🧵 Coping with Low IQ
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 18:50:22 UTC No. 16285415
As we know, IQ is a strong predictor of financial success, self esteem, and confidence. If a human "is" their brain, then IQ seems like the most important measure of function, hence why /sci/ discusses it incessantly. As a person with poor cognitive metrics myself, including attention and coordination, low attainment, and high suicidiality, what is there for me in life but to die and hope reincarnation is real somehow?
I just can't grasp more advanced problems instantly like others can, and my memory's shot. IQ is immalleable, and even in children, intensive interventions only result in temporary gains, so what is there to do? Even an average IQ in the modern world feels like being a manlet in the NBA.
ITT: We discuss the role and prospects of low IQ people in a cognitively demanding world
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 18:52:55 UTC No. 16285419
Best thing is to accept and be content in your place.
There will always be someone smarter and someone dumber.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 19:34:27 UTC No. 16285481
>>16285415
Even worse, you only get stupider as you age. If you're having a hard time retaining information or holding chunks in working memory at 20, at 50 life will just be a series of intractable problems. People like us never had a chance. I can only hope that there's some radical neurostim therapy soon, because lets face it
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 19:38:11 UTC No. 16285486
How much can you even learn as a low IQ adult? IIRC sub 88 you can't even process anything more than simple sentences.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 20:46:39 UTC No. 16285548
>>16285486
I am pretty dumb. I wanted to be an engineer and went to uni for it, dropped out in the first calculus class I had because I was terrible.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 20:57:31 UTC No. 16285556
>>16285548
Same, I had to take calc twice and wound up dropping out a couple years later lol
I used the "good teacher/bad teacher" cope at first but cmon, the learning comes from the student
The ceiling is low for people like us. If you're below average int with average everything else, you're on the bad side of natural selection, and there's nowhere more painful to be in life.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:22:02 UTC No. 16285579
iq isn't real, faggot
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:35:24 UTC No. 16285586
>>16285579
thats a pretty common cope
but of course its real, a hundred years of cognitive science disagree. theres a measurable underlying g factor that varies among humans widely. youd be denying the existence of both intellectual disability and intellectual gifts. do you really think you can become like john von neumann just through effort? fuck no its not possible. your intellectual functioning is the result of your neurology.
Garrote at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:50:05 UTC No. 16285596
One word: biokinesis.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:52:05 UTC No. 16285599
>>16285596
>use magic
good input
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:43:43 UTC No. 16285658
You can learn wisdom, and be less foolish than ignorant gifted individuals. Then get a decent job through nepotism. Then work relatively hard and rather consistently, and you'll have a shelter and vehicle and food. That means you willbhave an average partner which is a good benefit. Then you'll have children.
Through all of this you'll get comfy & stop striving for intelligence. You'll be mediocre and sometimes incompetent at work. You'll be better off than most; including foolish people who have higher intelligence.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:48:20 UTC No. 16285668
>>16285586
>you really think you can become like john von neumann
Who?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:51:15 UTC No. 16285671
>>16285548
The well off and well informed don't go to uni class to 'learn' (calc., tough_class, etc...). They learn it prior.
The uni is for their credits/degrees/networking/entertai
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:51:54 UTC No. 16285672
>>16285668
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_
father of the von neumann architecture, among other things. had a near eidetic memory and solved unsolved mathematical problems the first time hearing of them
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:58:01 UTC No. 16285677
>>16285415
>If a human "is" their brain
But this is wrong, and irrational
If you accept the position of cartesian dualism (wrong but the default assumed position) then a person is simply the biological process of electrochemical reactions taking place in the brain, triggered by neural interface with the outside world, the brain is merely the processing center of the mechanism through which you interact with reality.
If we accept the nondual perspective which is harder to grasp than cartesian dualism but has the benefit of not being wrong, you are not just the brain but the nervous system, the flesh vehicle containing it, and even out to the bacteria in your gut that produce neurotransmitters to shape your perception of the world, and in fact there's no boundary to "you" and no self at all...
In either case the body is just as important to your experience of reality as the brain; so, care for it well, and enjoy it, lift and get jacked if you can, and you can have just as much fun as your intellectual superiors who work all the time and are thin and weak
As to what remains to your low IQ incel life, the old sayings about "there's no point to life, its about the experience" is retarded for those of intellectual value but actually true for midwits like yourself. Don't worry too much about some transcendent contribution to mankind that you're not capable of, just have a good time and try to enjoy yourself while you're here while being generally polite and not making things shittier for others.
