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Anonymous No. 16283271

How to avoid women from cheating in science and academia? What changes should be applied?

Anonymous No. 16283417

Clitoridectomy

Anonynous No. 16283421

>>16283271
Obviously if it was cited over 2000 times it had real value to people. Just because its retracted doesn't mean its worthless.

Anonymous No. 16283450

>>16283421
>I t showed that it's false and misleading
>Fuuuuck, muh citation rate is high, basedentist cannot make mistakes

Anonymous No. 16283454

>>16283271
Its not a woman doing it. Its a french man. The woman was just one of the editor or something while the guy that falsified the record is still employed

Anonymous No. 16283455

>>16283271
I don't think "cheating" is the right word to describe fraud desu

Anonymous No. 16283475

>>16283454
The woman is actually the lead researcher

Anonymous No. 16283485

If something has a gene it doesn't mean admixture it could mean descending directly from

Anonynous No. 16283596

>>16283450
No one was talking about dentistry, schizo.

Anonymous No. 16283605

>>16283271
Women are known for being unable to resist temptation. Have a dominant man's honor in the game and he would make her fear him to much to pull a trick like that again.
This is a topic for the humanities btw.
>inb4 "why though?"
Evolution and culture, 50-50.

Anonymous No. 16283709

>>16283475
you're retarded. lead researchers responsibility just write grant, sponsor the research money and give high level research direction advise. the frenchcuck is the one who committed all the fraud most likely. also for her it's just this specific paper. this woman doesn't have a track record of committing fraud unlike some other Nobel Prize in Medicine winners. unless she has multiple and consistent pattern of committing fraud, I am 90% sure the frenchtard is the only perpetrator here.

Anonymous No. 16283901

>>16283709
>lead researchers responsibility just write grant
>Commited fraud for frenchie faggot
>Muuuuuh, she is not responsible for her actions and fraud it's all the Frenchie. She had good reputation

Anonymous No. 16283909

>>16283709
I don't see the need for you to mention the Nobel prize in this context as it is only awarded discoveries having benefitted humanity in some way. Hence why Einstein got it for the photoelectric effect rather than the theory of relativity.

Anonymous No. 16283910

>>16283709
This has got to be a chink shill.

Anonymous No. 16283913

>>16283271
Adults who know that their adult truths are fictional teach children to worry about whether their child truths might be fictional. The power dynamic makes the children feel like the fictional adult truths are somehow less fictional than the fictional child truth.

Anonymous No. 16284450

>>16283596
U understood what I wanted to type. Faggot

Anonynous No. 16284529

>>16283271
Do people here really think that a study being retracted is the same as the study being fake and not merely flawed.
Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.

Anonymous No. 16284536

>>16284529
Every study is flawed. Retraction is essentially seppuku.

Anonymous No. 16284550

>>16284529
Retraction is evidence that study is legitimate garbage and gives more harm than benefits

Anonymous No. 16284597

>>16283901
>>16283909
>>16283910
you fucking /pol/tards monkeys don't have enough intelligence to read above the first image or headline. dumbfucks please kill yourself.

Anonymous No. 16284660

>>16284597
You counteraddict yourself in ur own post roastie

Anonymous No. 16284681

>>16283271
how the fuck did nobody notice the data was fake until now? i read neuro papers all the time and have to take a huge grain of salt with all the shit that i see. if you're in the field and not a skeptic then you're doing it wrong.

Anonymous No. 16285089

>>16283910
Its that you're a retard. She has nothing to do with the actual research paper other than approvals. The actual research was done or in this case, created the fraud paper by the french guy

Anonymous No. 16285108

>>16283421
If I had a study that established that you sucked 100 dicks, and it was cited over 2000 times, does that mean you actually sucked 100 dicks?
No. The number of times it was cited is not some form of validation of how valid it was. It's actually worse, cause it shows how many have been lied to and possibly had their own research hurt cause of it.

