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Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:16:01 UTC No. 16277707
Is it possible to even refute this?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:30:58 UTC No. 16277815
>>16277707
LMAO, only animals get affected by such nonsense.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:38:18 UTC No. 16277825
>>16277707
If you believe the first paragraph, then "rjsing above" and "focusing on science" is just succumbing to a different series of chemical reactions.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:38:39 UTC No. 16277826
>>16277707
So when you love your same sex parent you want to breed them?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:55:01 UTC No. 16277853
>>16277826
You don't?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:01:13 UTC No. 16277857
>>16277707
Great, then don't breed, nobody is forcing you. I agree with the statement, in fact I think that's excellent. That's what beta males should do, because beta males are worthless. Only the alpha males should be allowed to reproduce. Mankind will be better of without your genetic lineage. This is as nature intended, the losers got to go and the winners remain - they'll find good women and their offspring will be the future.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:02:15 UTC No. 16277858
>>16277707
Social groupings go much deeper than brain chemicals. It's really integral to our consciousness to procreate just like all life is compelled to procreate. This sentiment has only become somewhat popular because there are so many humans, and we are so heavily connected via the internet.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:09:33 UTC No. 16277971
Why is the marriage failing?
Why is "focusing on science" considered "rising above" human relationships?
Does advancement of science not rely on social structure and civilization?
It's an incomplete whine of a thought. Take yourself out of the gene pool like the loser you are, fine. Don't think anyone's gonna buy your claims of moral superiority over it.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:24:29 UTC No. 16277983
>>16277707
Now imagine ol' Justin Roiland coming up with this impressive sophistry while giving his girlfriend Irish sunglasses.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:21:30 UTC No. 16278340
>>16277707
It would be good but it had the
>focus on science
which shows lack of awareness that in the same way love is just dopamine hit, any morals or duty you perceive through "focusing on science" falls in the same category
whoever made that is ultimately an incel trying to deflect
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:39:28 UTC No. 16278357
>>16277707
>Is it possible to even refute this?
yes, it's obviously confusing "love" with "lust"
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:01:33 UTC No. 16278431
>>16277815
So next time I find two dogs having a fuck in the yard, I can just explain this to them instead of hosing them down and chucking a flip flop at them?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:04:35 UTC No. 16278436
>>16277825
Not a destructive cyclical trap, though, a steady progression of new knowledge and novel technology instead of constantly falling in and out of love over and over.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:42:27 UTC No. 16278601
>>16278436
This is a cyclical trap of gratification seeking
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:46:49 UTC No. 16278606
>>16278601
No, it is a progression through increasingly functional technology rather than doing the same thing over and over again.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:47:26 UTC No. 16278747
>>16277707
why would you focus on science when science is also just a chemical reaction in your brain
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:51:09 UTC No. 16278752
>>16278436
>instead of constantly falling in and out of love over and over
Me and my wife fell in love once, 10 years ago. When does the "cyclical" part kick in?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:03:19 UTC No. 16278767
>>16278436
What's so great about discovery? What you call "a steady progression of new knowledge and novel technology", I call the rape of the natural world.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:03:49 UTC No. 16278768
>>16277825
This is the biggest “I’m smart” meme posted here
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:08:01 UTC No. 16278774
>>16278747
Because science makes you $$$$
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:14:31 UTC No. 16278784
>>16278768
Seething determinist without a rebuttal detected.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:35:27 UTC No. 16278881
>>16278752
Damn, whole 10 years, never heard about a marriage falling apart after 10 years.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:17:21 UTC No. 16278927
>>16277707
Any claim by any atheist is trivial to rebuke. animals have sex once per year and they only do it for procreation, contrary to women who are sex addicts and always in heat.
Don't forget that according to atheists, sex is the only ting in common between humans and animals, and animals fuck all the time. This is completely false.
The truth is that animals don't value sex and it is female humans who are inherently sluts...
Atheists deny the truth because they want to pin their degeneracy on ''uncontrollable irrepressible biological urges'' so that they avoid being guilty of degeneracy.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:50:36 UTC No. 16278959
>>16277707
>if its a chemical reaction then its value is diminished
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:52:26 UTC No. 16278964
>>16278881
10 steady years of love and commitment cannot be characterised as "constantly falling in and out of love over and over" even if it came to an end tomorrow.
Not everyone subjects themselves to an endless series of doomed relationships built on foundations of sand.
There still exist couples who understand that a lasting relationship requires sacrifice and tolerance of difficult circumstances.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:57:11 UTC No. 16278974
>>16277707
No you can love things other than people like your country, music, nature, animals, and God without wanting to fuck them.
Your urge to breed might fade as you get older but your love is likely not to.
