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Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 22:35:45 UTC No. 16280746
Wouldn't it be completely expected and normal to see polar ice sheets shrinking during an interglacial period?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:13:14 UTC No. 16281965
obviously
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:18:48 UTC No. 16281970
>>16280746
Generally no. Glaciers are only stable when the climate is stable. Also that implies the glacier melt isnt going to accelerate in the coming years, which it probably will. Exactly when the glaciers will be gone ut anybody's guess though.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:25:06 UTC No. 16281978
>>16280746
Also he said 30 million TONNES, not tons (Amerishart moment), so the math is wrong. Multiply 262.8 billion by about 1.1 an you get the real answer (again, assuming it's not going to accelerate)
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:44:32 UTC No. 16282228
>>16281970
I am not going to dig it out again, last time I did it by following the links from Wikipedia, but the estimated mass change of the Greenland ice mass is smaller than the measurement error. in other words it may be growing for all we know.
>probably
your hope for an 'I told you so' moment is disgusting.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:56:38 UTC No. 16283313
>>16282228
>it may be growing
it definitely is
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:18:48 UTC No. 16284520
>>16283313
Right, but we're not really in an interglacial period currently, we're in the transition period between an interglacial period and an ice age.
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 06:28:16 UTC No. 16286105
>>16282228
ice sheet mass estimates are extremely low quality, notoriously so
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 02:06:23 UTC No. 16287975
>>16286105
That would make it extremely easy to lie about "oy vey the world is coming to an end because muh ice sheets are melting"
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 02:15:55 UTC No. 16287982
>>16281970
I remember going to Glacier National Park in the US and they had a sign saying the glaciers would be gone by 2020. They are still there.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 21:52:25 UTC No. 16288916
>>16281970
>when the climate is stable
No such thing as a stable climate, familiarize yourself with the concept of dynamic stability, the climate has never been stable.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:52:58 UTC No. 16290074
>>16288916
>dynamic stability
thats stable tho
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:03:41 UTC No. 16290090
>>16288916
On long time periods the climate changes. On short time periods the climate is stable and glaciers don't change unless the planet is seriously out of equilibrium.
As in billions of tons of ice shouldn't be melting each year. Ice caps of "normal" levels of oscillation.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:08:08 UTC No. 16290093
>>16290090
Thats completely wrong, interglacial periods are relatively brief and polar ice needs to decile rapidly during them otherwise all of the planet's water would eventually be locked up in the polar ice caps.
Over 100,000 years of polar ice accumulation needs to disappear during a 10,000 year long interglacial period for the world to have ended up as we currently see it.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:23:50 UTC No. 16290110
>>16290093
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 22:23:08 UTC No. 16290167
>>16280746
Yes, but not at this current rate
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 19:24:53 UTC No. 16291206
>>16290167
wrong, the current rate is pretty much exactly the expected rate for an interglacial period
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 08:13:31 UTC No. 16291904
>>16291206
>the current rate is pretty much exactly the expected rate for an interglacial period
sauce, because that is counter to everything I'ver read and heard about it.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 19:10:32 UTC No. 16292503
>>16291206
Polar ice sheets aren't melting, Greenland's has a net gain in mass. Same is true in the Antarctic.
They only melt near the coasts, where they're easier to measure, because thats where they come into contact with the liquid parts of the ocean and the ocean moderated climate.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 19:12:12 UTC No. 16292508
>>16292503
>Greenland's has a net gain in mass
sauce, because that too is counter to everything I'ver read and heard about it.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 21:48:03 UTC No. 16293985
>>16292508
>i only read CNN propaganda
>i never read actual scientific articles
>thats why i consider myself an expert in science
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 08:04:52 UTC No. 16294463
>>16293985
Anon, this isn't about me, it's about what you're claiming. The burden of proof is on you.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:00:44 UTC No. 16295136
>>16290090
>glaciers don't change
they constantly change, they are a lagging indicator of the climate
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 22:22:38 UTC No. 16296560
>>16280746
yes, obviously
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:42:44 UTC No. 16297936
>>16295136
Ice that was formed on glaciers during the little ice age over 150 years ago still hasn't completely melted. It'll be over a century before its all gone