Anonymous No. 16285180

>>16283709
>Woman gets bribed by gollioner
>It's not female's fault it's all tge work of le evil billioner. She is innocent!!!!!
This how u look roastie

Anonymous No. 16285999

>>16283455
They do both

Anonymous No. 16286351

>>16283271
You can't . We should be obedient to our female overlords

Anonymous No. 16287520

>>16283605
Beat the eternal female

Anonymous No. 16287733

>>16283709
>lead researchers responsibility just write grant, sponsor the research money and give high level research direction advise
This is not just wrong, it is exceptionally wrong.

Anonymous No. 16287836

>>16287733
She is the supervisor not the lead researcher which is the french tranny over there. You dumbtards probably never graduated college. Please kill yourself low IQ uneducated faggot.

Anonymous No. 16288026

>>16287836
>Authors of a landmark Alzheimer’s disease research paper published in Nature in 2006 have agreed to retract the study in response to allegations of image manipulation. University of Minnesota (UMN) Twin Cities neuroscientist Karen Ashe, the paper’s senior author, acknowledged in a post on the journal discussion site PubPeer that the paper contains doctored images. The study has been cited nearly 2500 times, and would be the second* most cited paper ever to be retracted, according to Retraction Watch data.
>Karen Ashe

Anonymous No. 16288030

>>16283421
This. Who cares of it's false? The important thing is that it started a conversation

Anonymous No. 16288086

>>16287836
U misinform about her involvement

Anonymous No. 16288122

>>16283421
but then it's no better than a meme

Anonymous No. 16288644

>>16288122
Yesss

Anonymous No. 16289177

ban women

Anonymous No. 16289575

>>16289177
This

Anonymous No. 16290030

>>16289177
Double this

Anonymous No. 16290687

You cant

Anonymous No. 16291216

>>16290687
I can

Anonymous No. 16291274

>>16288030
My blood pressure from reading that holy fuck. You're a magician.

Anonymous No. 16291286

>>16283271
Let me guess, it has something to do with the fake vaccines?

Anonymous No. 16291293

>>16288122
lurk long enough and you will find that nearly every study ever made is just a meme

Anonymous No. 16291298

>>16284681
Good luck having more than 20% of researchers doing that. They're just too dumb.

Anonymous No. 16291310

>>16291274
Because even bad data still gives us key information that we can still use in research. A fuckton of research "bad data" that for whatever reason was later redone and gave us new one. Research is all about mistakes and fuckups more than getting things "right". Sometimes it takes ages to actually confirm if data used is actually solid down the line with newer discoveries and info.

Anonymous No. 16291313

>>16291310
And being skeptic about "good data" is still super warranted in the field as always.

Anonymous No. 16291320

>>16284536
Retarction doesn't mean "it's totally thrown out". You do know often times they redo it than release the new/changed sets under corrected paper.

Anonymous No. 16291634

>>16283271
>What changes should be applied
Public execution. Hanging or guillotine. I could accept firing squad in a pinch.

Anonymous No. 16291702

>>16291310
Except in this case it was completely falsified, and in fact was the wrong path to take,, confirmed by 16 years and billions of dollars put into research that absolutely fucking failed because the entire premise was wrong from the beginning. That's a decade that could have been spent on a potentially worthwhile treatment. It would have possibly been different had it just been one small thing out of many research ideas, but the entire industry bit hook, line, and sinker. And her punishment? Nothing! Someone could rob a family of a few thousand and end up in jail for years, but she costs the world 16 years of medical research and several billion dollars and nothing happens.

Anonymous No. 16291729

>>16291310
Oh... You're serious.

Anonymous No. 16291936

>>16283271
Lesné is a man, that pic is not related. Seriously, /sci/...

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16292161

>>16291936
>Seriously, /sci/...
the OP is a retarded /pol/tards who try to mislead people here. it's deliberately malicious intent. when /pol/ send its retarded faggots, they're not sending their best...

Anonymous No. 16292172

>>16283271
Women & Cheating, name a more iconic duo.