🗑️ Barkon Approved Post at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:00:08 UTC No. 16278976
>>16278974
Toche
🗑️ Barkon Approved Post at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:07:03 UTC No. 16278987
>>16278976
I swear on my son's Barkon, Vard and Worl's lifes that it was set up since sleep.
Touche touche.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:35:15 UTC No. 16279021
Note to self is not dysgenics
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 01:21:49 UTC No. 16279676
>>16277707
Yes, everything is worthless. Life has no inherent meaning. Kill yourself and get it out of the way and leave the rest of us be.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 01:25:59 UTC No. 16279678
>>16278768
It's not an "I'm smart" meme, it's a "you're dumb" meme.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 03:46:59 UTC No. 16279820
>>16277707
> love is chemicals in brain
> desire is just chemicals
> ambition is just chemicals
> suffering is just chemicals
> happiness is just chemicals
> death is just chemicals
Anon, we can all go into the materialist rabbit hole like this. Fucking Epicurus would shake his head at how shallow your evaluation of love and other human desires are.
Remember that human meaning is, while subjective and biased, also very powerful. A dried up giant squid on a beach or preserved in formalin studied by scientists would never reach the glory that painters or worshippers of kraken once saw in the beast. The scientists saw an organism to be studied, the painters saw a marvellous, terrifying, pulsating beast whose very appearance rattled their bones and made their mouths turn gibberish. This was human meaning given to a biological creature, and was significant in their lives. You too have such meaning in your life, and it cannot be captured by any arrangement of atoms in the universe.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:13:27 UTC No. 16280057
>>16279820
It seems like it was intended that way, it is chemicals but those chemicals were put in place for a reason, no? Things like this existing does question so much of the human experience.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:23:08 UTC No. 16280073
>>16277971
I can only assume his life advice to morty is "follow the path of science because it will be a bigger benefit to humanity than a personal relationship will be"
aka "increase the net positive of the world's livelihood instead of your own"
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 17:03:34 UTC No. 16280376
>>16277707
The answer is arranged marriage.
There is no love in arranged marriage.
Yet arranged marriages are more stable than voluntary marriages.
Arranged marriage fulfills your human needs, society's needs, and maintains social balance.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 19:17:43 UTC No. 16280540
>>16277857
please breed my virgin boyhole, anon. uWu
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 20:55:50 UTC No. 16280662
>>16277707
>gets no kids, because it's dumb and for animals only
>does science
>accumulates new knowledge that could be the stepping stone for even more knowledge
>nears the end of his life
>wants to pass the torch, so the search for knowledge can continue
>there is no one
>he dies
>science dies
sasuga Rick-sama
Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:54:01 UTC No. 16280894
>>16277825
YEs, but these chemical reactions won't leave you stranded in a failing marriage.
Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 07:22:39 UTC No. 16281094
>>16280894
It's okay. It'll just leave you failing in other aspects of your life.
Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 12:49:49 UTC No. 16281324
>>16280662
Rick could easily artificial lifeforms asexually
Garrote at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:22:54 UTC No. 16281338
This fella is disconsidering chemical reactions.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 06:03:40 UTC No. 16282056
>>16278752
>When does the "cyclical" part kick in?
When your wife wife fell in love with the next guy in line and the next and the next, etc.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 06:05:17 UTC No. 16282057
>>16278767
Then the natural world shouldn't have invented rape and made reality into a rape or be raped situation if it was so opposed to rape.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 06:12:04 UTC No. 16282062
>>16278927
>animals have sex once per year and they only do it for procreation
There are animal species like this, mostly bugs, but there are also plenty of animal species, including pretty much every species of great ape, that procreate year round.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conti
>Don't forget that according to atheists, sex is the only ting in common between humans and animals,
No, that is retarded, theists are the ones that think retarded shit like that, atheists tend to think people are animal species since they don't believe they are demigods that have been pulled apart from the animal kingdom by some miraculous deity.
>The truth is that animals don't value sex
Apes have wars over it, it is measurable used as currency with bonobos who regularly trade resources and services for sex.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 06:13:43 UTC No. 16282064
>>16278964
>Not everyone subjects themselves to an endless series of doomed relationships built on foundations of sand.
