
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 00:41:13 UTC No. 16272256
>>16272245
defeatist bullshit. we're just waiting for the next Einstein. last time it took 228 years
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 05:53:30 UTC No. 16272520
>>16272198
>just start gene editing or eugenics already
at some point we wont be smart enough anymore to figure out how to
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 05:57:35 UTC No. 16272522
>>16272520
the Chinese are the least likely to care about pretentious moral bullshit so they are likely the last hope for the survival of intelligence through gene editing. hopefully they make it, even if they have to do it in private
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 18:03:49 UTC No. 16273035
>>16271013
>we already can model the ENTIRE UNIVERSE at every scale.... cosmology lambda-CDM have only gotten even more perfect and irrefutable
JWST has refuted lambda-CDM already, so you're wrong.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 18:55:59 UTC No. 16273079
>>16271013
physics just started, faggot
and people were saying bullshit like yours every century
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 19:08:00 UTC No. 16273087
>>16271013
>We're gonna be inexorably stuck in this solar system until the Cosmological Constant ends everything, it's over...
Humans observing reality and making records has been going on for tens of thousands of years and the sun will not blow for billions of years. Unless every record is falsified and the blackpilled hedonist niggers totally gimp us for literally billions of years you're being presumptuous.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 19:08:57 UTC No. 16273088
>>16272522
and, because they lack this "pretentious moral bullshit", their communist overlords will happily CRISPR future generations into soulless biological automatons. how's that for survival?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 00:20:05 UTC No. 16273460
>>16271013
>>16272173
I too have watched Evangelion, yes.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 00:28:41 UTC No. 16273479
"Enjoy your future, it's gonna be great!"
>genetic entropy
>reverse flynn effect
>ozone depletion
>energy exhaustion
>mantle cooling
>geomagnetic weakening
>tikkun-olam
>carrington event
>solar luminosity
>the great filter
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:06:02 UTC No. 16275105
>>16271024
There are physical laws such as E=MC^2 that can't be broken. Traversing the galaxy at a meaningful speed is impossible.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:01:26 UTC No. 16275460
>>16275105
worm holes
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:05:21 UTC No. 16275466
You're retarded
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:14:51 UTC No. 16275480
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:50:39 UTC No. 16276393
>>16271013
...let me guess, your conclusion to all this is that we should just get high and jerk it to gay porn or something? Fuck off
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:20:01 UTC No. 16276743
>>16271013
>The fact we don't see aliens proves FTL is impossible, colonizing space is impossible, and Kardashev civilizations are impossible
You should of realized this when the universe expands faster than light itself, how in the living fuck did you think you're gonna travel a huge spacious universe filled with many things that can kill us? Fuck that, the aliens are probably doing drugs and fuck shit like rest of us.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:21:03 UTC No. 16276744
>>16276393
yes
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:59:20 UTC No. 16276878
>>16275105
E=MC^2 is an equation that we invented to describe what usually appears to happen. We don't know if it is a true immutable law, just because we have not seen any way to violate it, does not mean it can't be violated. I for one don't hold much respect for the number we call energy, the fact that energy is relative to the observer rather than an intrinsic property of an object does not give me confidence in the concept.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:22:44 UTC No. 16276888
You don't know what you don't know.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:39:41 UTC No. 16276900
>>16271028
>we haven’t even been to another planet
there is nothing on other planets but sand and/or ice. we already have plenty of both here on earth. why bother?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:51:51 UTC No. 16277198
>>16276888
no one knows anything, so how do we know what's real or not?
Barkon Approved Post at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:03:27 UTC No. 16277212
>>16276900
You got nothing truthfully.
Even if you are to hell me, it will be cheap and I'll still be able to act.
Your lucky for memory loss, if I got a quick flashback I could do you now.
Don't lie I'm the center of attention.
Who cares about these people you claim to have socially destroyed.
You are fucked truly if I have a flashback, I've got plenty of time.
Because of my intelligence I'm guaranteed a good future.
In the unlikely case you do win, I'll get my revenge for sure.
You and these other people are shit.
Barkon Approved Post at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:04:50 UTC No. 16277215
>>16277212
It's basically the primal era in your minds. Lol. You are really shit trust me. And wicked. Stuck up in your wicked shittery.
Barkon Approved Post at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:07:50 UTC No. 16277219
You are complete shit trust me. 'doing people socially' so people can chant their opinion wooohooooo. Trust me I'll fuck you all
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:11:16 UTC No. 16277317
>>16271013
Nah it's just the glowies holding everything back and either recruiting or ACKing any scientist that makes significant development in the field.
You have dump your "breakthrough" research all over the internet first if you truly want the world to benefit from it.