Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:21:16 UTC No. 16279179

>>16279166
Control for iq. Seems simple enough.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:35:34 UTC No. 16279205

If your outcomes among racial groups are different due to anything other than systemic bias, that by definition is bigotry

bodhi at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:06:43 UTC No. 16279264

>>16279205
based soience man with the win

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 23:17:56 UTC No. 16279532

>>16279166
>how do I scientifically prove something which isn't true
You're shit out of luck, OP.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 05:24:35 UTC No. 16279918

>>16279166
try being as racist as you possibly can and see how many negroes you can drive into abject poverty by doing so. if you can't do it to at least one negro then your hypothesis is falsified.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 05:29:21 UTC No. 16279924

>>16279166
EZ AF: kill all nigs with IQ below 120 in all the world. That will fix several problems at the same time.

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 07:42:22 UTC No. 16281111

>>16279166
if it was because of racism they'd be able to figure out how to overcome the obstacle, but if they have low iq then they'd be too dumb to figure out how to overcome the obstacle

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 10:26:49 UTC No. 16281219

>>16279166
>How do I scientifically prove that black people have worse economic outcomes in life because of racism and not low IQ?

If we're talking about US Blacks as highlighted in the picture than that's pretty easy. The denial of WW2 GI Bill benefits + Redlining pretty much stonewalled African American soldiers economic development. Said situation is a pretty well known historical evidence of racism effecting economic outcome.

But if you want something a little more actively analytical then let's do this.

Problem, US Blacks have a high single parent rate (especially on the mother side). Said high rate is a factor in terms of affecting future education, behavior and job prospects of children.

Solution, US Blacks should collectively shift their primary religion over from Christianity (which 70% currently practice it) to Islam (which 3% currently practice it) as a way to potentially resolve said issue. Since Islam is more stricter on sexual partnership/parental behavior particularly on the females. It is also less inviting to feminists tendencies and thought processes. It could either reduce or slow the rate of occurrence.

Question, would White Americans and the Government allow them to collectively shift their religion if it meant utilizing it as a solution to reduce single parent rates and help with their economics? And if not, would that mean their agency is restricted and racism is involved in preventing that collective decision?

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 10:34:30 UTC No. 16281226

>>16279924
but then my iq will only be like 130 and i refuse to be a midwit

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:35:39 UTC No. 16281344

>>16279179
funny how many IFLS shitters don't know what that means

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:38:46 UTC No. 16281349

>>16279924
>a few millimeters of bone

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 15:42:29 UTC No. 16281420

>>16279166
>How do I scientifically prove that black people have worse economic outcomes in life because of racism and not low IQ?

The statement we need to prove:
"black people have worse economic outcomes in life because of racism and not low IQ"
"black people" can refer to any group of black people containing at least 2 of them. For example, "dogs are friendly" can mean dogs are generally friendly, all friendly, or sometimes friendly, but we can take it to mean at least 2 dogs are friendly because of the ambiguity of the given statement.
The number of black people currently alive is about 1 billion. For the statement to be correct, we need there to be at least 2 in a billion black people to have worse outcomes due to racism and not low iq.
I bet we can easily find black people that have worse outcomes (relative to what? themselves without racism or other races?) with racism being a primary cause, but for our 2 black people it must also not be a consequence of low IQ (low IQ of who? themselves? anyone?). You could always argue that low IQ is always a primary reason of worse outcomes since if you are smarter you can more easily achieve goals.
In summary, I find the statement you are trying to prove too confusing to understand what exactly it is you want to show. I do not think you can prove such a confusing statement.

