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Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:07:05 UTC No. 16277863
Do blind people have the ability to visualize things in their mind? What does a blind person's imagination look like? Apparently blind people don't even see black. The sense of sight is literally not there. Also, if you lost your sight would you begin to forget what sight even was?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:20:55 UTC No. 16278453
>>16277863
Nigga we can't even empirically prove anyone other than ourselves has a conciousness and you're asking for specifics of a particular conciousness. Ask some blind dude, you won't get a better answer.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:09:00 UTC No. 16278486
>>16277863
No aphantasia isn't fucking real. There is no evidence and personal anecdote and self-reporting isn't valid. People only claim to have it to feel special. You can catch these same people doing what they claim they can not do every time they forget their "condition".
Blind people probably visualize in abstraction.
Also what the other anon said, you're asking for something that can't be proven. There's no answer so take my post with a grain of salt (except the first part because fuck the retarded muh aphantasia crowd)
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:12:11 UTC No. 16278491
>>16278486
>There is no evidence and personal anecdote and self-reporting isn't valid.
That's literally all we have to "study" conciousness.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:13:31 UTC No. 16278492
>>16277863
Iirc people who are born without senses can't imagine using those senses. People who lost their sight in childhood/adulthood can still see things in their dreams or have visual hallucinations
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:47:09 UTC No. 16278894
>>16277863
They have a good internal representation of 3D objects, because manipulation works well for that.
In some aspects it's even better than visual.
Basically anything else you can't touch or hear is pretty much alien.
>if you lost your sight would you begin to forget what sight even was
Depends on how old you were.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:50:17 UTC No. 16278898
>>16278491
Yeah that's all we have. You can't bury your dead grandpa because he's probably still conscious and he needs to tell us that he's not conscious before we can bury him
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:04:51 UTC No. 16278915
>>16278486
>Blind people probably visualize in abstraction.
A blind guy in Youtube, blind from birth, says he isnt seeing black, he doesnt know what a color or a void is
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:09:32 UTC No. 16278923
>>16278915
How would he know that if he doesn't know what seeing is?