People chasing love instead of stability like you do which is the entire point of OP's post.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:30:48 UTC No. 16282265
>>16282064
>People chasing love instead of stability like you d
You're the one conflating love with lust/carnal desire my dude, not me.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:34:00 UTC No. 16282267
>>16282265
No, lust doesn't slowly fade, it hits hard and leaves hard.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:41:16 UTC No. 16282270
>>16278436
People having kids is necsessary if the civilization you rely on to make such discoveries is to survive, and if you're high IQ it's even more important for ofsetting dysgenics.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:41:43 UTC No. 16282272
>>16277825
Mickey has no alternative. He's a postmodernist jerkoff who destroys everything around him, takes up some hedonist will to power principle, and then eventually undermines himself. The scientific method is the best way of knowing we have. Causality is a fact. Philosophy is no more than the handmaiden to science.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:48:17 UTC No. 16282281
>>16282270
No, if you are high IQ, it would be much better to spend your time training other proven high IQ yet undeserved children than rolling the dice and making a tarded offspring that siphons off your time with its tarded needs.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:02:33 UTC No. 16282293
>>16282281
>high IQ yet undeserved children
Lmao
>than rolling the dice and making a tarded offspring
Intelligence is highly heritable, you might be "rolling the dice", but it's a biased one.
>that siphons off your time with its tarded needs.
That's what your wife is for, dummy.
But sure, tell high IQ people to not have kids, 70 IQ Africans are still going to, and you'll have to take care of them.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:16:48 UTC No. 16282301
>>16282293
>undeserved
Meant underserved and got autocorrected.
>Intelligence is highly heritable
Then why were einsteins kids and most famously high iq people's kids always so retarded?
>But sure, tell high IQ people to not have kid
Nobody is high iq enough to have definitively high iq children, though, they usually turn out stupid and then the mother turns them against the father.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:24:38 UTC No. 16282308
>>16282301
>Meant underserved
If you want to change this, then institute a more meritocratic school system that focuses on educating the tallanted instead of spending billions on programmes for underperformers.
>Then why were einsteins kids and most famously high iq people's kids always so retarded?
They weren't, they just didn't live up to their parents potential, most of them still end up with IQ's of 130+
>Nobody is high iq enough to have definitively high iq children, though
I don't see what your point is.
>then the mother turns them against the father.
???
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:05:23 UTC No. 16282388
>>16277707
Doing science is not a reason not to produce some bastards, especially since you're capable of doing science, thus your seed is blessed.
Succumbing to family (or even to living with a woman or whatever sex partner you're into) is not recommended though.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:10:08 UTC No. 16282392
>>16278768
The chemicals made you say that
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:13:24 UTC No. 16282397
>herp derp
You are ALL retards.
Yes, it's chemicals, but they're different chemical reactions, resulting in different effects, with contextual relevance to consciousness.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:21:33 UTC No. 16282409
>>16277707
It's not untrue necessarily but it is overly reductionist. Using his same argument, studying science is nothing more than chemical reactions in a brain, so it comes to a value judgment which is not something we can objective measure or quantify. If nothing matters because its illusory, then theres no reason to prefer one over the other. Love is just neurochemical reactions, so is interest in studying science.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:22:26 UTC No. 16282414
>>16282409
Fags you don't even know
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:42:02 UTC No. 16282500
>>16277707
Fuck dogma let people do what they find meaningful (as long as it's a net positive from a humanitarian perspective)
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:31:48 UTC No. 16282931
>>16282500
>as long as it's a net positive from a humanitarian perspective
Like raping unconscious women? So long as they never find out about it there really doesn't seem to be a good argument not to.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 03:10:33 UTC No. 16283123
>>16277707
Yes, because what we see, and what we feel, are the only things we can be certain about
All other logical framing devices are an abstraction attempting to describe how we feel, and an abstraction is allways lesser than the real thing.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:18:48 UTC No. 16284521
>>16282414
why does it exist faggot? huh? you don't know what you're talking about, these chemicals are necessary for humans to actually reproduce because they're too stubborn and stupid.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:02:10 UTC No. 16284547
>>16277707
Interesting how the narrative of dopamine as the reward chemical disappears once you’re discussing anti-psychotics.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:09:28 UTC No. 16284557
>>16277707
The most hilarious part of this obvious projection by the writers is that it implies Rick would actually recommend that an absolute dimitted retard like Morty "focus on science". Nobody with the competence necessary to actually make scientific discoveries would ever make the observation that someone with a McDonald's manager IQ.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 07:31:06 UTC No. 16284615
>>16277707
It's not about whether this is true or not, is about people unable to cope with the fact that they are nothing more than complex meat toys, which is exactly what a character like rick would not do.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:38:55 UTC No. 16285588
>>16277707
yes, that I dont have the IQ to focus on science so that would just lead to more misery than focusing on spreading genes. cant spread memes if you lack the creative capacity
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:40:19 UTC No. 16285591
>>16284557
tbf Morty could mantain a career in the sciences if he kept shoving the smart seeds up his ass
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:46:20 UTC No. 16285663
>>16278340
>the only thing that matters in a logical world is happiness
Proof?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:15:13 UTC No. 16285698
>>16277707
I see pickle rick hasn't read his CS Lewis
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:36:54 UTC No. 16285729
>>16285663
Except if happiness is purely happy brain chemicals, then injecting those chemicals should cause any amount of happiness in whatever form we want, from drug-induced highs or orgasms to relaxed contemplative satisfaction, from feelings of solitary happiness to feelings of happiness from being with one’s people, friends and family
> this is not observed
So no, happiness isn’t purely chemical, there’s a cognitive component that involves experience, experience of a person. This is has a subjective component. And with it being subjective comes the meaning that we as people attach to things in the world, and whether and how they make us happy.