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:05:07 UTC No. 16281437

>>16281420
pilpul

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:22:39 UTC No. 16281452

>>16279924
how many rounds of culling do you advocate? When below-100 is eliminated, that deflates the iq score for those above 100

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:54:10 UTC No. 16281470

>>16279166
you don't prove it, and instead devote a lot of faith towards something like "systemic racism," "dialectical materialism" or "late stage capitalism" to explain it

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:56:35 UTC No. 16281472

>>16281420
>>16279166

Agreed, we need to first agree on the following points:

> black people refers to everybody from Obama to a Kalahari bushman
> black people come from an area that spans an entire fucking continent, larger than Europe and America (USA)
> it should be possible to redo the study while also taking into account the background of the black persons tested
> if the low IQ black persons correspond with 1st gen immigrants from Africa with little to no education, there’s your answer

You could also further argue that it’s racism, but that’s an analysis of society and politics. This is the simplest answer, that they merely took every black person they got and argued that they’re forming a cohesive group. In reality, this is too simplistic and African people are both culturally and genetically diverse; in fact I think a study showed that different African groups are more different genetically from each other than different European groups or something

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 19:07:31 UTC No. 16281570

>>16281472
>>16281472
>>16281420
> black people refers to everybody from Obama to a Kalahari bushman
This is too hard to characterize. A better definition of black people is: people with over 50% of some genetic quantity that corresponds to sub-Saharan African ethnic origins. Or perhaps we should characterize them on a spectrum for amount of blackness, which would be more accurate. But then the initial statement made by the OP is even more uninterpretable because being black would no longer be a binary variable but a percentage.
Plan:
1) DNA test subjects to determine their genetic background to confirm they are black or determine degree of blackness.
2) Give random sample of Blacks in US an IQ test.
3) Find their immigration and education status.
4) Hypothesis: Blacks with lower IQ than typical blacks correspond to first generation immigrants to the US from Africa with little to no education.
If hypothesis is true, then IQ is correlated with country of birth when measured in the US. This still would not tell us if black people have worse economic outcomes due to racism or low IQ. It would tell us that the collective black IQ increased after immigrating to the US. Am I missing something?
What statement are you trying to demonstrate evidence for?

Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jul 2024 19:45:20 UTC No. 16281584

>>16281111

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:47:12 UTC No. 16282511

>>16279166
Can't prove something that isn't true

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:52:06 UTC No. 16282516

>>16281470
funny how the burden of proof never falls on them

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:52:28 UTC No. 16283979

>>16279166
its because of low IQ

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:01:09 UTC No. 16283991

>>16279166
has the DSM-V undone this?

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 02:58:38 UTC No. 16285948

>>16282511
sure you can, all sorts of people think the holocaust is a true story

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 05:40:15 UTC No. 16286062

>>16279166
Isn't that medicine related in a way? They just use observational studies in medicine not real science, just observe some people being victims of racism and exclude stuff that doesn't fit your narrative. Just like every other medical study. It's a very unethical field so no one will mind.

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:53:47 UTC No. 16286411

But the DSM is a drug marketing device at least half of it is fake?

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 09:59:25 UTC No. 16286685

What would real stats look like?

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 12:13:47 UTC No. 16287084

>>16279166
>How do I scientifically prove that black people have worse economic outcomes in life because of racism and not low IQ?
But USA blacks do have lower IQs than the general population due to a conflation of unfortunate non-biological factors, such as poverty and deficient culture. In countries outside the US, that IQ gap is non-existent or much reduced.

What you need to do is prove, scientifically, that the real IQ gap is of non-biological origin.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 04:49:20 UTC No. 16288069

>>16279166
>How do I scientifically prove that black people have worse economic outcomes in life because of racism and not low IQ?
You'd need to resort to dishonesty to accomplish that, but fortunately for you dishonesty is widely accepted and commonplace in academia.

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 04:07:54 UTC No. 16289222

>>16281584
It was quads you idiot

frin at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 04:27:33 UTC No. 16289225

>>16279166
the argument that it is culture aligns with coming from a jungle area and all ethnicities from such tend to flounder in modern society

the exact cause is probably genetic still, but not the IQ although that goes along with it is my best guess

jungle areas basically prevent any real culture from ever establishing

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 17:19:10 UTC No. 16289805

>>16281219
>Redlining
You mean correctly noticing that certain subpopulations were disproportionately likely to not pay back their mortgage loans?

