Stop guessing start learning at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 17:15:16 UTC No. 16274422

>>16274376
If you reproduce and have kids you will live forever

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:45:39 UTC No. 16274978

Schizo 1 and schizo 2

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:45:09 UTC No. 16275065

>>16274376
you don't
but you can feed an AI with your biometrics, speech patterns, chats and 4chin posts, so your boyfriend can talk with your digital ghost after your untimely death

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:48:48 UTC No. 16275074

tranny thread

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:50:23 UTC No. 16275077

>>16275074
Rent. Free.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:00:30 UTC No. 16275095

>>16275077
he's not wrong, it's a transhumanism thread

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:06:03 UTC No. 16275106

>>16275095
>transhumanism
What's your opinion on glasses

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:16:59 UTC No. 16275124

>>16275106
nta but i have a bad feeling about transhumanism, and want to see where this goes.
glasses good

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:35:05 UTC No. 16275156

>>16275095
I've always wondered why /sci/ thinks transhumanism is cool yet hates the only real example of it?

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:38:51 UTC No. 16275163

>>16274376
Why do you want your spirit in a machine. Humans will eventually evolve past the need for a body. A machine would probably be worse than a body. Bodies heal, machines don’t

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:40:55 UTC No. 16275167

>>16275156
Soon, we will be able to do what only God could before: Change your look, change your sex, change your race. It’s yours to change. Nobody else's.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:41:25 UTC No. 16275169

>>16275106
glasses work, transferring yourself into a computer doesn't
>>16275156
not hating it, just pointing out it's scifi. if someone asks how to make a warpdrive, they get the same answer. doesn't mean I hate trekkies

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:42:48 UTC No. 16275171

>>16275169
It is possible, it's just the power needed to do it requires the power of a star. This isn't a failure of it being impossible, just not practical at this time.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:45:02 UTC No. 16275175

>>16275169
We still don't know what consciousness is but you're going to have a hard stance on what can or can't be done to it?

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:50:42 UTC No. 16275189

>>16275156
i find it funny how people get obsessed with transcending our limitations and all this sort of shit during periods of technological regression

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:01:37 UTC No. 16275206

>>16275171
>its not scifi, we just need to develope some scifi tech to do it
>>16275175
thats exactly the reason I say it can't be done with our current understanding. if we don't know what consciousness is and how it works, how could you ever hope to remove it from a meatbody and transfer it to a machine?

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:02:38 UTC No. 16275207

>>16275171
>its not scifi, we just need to develope some scifi tech to do it
>>16275175
thats exactly the reason I say it can't be done with our current understanding. if we don't know what consciousness is and how it works, how could you ever hope to remove it from a meatbody and transfer it to a machine?>>16275175

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:07:33 UTC No. 16275214

>>16275206
>how could you ever hope to remove it from a meatbody and transfer it to a machine?
by learning what consciousness is and how it works. you're just encouraging people to pursue transhumanism by presenting technical problems.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:10:45 UTC No. 16275224

>>16275206
>we don't know what consciousness is and how it works
Feedback loop built from the neurotransmitter level up in an organic computer not only interpreting the world through the imprecise filter of emotional response and fed by physically limited senses, but also factoring it's own internal dialogue into the mix (the"self") on top of that. Additionally, it relies on a memory system that's more associative than explicit.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:27:13 UTC No. 16275247

>>16275214
ok, wake me up when you get anywhere
>>16275224
you're describing how the neural system works on superficial level. we don't know how the neurochemistry translates to a self aware entity. it doesn't help much for being able to simulate that with an electronic system, let alone transfer it from a biological to a digital one

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:28:09 UTC No. 16275252

>>16275224
>Consciousness is consciousness
That's not how neurotransmitterS work anon. Everything your said is either a massive generalization or misunderstood assumptions.
>Organic computer
The brain is more complex than any artificial computer, with dynamic processes that go beyond simple computational models.
>Feedback loop
Feedback into what system? There isn't one we can find.
>interpretation through emotional response
Projection
>physically limited senses
You're just describing awareness, which any animal with senory adaptations have, not conciousness, the inner self that can think about thinking
>Memory system that's more associative than explicit
Yet we have both regardless. explicit memory (the ability to consciously recall information) is also a critical component of our memory system.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:31:32 UTC No. 16275257