> so no, happy != happy chemicals
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 19:53:15 UTC No. 16287655
>>16277857
False if only winners remain then why are there so many pajeets in world? They outbreed the civilized west does that mean those poos are superior?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:36:01 UTC No. 16288594
>>16278436
>science is just a series of claims that expire every decade
>they promise permament epistemic support but leave you hanging as new experiments are done
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:14:23 UTC No. 16288788
>>16277707
Are you/they saying love wouldn’t have an objective background to its objective foreground? What?
Do you think love doesn’t exist? Is that what Rick is assuming? Brain chemistry is the ESSENCE of being.
Great fucking scene by the way. His logic is so fucking stupid, practically abhorrent, it shows how jaded he is as a genius.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 21:01:13 UTC No. 16288847
>>16278964
Does your wife love you or does she love what you provide her with? Will she leave you if are no longer able to provide these things?
I have noticed that most marriages are actually business deals, nothing more. Maybe she didn’t get some other guy that she truly loved because he couldn’t provide, so she opted for you instead.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 23:27:46 UTC No. 16289001
>>16277707
Wouldn't that mean his parents already did it?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 23:58:23 UTC No. 16289033
>>16277825
The result is different
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 04:29:44 UTC No. 16289227
>>16277707
Homosapiens are a social species.
The overall emotional spectrum that we use the word 'love' to describe covers more than just the basic urge to reproduce.
We can 'love' our same-sex friends, all concerned being heterosexual, and there's no reproductive activity involved, for instance.
Parents 'love' their children, and vice-versa.
One can have 'love' for all of humanity; no sexual activity enters into it.
'Love' in general binds us together as a species. Without it we'd all be solitary creatures, like some species of animals are, only encountering others of our species to mate, or fight for territory, and so on. Without the social interaction we likely wouldn't even have a civilization at all.
I'd go so far as to say 'love' in general is a survival trait in our species. We're stronger together than we are as separate individuals.
OP might be a stupid faggot at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 04:39:00 UTC No. 16289243
>>16277707
Love is defined as liking something a lot and cultivating the feeling. It doesn't just apply to someone of the opposite sex, it is in practice generalized to mostly things we don't have sex with nor are within our exact gene pool.
Each individual ultimately loves gaining power, not necessarily reproducing. Only a few seem to pursue that natural love, the will to power though, interestingly enough.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:11:42 UTC No. 16290400
>>16289033
What's the point in "pursuing science" if you don't procreate? Who will inherit your advances in knowledge.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:17:55 UTC No. 16290405
>>16277825
>>16278768
>>16279678
>>16282392
>>16282272
It's a hypocritical meme. If Mickey is so weary of chemicals why should trust Mickey either?
Therefore our only chance is to trust a theory that least tries to rise above the chemicals.
inb4: "you can never rise above them".
in that case: why should we trust that you're aren't an animal that talks chemical nonsense?
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:18:30 UTC No. 16290406
What people call "the pain of burning alive" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to flee from fire.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:18:58 UTC No. 16290407
>>16277825
>>16278768
>>16279678
>>16282392
>>16282272
It's a hypocritical meme. If Mickey is so weary of chemicals then why should we trust Mickey either?
Therefore our only chance is to trust a theory that at least tries to rise above the chemicals.
inb4: "you can never rise above them".
in that case: why should we trust that you're aren't an animal that talks chemical nonsense?
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 05:19:59 UTC No. 16291808
>>16290400
Everyone else, you selfish retard.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 05:25:07 UTC No. 16291816
It doesn’t matter what love is comprised of when autists like Rick will be forever disingenuous about it.
“LIGHT DOESNT EXIST ITS JUST PHOTONS”
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:20:40 UTC No. 16292858
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:22:02 UTC No. 16292861
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:23:35 UTC No. 16292864
>>16288847
https://youtu.be/d6Pcp944sRI
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:24:53 UTC No. 16292865
>>16288847
https://youtu.be/d6Pcp944sRI