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 17:36:30 UTC No. 16289830

I feel it is more reliant on the person. Like I'm pretty stupid, and I am white. But then you have George Washington Carver. If we are going to bring in race and inequality, it is less about the race and more about everything else, you have area, family, depending on how you physically look that might make you more popular.

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 18:37:42 UTC No. 16289904

Scientific results I don't like are fascism.

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 18:40:02 UTC No. 16289907

>>16289830
If you acknowledge that you're stupid then why do you presume that your stupid opinions aren't also stupid? What about the high regard you hold Neil Degrasse Peanutbutter? It must be stupid since you are stupid.

bodhi at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:56:50 UTC No. 16289998

>>16285948
>think
But you cant prove it is true

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:22:21 UTC No. 16290032

>>16287084
>But USA blacks do have lower IQs than the general population due to a conflation of unfortunate non-biological factors, such as poverty and deficient culture. In countries outside the US, that IQ gap is non-existent or much reduced.
What a load of shit. Sub-Saharan Africans IQ's are even lower in their native lands in Africa. Their "deficient culture" or lack of high culture is a result of their low IQ; as well as being poor. Sub-Saharan Africans are functionally retarded. Hell they're basically not even the same species. Keep coping.

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:36:46 UTC No. 16290045

>>16281219
> The denial of WW2 GI Bill benefits + Redlining pretty much stonewalled African American soldiers economic development.
Niggers weren’t denied GI benefits, they didn’t get them because none of them served in the military. The 0.1% of nignogs that actually joined the military in ww2 got their GI benefits.

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:38:03 UTC No. 16290049

>>16281219
> Question, would White Americans and the Government allow them to collectively shift their religion if it meant utilizing it as a solution to reduce single parent rates and help with their economics?
The assumptions premising this question are so fucking retarded that I wonder if you’re from India?

Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 19:13:01 UTC No. 16291194

>>16290045
The bicycle theft brigade was key to victory over Japan. Racist science faggots are always minimizing the negro contribution by trying to claim that ">muh soiyence" did it all by inventing the atom bomb, but the truth is that acquiring enemy assets and using them for yourself is a more effective for of warfare than just destroying enemy assets.

Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 19:25:13 UTC No. 16291208

>>16279166

Due to the nature of logic and reality, it is impossible to furnish a correct proof of some state of affairs which is not the case. So, if you insist on convincing others of something that is not the case by way of proof, you'll have to devise a fallacious proof of some sort. You may experience your best success by covering up, as much as possible, the basic logical faults which your fallacious proof will necessarily entail, in the course of your pseudo-demonstration. You may also wish to use emotion and rhetorical flourishes, which are quite effective at convincing others, and the best that you can hope to do. People believe lots of stupid things that aren't true. However, you will remain powerless to alter the structure of reality itself, and reality will have the stubborn tendency to countermand the false worldview that you encourage in others.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 19:14:10 UTC No. 16292515

>>16279918
>try being as racist as you possibly can and see how many negroes you can drive into abject poverty by doing so. if you can't do it to at least one negro then your hypothesis is falsified.
This is the only scientific way to do it.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 21:46:41 UTC No. 16293984

>>16290045
NOOOOOOOO
WE WUZ WW2 AND SHEEEIIIIIITTTTT

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 19:59:12 UTC No. 16295134

>>16293984
>WE WUZ EGYPT
>WE WUZ SAMURAIS
>WE WUZ NASA
how come africans can't just be proud of being africans? why are they constantly trying to appropriate the achievements of other cultures?

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:03:14 UTC No. 16295140

>Give one kid a great education, nutrition, and social support
>Test their IQ
>Go back in time
>Give the same kid poor parents and "education"
>Test their IQ
>Compare
Easy, right?

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:47:13 UTC No. 16296376

>>16279166
Wrong. Racism gives those animals far more resources than they deserve. Every year at least 10'000 of them should starve to death. That is the natural order.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 20:11:55 UTC No. 16296419

>>16279166
>how do I prove something that isn't true?
You don't, nigger.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 20:40:43 UTC No. 16296464

>>16279166
Low IQ is associated with poverty, e.g, bad home environment and lack of resources. Poverty is the real issue. Racism (or the caste system, or apartheid) is simply a known inducer of these things. Compare an Indian farmer who lived in poverty his entire life vs one raised in a western country and became a software engineer.

