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Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:38:09 UTC No. 16275361
women have 20% fewer neurons than men, that means they have 20% lower IQ than men
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:43:40 UTC No. 16275366
>>16275361
While I grant your general point, it may not be a linear relationship.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:47:12 UTC No. 16275373
>>16275366
why?
it’s obviously linear due to limited 3d space which limits the connections between neurons at the same proportion for a brain of any size.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:59:09 UTC No. 16275388
>>16275373
>why?
Well, are we assuming that 0 neurons means and IQ of exactly zero?
It seems to me that a creature could have quite a few neurons, but still have an IQ of about zero.
So maybe you instead say it's linear, but the y-axis crossing is not at zero. That means we would need negative numbers of neurons to get to zero IQ, but that's impossible.
Basically I'm saying that women might be only 5% lower than men, on average, despite having 20% fewer neurons.
(Alternatively, having 20% fewer might mean their IQ's are only half ours.)
What I was granting is that I agree that having fewer neurons probably does mean they are less intelligent. Unfortunately, academia refuses to test IQs after adolescence—probably because when they do, they keep finding that men ultimately grow up to be smarter than women.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:59:11 UTC No. 16275513
>>16275361
That's great and all, but in the real world men tend to only score 18 points higher on the SAT verses women, which is a 2.3% difference.
The neuronal cell-count issue probably has to do with women having fewer total cells verses men, and men have more muscle than women (which requires direct neuronal integration into the brain), and women have more adipose cells which aren't integrated into the brain.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:21:39 UTC No. 16275800
>>16275373
>>16275361
There are animals with larger brains and more neurons than humans. None of them are smarter because the composition and organisation of said brain matter plus body-to-brain ratio is just as important as total neuron count.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:31:41 UTC No. 16275804
>>16275800
They are smarter than YOU though
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:36:59 UTC No. 16275810
>>16275804
That’s besides the point!!!
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:11:08 UTC No. 16276082
>>16275513
The difference in real-world achievement is massive though.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:40:51 UTC No. 16276220
>>16276082
Thanks to the patriarchy.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:02:53 UTC No. 16276414
why don't you just look up the average IQ of a man and compare it to the average IQ of a woman? you can verify this empirically and skip any guesswork
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:57:42 UTC No. 16276517
>>16275513
>In the real world men tend to only score 18 points higher on the SAT
>Of course we don't test them after adulthood because it would show that men's IQs grow to be significantly higher.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:01:41 UTC No. 16277680
>>16275513
Well, judge intelligence by tests is stupid. Also men outperform women in their 20s but sat is done in whe they are 18yo(the Time when women are developed but boys aren't)
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:07:53 UTC No. 16278170
>>16275361
This makes roasties seethe
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 03:45:17 UTC No. 16279817
>>16276220
No, women are just stupid
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 20:12:59 UTC No. 16280594
>>16276220
if women are smart, how did "the patriarchy" ever come about to begin with?
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 20:29:07 UTC No. 16280630
>>16280594
It benefited roasties, because they were not required to work
Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 17:50:12 UTC No. 16281513
>>16275361
Small brain girls
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:27:19 UTC No. 16282923
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 04:56:44 UTC No. 16283175
>>16282923
Asian skull isn't asian but African
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:51:01 UTC No. 16285755
>>16275361
> where’s the STRONG proof that the neuron count correlates with IQ?
> where’s the STRONG proof that either correlates with intelligence?
> what the fuck is that “trend”?
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 05:33:18 UTC No. 16286054
>>16285755
It's correlated. Every smart animal has high neuron count in prefrontal lobes
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:46:38 UTC No. 16286389
>>16286054
fascinating
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 13:57:07 UTC No. 16287196
>>16286389
For women, yes
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 06:55:50 UTC No. 16288157
>>16275800
We are talking about the cortex here, not the brain on a global scale. Humans win out when we talk about the cortex neuron quantities:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar
> Owing to their large cortex volumes, their small neurons and high NPD, primates have many more cortical neurons than expected on the basis of absolute brain size. The relatively small New World squirrel monkey has 430 million, and the much larger Old World rhesus monkey about 480 million, the New World white-fronted capuchin 610 million, gorillas 4300 million, chimpanzees about 6200 million and humans about 15 000 million cortical neurons. The largest number of cortical neurons in non-primate mammals is found in the false killer whale with 10 500 million and the African elephant with 11 000 million, which is less than the number found in humans, despite the much larger brains of the former two. Herculano-Houzel et al.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 16:36:17 UTC No. 16288535
>>16280630
True, women actually enjoy having and taking care kids and socializing with other people all day instead of working all day. They had it better and they don't even realize it cuz brainwashing.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:06:03 UTC No. 16289158
>>16275361
How does the paper count neurons? The most accurate way to count neurons is to liquefy the brain, alequot a volume of the suspended cells, and count them under a microscope.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:52:25 UTC No. 16289389
>>16289158
Seems like the case
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:53:49 UTC No. 16289557
>>16275361
Surely neuron count and brain size is the magical solution to intelligence.