>>16275207
The "scifi" tech you're describing is literally a fusion reactor that has been provably becoming more efficient and feasible with every test we've done. Anon just admit you're pushing a subjective opinion as dogmatic fact.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:32:39 UTC No. 16275259

>>16275189
what are you fucking smoking and where can I get some? We are the most technologically advanced we have ever been and there's no signs of it slowing down.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:39:20 UTC No. 16275269

>>16274376
Are you people really serious when they say they don't want to live forever? You have literally one chance in life why would you not be curious to learn how all of it works.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:41:55 UTC No. 16275272

>>16275257
how does a fusion reactor help you transfer yourself into a computer?
also
>10more years

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:56:21 UTC No. 16275298

>>16275272
We were talking about the warp drive my guy. Also quit sniffing Academic nutsack's who are trying to get their grants approved. It will be finished when it will be finished. The point is that it's possible and not scifi technology. You're being intentionally obtuse and churlish.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:19:21 UTC No. 16275405

>>16275298
ah, didn't get you were talking about the warp drive. so how do you go from fusion reactor to warp drive?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:31:28 UTC No. 16275422

>>16274376
the "spirit" isn't any more real than a bunch of electrons in various chemicals, not even machines can truly be immortal, but some shit like Elon's neuralink gaslighting will eventually let you transfer consciousness to a longer-lived machine, if it isn't just more practical to nano-remodel the biological one by then.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:49:07 UTC No. 16275441

>>16275422
>can the spirit be explained through physical phenomenon
>yes
then its real you dumb sack of chemical interactions

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:06:44 UTC No. 16275470

>>16274376
Just wait two more weeks bro we'll figure it out through AI modeling

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:52:14 UTC No. 16276164

>>16274376
What makes you think that will still be you?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:26:57 UTC No. 16276562

>>16275247
>we don't know how the neurochemistry translates to a self aware entity
>>16275252
>The brain is more complex than any artificial computer, with dynamic processes that go beyond simple computational models.
Philosophical masturbation by the same guys who thought that a computer would never create pretty pictures, writing or music on its own...probably the same clowns looking to Penrose for his magic microtubules.

Simply put, the brain is an organic substrate for a yet-to-be-understood algorithm. We'll sequence it in this century the same way we sequenced the genome in the last.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:39:47 UTC No. 16276583

>>16274376
You can't transfer it. But if you document your life actively on Facebook, upload videos of yourself, etc. then an AI-powered robo-golem of you can be created in a decade or so.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:06:50 UTC No. 16276626

>>16274376
you will need a spirit guide to teach you
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pfsUgtL9A

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:45:13 UTC No. 16276908

>>16274422
That's one of the biggest copes I've ever heard. First of all you have no idea if your kids will have kids so that "immortality" might amount to a whooping 60 years or so. Second, obviously they are not you, you will die anyway. Third, even if your kids will have kids etc. there will be a moment in the history when all this shithole will go down, all it takes is a really large stone, but there are plenty of other more impossible to deal with cosmic dangers.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:59:19 UTC No. 16277131

>>16275257
>when I said the power of a star, I didn't actually mean the power of the entire star, I just meant power produced in a similar manner as a star
Fuck off you disingenuous retard.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:01:16 UTC No. 16277134

>>16275298
>it's possible and not scifi technology.
Scifi technology is precisely the the things that are scientifically feasible, but not actually real.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:15:13 UTC No. 16277273

>>16276562
it doesn't you clown it just copies what already exists.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:17:30 UTC No. 16277276

>>16277134
like computers that can write original poetry

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:55:17 UTC No. 16277305

>>16275247
>ok, wake me up when you get anywhere
i'm not going to pursue that because it's not a good idea, that's the point. you're just saying what you already said.
a good way to provoke people into doing something is to claim it's impossible, it's the same as "you won't do shit".
even if you think "it's genuinely impossible so it doesn't matter whether people pursue it or not",

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