Have you tried drugs? Risk/reward can be tough but if frying your brain and losing a few IQ points doesn't matter they are awesome
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:03:03 UTC No. 16285680
>>16285415
I just can't get myself to do anything because I'm lazy and I can't justify doing anything because every train of thought comes to the conclusion that everything is pointless.
Does that make me low iq bros?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:07:56 UTC No. 16285685
>>16285677
>wrong and irrational
Great, we got one of those Chalmers fags
Maybe I'll try them later in life, but pushing myself below the threshold of disability sooner rather than later sounds like a bad idea
Being a mid/dimwit means you're that much closer to it. For now it'll have to be the safe, boring kind of hedonism
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:09:50 UTC No. 16285688
>>16285677
Pretend you could replace one part of your body with someone else's part, instantly, and with no complications.
What happens to the person who replaces their brain? Are they still going to act the same, have the same memories, be the same person?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:10:52 UTC No. 16285693
>>16285415
>As we know, IQ is a strong predictor of financial success, self esteem, and confidence
"We" know? You mean you ignorant retards who believe everything they are told?
>Wealth
It'a mostly generational and is usually earned by those who engaged in satanic shit like political corruption and such
>Self esteem
>Confidence
>Determined by IQ
Have you ever set foot outside your house? The retards are easily the most confident since every decision they take is based on very simple axioms, feelings and peer pressure. There is 0 risk of overcalculation or self doubt.
>I just can't grasp more advanced problems instantly like others can, and my memory's shot.
Like others??? Who??? Of course those chinks doing math around the clock will get some problems faster, but that doesn't mean they can solve every single type of problem in 1 nanosecond.
You're fine, your only problem is that you sound too much like a depressed indian and don't want to unfuck your life.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:10:56 UTC No. 16285694
>>16285680
Yes. If you spent the time you spent waffling actually being productive, you could be reaping the rewards now. It's just irrational behavior. High IQ people have more motivation and more self assurance.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:17:03 UTC No. 16285701
>>16285694
Yeah but the rewards seem pointless too.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:19:24 UTC No. 16285707
>>16285693
https://www.spring.org.uk/2023/12/s
It's not rocket science. High IQ->academic success->self confidence
vs low iq->repeated failures->low self esteem
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:23:15 UTC No. 16285713
>>16285688
They will act differently, have different memories, because their behavior is a product of interaction with the environment that is interfaced through the neural system and swapping out the biggest piece of hardware is going to affect the system processes a lot
Philosophically you may argue whether it's still the same person, from a simple descriptive standpoint it's the same person with a different brain, that's how we'd refer to them
If you believe identity would be transferred with the brain tissue and it'd be the person whose brain it was rather than the person whose body it was, that's certainly a valid philosophical opinion but you should understand that in no way shape or form is it an empirical or scientific conclusion rather than a philosophical one
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:26:02 UTC No. 16285716
>>16285713
Person A takes person B's brain.
A, before the procedure, says his name is A
Afterward, once he gets B's brain, would he be more likely to say his name is A or is B?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:43:23 UTC No. 16285740
>>16285586
well said anon
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:45:10 UTC No. 16285745
>>16285693
you are one stupid mother fucker
if you believe satanic power is why people are rich you are appealing to an extreme like a low iq conspiracy theorist nigger
selling your soul worked
but not anymore
keep coping
iq is a better predictor of wealth than familial wealth
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:43:39 UTC No. 16285886
>>16285415
>what is my purpose
to do the actual important blue collar jobs and be content with terrible pay
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 02:09:08 UTC No. 16285908
>>16285481
>chunks in working memory at 20,
Couldn't be me after doing night shifts for 4 years...
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 02:21:33 UTC No. 16285913
>>16285415
>IQ is a strong predictor of financial success
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 02:40:53 UTC No. 16285937
>>16285913
I wanna know what based retard does for a living, gotta be a nepo baby
This is one of those cases where the outliers more interesting than the data
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 02:52:01 UTC No. 16285943
>>16285937
running for president in november
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:31:57 UTC No. 16286332
President of the US?
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 09:41:40 UTC No. 16286612
How do we cope with the upcoming competency crisis?
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:34:38 UTC No. 16287331
>>16285548
I am in uni passed cal 1 like a boss
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:53:28 UTC No. 16287363
>>16286612
By pretending nothing's wrong but also allocating more manpower to the same problems
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:56:41 UTC No. 16287437
Being an oldfag and knowing I'm only going to get stupider is depressing. Seeing young, quick witted people only reminds me of how little I can compete. Oldfags, how do you cope with the loss of your limited cognitive skills?