Uh. Why arent all scientists elephants and inuits?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:05:05 UTC No. 16289567
>>16289557
>Neocortex neurons
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 18:38:11 UTC No. 16289906
>>16284533
Haha
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 09:20:38 UTC No. 16290659
Smooth brains
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 19:07:11 UTC No. 16291183
>>16290659
This
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:33:23 UTC No. 16291934
>>16288134
Our hero
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:21:05 UTC No. 16291962
>>16280594
>if women are smart, how did "the patriarchy" ever come about to begin with?
physical overpowering
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 18:07:44 UTC No. 16292393
>>16291962
Superior brain>superior body. That's te reason niggers are enslaved
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 01:37:30 UTC No. 16292942
>>16275361
Women are 20% smaller than men.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 01:57:35 UTC No. 16292947
>>16288157
>Humans win out when we talk about the cortex neuron quantities:
No, humans are in 3rd place behind orcas and pilot whales.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 03:18:44 UTC No. 16293037
>>16292942
*15%
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 07:39:30 UTC No. 16293170
>>16292947
We should count prefrontal lobe. Humans have highest count of neurons in neocortex among all animals in the world, only surprassed by orcas. You could argue that orcas are dumber than humans, but you should take into consideration that neocortical neurons have a slightly different specification in brains of whales. Our speech is more premitive than speech of whales, and whales need more brain power and neurons to produce and percive speech. It's so premitive that even women who have smaller number of neurons in neocortex are better at it, because it requires less neuron count. Unlike with communication of whales
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:55:39 UTC No. 16293760
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 23:31:34 UTC No. 16294083
>>16275513
>men tend to only score 18 points higher on the SAT verses women
I don't know about the SAT in particular, but I do know that the IQ test is designed to make it so that men and women have equal scores on average. Something tells me that if there were radically different scores on the SAT, it would quickly be replaced.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 09:37:40 UTC No. 16294499
>>16294083
18 points is not radical
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 03:08:01 UTC No. 16295563
>>16288134
Our hope
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 11:00:10 UTC No. 16295889
>>16294083
>>16294499
Its a fairly consistent gap however. In fact "gender equality" and the percentage of women in stem are negatively correlated.
https://eprints.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/
https://sci-hub.se/https://www.scie
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 17:27:07 UTC No. 16296209
>>16295889
Women are subhumans
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 18:28:40 UTC No. 16296284
>>16275361
Except women sit pretty nicely at the midwit spectrum of IQ while men occupy the outer edges. So on average men and women have similar IQ but if you find somebody that's a totally fucking moron there's a high chance they're a man. Like you. Me? I'm on the genius side and like the other geniuses, I'm a man.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:00:22 UTC No. 16296607
>>16294499
>18 points is not radical
That's what I'm saying, if a test produced a gap larger than that it would immediately be thrown out as sexist. The conclusion that men and women are equally intelligent was reached before the tests were even designed.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:49:04 UTC No. 16297112
>>16296284
No, women are way dumber than everyone else
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:44:51 UTC No. 16297554
>>16284533
Women should not have rights for good
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 06:23:05 UTC No. 16298568
>>16275361
that's actually an insane number
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 07:56:09 UTC No. 16298624
>>16275361
we should make sperm whales our kings
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 18:13:40 UTC No. 16299215
>>16298624
>>16293170
Cope roastie
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 05:02:00 UTC No. 16299955
>>16298568
Of course
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:17:43 UTC No. 16300273
>>16299955
Of course what?
