๐งต is this a valid proof?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:03:56 UTC No. 16282201
let [math]x \in \mathbb R_+, \displaystyle D_n(x) = \sum^n_{k=1} \mathtt d_k(x) 10^{-k} \in \mathbb Q[/math] where [math]d_k(x)[/math] is the [math]k[/math]-th decimal of [math]x[/math]
for all [math]\epsilon > 0[/math], let [math]p= \lfloor -\log10(\epsilon) \rfloor[/math] (so that [math]10^{-p} \ge \epsilon[/math])
then for all [math]\displaystyle n \ge p, \underbrace{(x-\lfloor x \rfloor)}_{0.d_1(x)d_2(x)\cdots} - \underbrace{D_n(x)}_{0.d_1(x)\cdots
therefore [math]\displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty} D_n(x) = x - \lfloor x \rfloor \in \mathbb R[/math]
let [math]0 \le x < y[/math] in [math]\mathbb R[/math], let [math]\displaystyle q_n = \frac{\lfloor x \rfloor + D_n(x) + \lfloor y \rfloor + D_n(y)}{2} \in \mathbb Q[/math],
using the previous property of [math]D_n[/math], we can show that
[math]\frac{x+y}{2} - q_n \le 10^{-n+1}[/math], therefore, [math]\displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty} q_n = \frac{x+y}{2}[/math]
therefore [math]\bar{\mathbb Q} = \mathbb R[/math]
Is my proof valid? what do you think?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:25:54 UTC No. 16282218
>>16282201
No, because decimals are ill-defined. In decimals you get 0.999... = 1 which ruins your proof.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:37:33 UTC No. 16282226
>>16282201
What is the point of y in this proof?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:49:52 UTC No. 16282282
>>16282226
This is taking the average of a lower and upper bound, then bringing the two closer and closer together.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:25:24 UTC No. 16282486
Are you trying to prove the rationals are dense in the (non-negative) reals? If so, you're missing some steps at the end to actually construct the rational number between the two reals. Also >>16282218 but you can fix that by specifying whether you want to use the 000... decimal or the 999... decimal. Since you're proving very basic facts about the reals, it would help to know what you're assuming about the reals / what model you're using, and what theorems you already have proofs for.