Anonymous No. 16292176

>>16291936
>>16292161
>Lead researcher who worked on the study and when retraction was imminent calmed down
>It's all le evil misleading poltards and the picture of karen is not rellllaaaaated Aaa

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16292180

>>16292176
the fucking maggot who committed the fraud is the french man. this woman probably trusted the maggot to be honest and failed to supervise properly. that's the extend of her responsiblity. she has no other pattern of committing fraud. I don't expect low IQ /pol/tards subhumans like you to understand how all this works but stop spamming this board with your shit. if you are spamming, at least do it properly.

Anonymous No. 16292410

>>16292180
You already said that pic is not related, then you said it's all the french guy, ok. Now you defend this woman by saying she "didn't know" and "didn't have recordings of commiting frauds". Well, she committed fraud with that frenchie, and probably knew it

Anonymous No. 16292882

>>16291936
thought so, pretty unlikely that an Asian woman would do something like this, a Black or Latina woman would make more sense.

Anonymous No. 16292889

>>16292172
Did you know that 50% of the population commits 100% of paternity fraud?

Anonymous No. 16292891

>>16292180
>don't blame the woman, she didn't understand what she was doing, she dindu nuthin
I blame the woman

Anonymous No. 16292925

>>16283421
>doesn't know about the citing rings
ngmi

Anonymous No. 16293742

>>16289177
Triple this

Anonymous No. 16294429

>>16283421
all of the papers that cited it should also be retracted since they are based on false premises

Anonymous No. 16294502

>>16283421
Citations are the main thing that’s killed science.
Just collectivized frauds sucking each other off until all the oxygen in the room is consumed.

Anonymous No. 16295564

>>16283417
This

Anonymous No. 16296186

>>16283417
This

Anonymous No. 16296227

>>16283271
Unironically don't trust any Chinese made papers. So check the last names on papers.

Anonymous No. 16296926

>>16296227
jewish names are far less trustworthy than chinese ones

Anonymous No. 16297114

>>16283417
This. Fpbp

Anonymous No. 16297557

>>16283417
You are the most retarded person I encountered with

Anonymous No. 16298598

>>16292176
He deleted his post. Totally mogged

Anonymous No. 16298603

>>16283271
Its really not just women, they are just worse at hiding it.
Prestige academia is filled with people who cheat, redo the same work others have done before them but with "Harvard/MIT/Stanford" under their name instead, or even lie and alter their experimental results.

I wrote my master thesis at MIT and have friends at harvard and stanford, my views of US academia changed forever. In comparison, prestigious european universities were much more rigorous in their research and there was much less opportunity for people to get a seat in a lab just because they knew the professor in charge. The real things that hold european academia back are the total absence of professional opportunities, the lack of big techs and other prestigious employers, high tax, unfriendly people, shit weather and the third world salary. That us why all of us who had great success flocked to America the second we had the chance to. Foreigners carry the US research on their back in exchange for a better life here. This is peak brain drain and I hope Europe wakes up before uts too late.

Anonymous No. 16298674

>>16283271
Most of this is a problem because of how many Jews are in academia.

Divesting in Israel would solve this because then we could have real academics instead of geopolitical nonsense and pity

Anonymous No. 16299314

>>16298603
America fuck yeah

Anonymous No. 16299956

>>16283417
This

Anonymous No. 16299961

>>16283271
>how to stop women from cheating
remove their rights and make them lropert again
also this >>16283417

Anonymous No. 16299965

>>16299961
*property

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16300014

all of them

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>>16300014

Anonymous No. 16300637

>>16299961
The only right solution

Anonymous No. 16301374

>>16291286
No, but easily could be

Anonymous No. 16301903

She is also a whore btw

Anonymous No. 16302149

>>16283417
This

Anonymous No. 16302861

>>16300021
Wtf is that?

Anonymous No. 16303131

>>16284660
>counteraddict
Why can't /pol/ just fuck off already. They are mentally deficient, and can't even spell. There is no hope communicating with them.