It's not the only cause of poverty. The rich want to keep their workers poorer so they keep wages low and living expenses high. Or the rich who already have the power simply don't care or arent smart enough about using it to advance their people (certain dictatorships). Or maybe they just want their population to stay dumb to keep them in power (certain states). Human reluctance to change is common (rural kid doesn't want to leave the farm for a better life in the city, an adult not wanting to leave the job they had for 10 years). Religion often holds people down too.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 02:23:37 UTC No. 16296819

>>16295140
you can do this with identical twins.
pro tip: aside from severe malnutrition, poisoning, and extreme abuse, there will be very little difference in IQ.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 02:28:48 UTC No. 16296826

>>16296464
it's not poverty, it's genetics. if you're born with top 10% IQ you'll be better off when you're 40 than if you're born with top 10% wealthy parents.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 12:01:19 UTC No. 16297195

And that's a nasty lifelong dissease that causes pain to subject, therefore they need to go to euthanasia.

That's it.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 05:02:54 UTC No. 16298472

>>16296819
those twin studies have all been done before, all of mengele's supposedly immoral experiments were repeated by jewish scientists hoping to get different results and they all got the same results mengele did. people with good genes always rise to the top regardless initial conditions and the people with the good genes are whites

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 04:04:28 UTC No. 16299907

>>16296826
wrong

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:18:40 UTC No. 16301083

>>16279166
>I want to gather data and honestly assess the results
vs
>I want to force the data to fit my preconceived ideas

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:34:26 UTC No. 16301180

>>16279166
Here's some more evidence for your research.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:44:02 UTC No. 16301193

Easy to be racist if you've never tried to speak to an Appalachian

That should fix your racism

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:48:32 UTC No. 16301201

>>16281219
>The denial of WW2 GI Bill benefits + Redlining pretty much stonewalled African American soldiers economic development.
No it didn't.

>Said situation is a pretty well known historical evidence of racism effecting economic outcome.
It's pretty well known niggers are subhuman.

>Problem, US Blacks have a high single parent rate (especially on the mother side). Said high rate is a factor in terms of affecting future education, behavior and job prospects of children.
This is a potential factor, but you need demonstrate that
A. It is the predominant factor resulting in economic disparity.
B. That said economic disparity is causing the suppression of IQ.
C. That you're not confusing the chicken for the egg.

>US Blacks should collectively shift their primary religion over from Christianity (which 70% currently practice it) to Islam (which 3% currently practice it) as a way to potentially resolve said issue. Since Islam is more stricter on sexual partnership/parental behavior particularly on the females. It is also less inviting to feminists tendencies and thought processes.
You do realise there are majority Islamic nigger nations in Africa? Do you want me to go into how well that worked out?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:51:44 UTC No. 16301203

>>16301193
It's funny how niggers manage to be worse than them

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:27:08 UTC No. 16302268

>>16301203
2500 years ago Hanno the navigator, a major naval figure from Carthage, set sail on one of the great voyages of discovery. He sailed from the Mediterranean out of the straights of Gibraltar to explore the coast of Africa with a fleet of 60 ships, he worked his way down the coast past Mauritania to subsaharan Africa where he found his surprise that the people there all had "burnt skin" as he described it, which is to say they were negroes. After meeting people like this for a while every time his ships made landfall, Hanno eventually came to an island off the coast of what is now Cameroon that was filled with burnt skin people who were very hairy and extremely unruly. He named this tribe "Gorillas".
Because Hanno was not influenced by our modern ideas of species he had to call things as he saw them and he was unable to differentiate between gorillas and African negroes other than that the gorillas were hairier.

Frin at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:34:08 UTC No. 16302279

>>16279166
Why would you want them not to have worse outcomes if they have lower IQ?

You stupid?