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:07:24 UTC No. 16300696
>>16300273
Of course fuck you
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 04:15:26 UTC No. 16301380
>>16296284
Tgey actually have worse performance in same conditions
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:47:30 UTC No. 16302080
>>16300696
Fuck u
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:28:20 UTC No. 16302148
>>16294083
The entire language reasoning section of IQ tests basically exists to give women a boost to IQ scores.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 05:50:11 UTC No. 16302859
>>16302148
Didn't original tests had them too?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 18:47:06 UTC No. 16303527
>>16275361
It's not true
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:35:40 UTC No. 16304551
>>16275361
Smalbrain sisters..
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:43:24 UTC No. 16304613
>>16275373
Saying it's obviously linear without any goddamn data is a sign of midwitism. You're not gonna make it.
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 16:44:41 UTC No. 16304739
>>16275366
True, they are even more retarded than that.
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 17:52:33 UTC No. 16304808
>>16275361
The size of the brain being related to IQ is something I literally learned in psychology 101. A bigger brain doesn't mean a smarter animal. What is more important is the size of the brain relative to the size of the animal. Blue whales have enormous brains, but they're enormous animals. More of the relative computational capacity is directly related to having to control their bodies and metabolic processes. Dolphins have much smaller brains, but they are far larger in terms of the ratio of brain size to animal size. Consequently, dolphins are much more intelligent than blue whales. Extrapolating this to humans, females might have 20% less neurons, but they're on average (assuming a woman at a healthy weight) more than 20% smaller than a healthy male.
The major differences in brain size and consequently IQ are well known between species. Not sure how it relates to intraspecies IQ, but it's likely that the smaller someone's body is while maintaining the same brain size, the higher capacity they have for IQ, barring all of the benefits that increased size give you such as better blood flow and nutrients delivery if you're in shape. Fatties have a dramatic and linear relationship with how much IQ they lose and how fat they are. Can this entirely be chalked up to nutrient deficiency from poor blood flow? Maybe. Their increased total body mass and same brain size probably plays a role that nobody has investigated yet.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 05:35:29 UTC No. 16305522
>>16304808
Colibri
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 05:54:19 UTC No. 16305538
>>16275361
WRONG, IDIOT
pay attention to the (inevitable) curves then think volumetrically
A denser cortical substrate means shorter distances and faster processing speeds
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 05:57:34 UTC No. 16305545
>>16296209
The list of categories where women can't compete is getting shorter all the time
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 12:58:15 UTC No. 16305793
>>16275388
This.
Also their favorite pets, blacks (oh and pajeets too) score a lot lower than, say , white males.
>and you need to go back and start accepting more and more white males into universities on scolarships
>if you want to succeed as civilization or as an US academia
>but naaaaahhh
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 13:02:50 UTC No. 16305796
>>16276082
>The difference in real-world achievement is massive though.
This. Basically, women's brain is designed to have family , children and for everyone to survive.
While as other anons mentioned, while women grow faster and are ready to have children at 18, bigger and more complicated male brain needs a lot more time to develop.
Technically brain grows and develops until you reach about 25-27.
>>16276517
>>16277680
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 13:06:34 UTC No. 16305798
>>16304808
Agree with the first paragraph. However:
>Extrapolating this to humans, females might have 20% less neurons, but they're on average (assuming a woman at a healthy weight) more than 20% smaller than a healthy male.
They aren't. The females have smaller brains and less neurons after considering body mass differences.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:35:58 UTC No. 16305875
>>16275361
I love it when people just draw random lines through point clouds and pretend they mran anything.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:08:30 UTC No. 16305903
My android girlfriend taught me Calculus
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 11:51:52 UTC No. 16306914
>>16305903
I have bad news for your brain size
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:51:37 UTC No. 16306981
Iq isn't about the amount of neurons.
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Aug 2024 06:54:32 UTC No. 16308203
>>16306981
It's highly about it
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Aug 2024 08:12:23 UTC No. 16308249
>>16275361
Women are way worse at spacial intelligence than men which is how most engineering is done and how new inventions are created.
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 02:02:16 UTC No. 16309217
>>16306981
Maybe. But there are only things men are better at. What are women better at?
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 02:28:48 UTC No. 16309254
We have absolutely no idea how the coding of neurons work or how they process information. Is are most neurons in your brain don't do anything at all and just produce noise. I highly doubt the brain is an effective computing machine.