Anonymous No. 16303149

>>16303131
Of course it's easier to equalate mistake in spelling with a mistake in statement. Isn't it, roastie?

Anonymous No. 16303152

>>16303149
There was no "mistake". You clearly don't know the word as you are poorly read. There is no sense in speaking to a gibbering retard. Go do the work of getting smarter, then you can talk to us, for now fuck off.

Anonymous No. 16303154

>>16303152
>>his

Anonymous No. 16303159

>>16291310
You're thinking about inconclusive data, doctored data is caotic and a waste of time for everyone involved and everyone citing it. It will set research back decades.

Anonymous No. 16304108

>>16303152
This board is not a language club

Anonymous No. 16304863

>>16283271
This

Anonymous No. 16305524

>>16303152
his faggot

Anonymous No. 16306064

Never thought about it

Anonymous No. 16306929

>>16284681
Because women

Anonymous No. 16307468

>>16299961
You speak facts

Anonymous No. 16308214

>>16303152
Go back to /his/

Anonymous No. 16309342

>>16283605
Women are evil

Anonymous No. 16309869

>>16309342
But how can we fix it?

Anonymous No. 16310789

>>16291286
No

Anonymous No. 16310793

>>16310789
If you ever die...

Come on, 'kill Shannon's

Honestly, you're very lucky I've got so much dimensional weight against me otherwise if I caught you talking shit to me in the street I would have more than harmed you

Anonymous No. 16312030

>>16310793
Don't behave like an asshole

Anonymous No. 16312088

>>16284597
Please if you are going to refute someone on here don't resort to base ad hom attacks. If you don't have any constructive or informative words to post, then don't post. This is the science board your personal latrine. That would be /b/.

Anonymous No. 16312091

>>16284660
*not your personal latrine

Anonymous No. 16312226

>>16283421
absolute NPC tier response. Retards like you are why science is dead.

Anonymous No. 16313079

>>16283417
This

Anonymous No. 16313099

>>16283709
This is so wrong that not even the opposite of what you said is true.

Anonymous No. 16313895

>>16313099
Why he is wrong?

Anonymous No. 16315089

>>16312226
Tell me why

Anonymous No. 16315111

>>16283454
we dont need you to be mad at frenchmen right now. making you hate women, science and women in science is in the current 5 year plan.

Anonymous No. 16315376

>>16284681
>nobody notice the data was fake until now?
Suspicions have been going on for 16 years or so. It was just very hard to depose someone this famous in her field.

Anonymous No. 16316360

>>16309342
islam is right about women

Anonymous No. 16316377

>>16315089
Science is about discovering reality, not 'having a conversation' based on bullshit. If the paper is found to be fraudulent, 2000 papers that cite it are now wasted time because we didn't discover anything about reality. We just entertained the brainworm of a stupid person.

Anonymous No. 16316430

>>16316377
>Fraudulent sociologist says job application = race discrimination
>2500 other sociologists cite this as the motivation for their research
>these 2500 others sociologists may verify or falsify previous research
What's the problem again?

Anonymous No. 16317557

>>16283417
This

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Anonymous No. 16317566

Anonymous No. 16318355

>>16317566
Wtf that means?

Anonymous No. 16318997

>>16317566
Based

Anonymous No. 16319035

>>16283271
Well lowering the standards was certainly not a good idea.

Anonymous No. 16319055

Lol, Scientism at it's finest.

Anonymous No. 16319976

>>16319055
Womanisn at its best

Anonymous No. 16320930

>>16283271
Revoke thier rights

Anonymous No. 16321720

>>16289177
Quadriple this

Anonymous No. 16323201

>>16283417
Oy vey, thinly veiled circumcision denier

Anonymous No. 16323484

>>16323201
Men should not be mutilated but women should be for good

Anonymous No. 16324580

>>16317566
Context

Anonymous No. 16325571

>>16299961
This