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 16:09:17 UTC No. 16309866
>>16309254
It actually is
Anonymous at Mon, 5 Aug 2024 10:23:22 UTC No. 16310760
>>16305538
>Proving claim
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 06:57:39 UTC No. 16311892
>>16309254
>Is are most neurons in your brain don't do anything at all and just produce noise
who told you this
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 07:05:48 UTC No. 16311906
>>16275361
richard haier' research suggests they may have more efficient brains
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 03:14:10 UTC No. 16312952
>>16311906
Because we always should bootlick women
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 03:19:21 UTC No. 16312961
>>16275361
It's not the size that counts, but how you use it
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 04:50:07 UTC No. 16313032
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 18:57:26 UTC No. 16313867
>>16312961
Still men are better
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 19:00:26 UTC No. 16313875
>>16275361
Wow, epic sciencing right there OP! Feminists btfo! Here's your nobel prize! God bless /pol/ science!
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 00:05:14 UTC No. 16314369
>>16311906
Interesting that a man came up with that conclusion.
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 19:13:22 UTC No. 16315504
>>16313875
Roastie
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 19:19:13 UTC No. 16315508
>>16315504
Foreskinlet
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 19:34:31 UTC No. 16315524
>>16315508
? I'm not Jewish or mudslim. But you need some treatment roastie
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 22:44:42 UTC No. 16315745
>>16313875
lol
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 12:32:21 UTC No. 16316684
>>16279817
can you prove that? No you can't. But the patriarchy has existed for billions of years. You are an incel and no woman will ever want to touch your small dick.
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 12:34:54 UTC No. 16316685
>>16295889
>"gender equality" and the percentage of women in stem are negatively correlated.
That doesn't even make any sense. You're citing some pseudoscientific paper sponsored by prager u
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 13:00:20 UTC No. 16316730
>>16315745
>>16316684
>>16316685
Same roastie/cuck seethe
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 13:03:32 UTC No. 16316735
>>16305875
>love it when people just draw random lines through point clouds and pretend they mran anything.
This is the smartest comment I've seen. However I want to remark a misconception when talking about neurons and intelligence: Intelligence is an emergent feature of the brain as it does not depend on the number of neurons but the conections between them. Thus, having less neurons (if that's really the case) may favour kinds of intelligence where these conplex conections are key in the process of though, as the intuitive thinking. Nevertheless, it is important not to forget that a bigger number of neurons may allow more complex rational processes as more specific undertanding of complex processes is possible, where such processes are not involved on the daily routine but specific neurons may be need to "store" that kind of information, an example may be the engine functioning.
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 15:31:16 UTC No. 16317039
>>16275361
Women have smaller prefrontal cortex so they are less capable of taking decisions. Look at the forehead of women, it is moon shaped. Men have it rectangular.
So it is obvious that women need to be followers of men and women should not be allowed to vote.
gesa at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 23:20:29 UTC No. 16317799
non sequitor
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 11:10:18 UTC No. 16318452
>>16317039
Nice post
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 19:58:51 UTC No. 16319046
>>16314369
*Cuck
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 20:02:08 UTC No. 16319053
>>16275361
Is there a correlation between the number of neurons a brain can have and IQ? Is there a study for this?
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 21:13:24 UTC No. 16319145
>>16275800
Are you saying women are a separate species?
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 23:23:47 UTC No. 16319300
>>16306981
iq correlates .6 with grey matter
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 23:24:18 UTC No. 16319301
>>16319300
actually .3
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 23:42:27 UTC No. 16319317
>>16275361
There is a non-uniformity in dominant tasks between the sexes, e.g., greater spatial reasoning in males and greater verbal ability in females. Whether males or females have higher IQ depends entirely on how these tasks are weighted in the sum. One explanation for the differences in neurone counts is that the male-dominant tasks may require more neurones, though I'm not sure if there's been any studies looking into that hypothesis, but it sounds to be the more plausible explanation. The other is simply that female brains are more efficiently wired due to the space-constraint.
OP's graph is for neocortical neurones, but as others in the thread have pointed out, the global difference in the neural counts of the sexes is related to muscule coordination; and the relationship is not linear.
Raphael at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 04:49:36 UTC No. 16319519
>>16319053
If this were true ADHD kids would be smart as shit they’re born with extra neurons
Raphael at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 04:51:52 UTC No. 16319524
>>16304808
How are you fat and have a nutrition deficiency, you have to be one stupid mother fucker to do that