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Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:55:01 UTC No. 16289994
I suspect that most zoomers will fail the Sally-Anne test. Have there been any studies on this?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:03:12 UTC No. 16290002
Nothing to do with age, just IQ and awareness.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:09:51 UTC No. 16290009
>>16289994
ezpz sally will look in to the box
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:11:41 UTC No. 16290012
>>16289994
Change Anne's name to Laquaisha.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:16:45 UTC No. 16290022
>>16290017
this isn't one of those happy merchant memes is it?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:18:45 UTC No. 16290026
>>16290022
well, a "happy merchant" invented the test. But his methodology wasn't sound as people and especially kids could literally misunderstand the question. The question in the initial study posed wasn't "Where will Sally look for the marble?". The question was: "Where will SHE look for the marble?"
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:24:31 UTC No. 16290034
If Anne is not a nigger or a jew, she would look in her basket.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:26:08 UTC No. 16290036
>>16290026
>Panel has only Sally in it
>”Where will she look for the marble?”
>Retards: That wasn’t clear enough
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:30:46 UTC No. 16290038
>>16289994
Why is this a test? Why would Sally not search her basket first?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:31:56 UTC No. 16290039
>>16289994
>12 of the 14 children with Down Syndrome (86%) answered the Belief Question correctly. However, only four of the 20 children with Autism (20%) answered correctly
tfw literal retards outperform autists
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:32:29 UTC No. 16290041
>>16290036
>Retards: That wasn’t clear enough
Yes, and now you can think how the very influential idea of mind blindness in autism rests on our merchant testing kids with an IQ of 30. It's garbage. The results were clear already before the tests were even conducted.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:34:01 UTC No. 16290043
>>16290039
>tfw literal retards outperform autists
14 year-old Downies vs. 8-year-old severely intellectually disabled autistics who couldn't use language. At some point, you're simply functioning lower than a Downie. Nothing about some mind blindness module.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:44:06 UTC No. 16290060
Can someone unironically explain why sally wouldn't search the box first, since that's where the marble is in?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:50:58 UTC No. 16290067
>>16290060
>Can someone unironically explain why sally wouldn't search the box first, since that's where the marble is in?
Unironically Sally would search the box first. She doesn't need to search the basket at all because she can already see it's empty.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:51:24 UTC No. 16290072
>>16290060
>Can someone unironically explain why sally wouldn't search the box first, since that's where the marble is in?
The idea is that the test would measure someone's ability to read the mind of others. A kid is supposed to answer with "in the basket", because Sally wouldn't know that Anne put the marble in the box. The average kid is expected to draw that conclusion by the age of 4 or 5 or so.
Problem is that this test has actually nothing to do with mind-reading. It is a mere test of contextual comprehension. And if you take a bunch of kids who are already slow to begin with and have enormous difficulties with comprehending language, then you're bound to have a bunch of kids who point to the right box, but don't understand the context of the test. It's not that hard to see. Someone repeated the exact same test with cameras instead of people, and apparently, as soon as you switched dolls with cameras, 90 % or so of the "autistics" got the test right.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:54:36 UTC No. 16290078
>>16290060
OH NO NO NO NO
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:56:15 UTC No. 16290081
>>16290067
There’s a blanket covering the basket, she would look in the last place she put it.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:58:37 UTC No. 16290084
>>16290034
You’re the definition of white nigger
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:01:30 UTC No. 16290087
>>16290072
Sally and Anne are clearly acquainted, so Sally knows Anne is hopelessly envious, thievish and shamelessly greedy.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:02:37 UTC No. 16290088
>>16290084
the n word is racist
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:08:22 UTC No. 16290094
Both are wrong, Sally has recorded the whole incident on cctv, she will use this eidence to finally have the known ball thief Anne tried and convicted.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:14:30 UTC No. 16290099
>>16289994
This is like the end of that oil movie.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:31:21 UTC No. 16290119
>>16289994
most people in general would fail this
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 22:11:00 UTC No. 16290155
>>16290072
yeah when i was doing this i thought to myself the obvious answer would be the basket but kids have theory of mind so it would actually be the box because sally knew that she left anne alone with her (sally's) marble, and anne would more likely than not do something
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 22:20:18 UTC No. 16290163
anybody who believes that there is a right or wrong answer has failed the test. anybody who believes there is a test has failed the test. anybody who believes that questions correspond to answers has failed the test. anybody who believes has failed the test. anybody who fails the test has passed the test. anybody who has passed the test has failed the test.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:03:13 UTC No. 16290217
Boxfags BTFO
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:12:38 UTC No. 16290233
Anne is a based and boxpilled marblemaxxer. Basketcels keep seething.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 06:23:23 UTC No. 16290506
>>16290017
exactly, why would Anna do that, and what's with this stupid "puzzle" attempting to instill distrust and paranoia?
Whoever came up with that needs to get their head checked, much trauma they harbor in them.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 06:29:29 UTC No. 16290515
>>16290155
>sally knew that she left anne alone with her (sally's) marble, and anne would more likely than not do something
Poor Sally, many such cases.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 11:23:24 UTC No. 16290729
>anne looks Jewish
>Sally being the smart White supremacist she is would instinctively understand that the jew would try to jew her out of her possessions
ergo Sally would immediately look into the box with zero immediate logical causes except prejudice. And she would be right and her prejudice justified.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 20:02:04 UTC No. 16291321
>>16290036
Well, in terms of little kids, if you would watch Dora the Explorer for example and the show would ask you where should Sally look for marble than the question will be asked from the perspective of your knowledge as a viewer, not from the perspective of Sally's knowledge. Kids are more used to this kind of interactions with media, therefore they will most likely misunderstand the question. If you are an adult and you fail the test then you are either autistic or severely retarded.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 20:24:10 UTC No. 16291375
>>16291321
Interesting theory, did they do a study to see if watching Dora the Explorer or similar shows will lower success rates at this task?
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:20:47 UTC No. 16291521
>>16289994
She'll look in the basket. She doesn't know it was moved.
I agree as well. Zoomers have brain damage and lack a theory of mind. I'm a solipsist and even I see this.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:21:49 UTC No. 16291522
>>16290038
If you have a functioning theory of mind, then yes, Sally would search where she last knew the marble to be. If you don't, then you'll assume Sally knows what you and Anne know, and that she would immedaitely go to the box.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:25:15 UTC No. 16291528
>>16290729
Sally would also realize that Anne would take her marble due to the confusion created by watching the local tribe mohel perform genital mutilation, if Sally were intelligent. Unfortunately Sally is not, because she's white, and not Jewish. And everyone knows that Jews can think like whites, but not the other way around.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:35:50 UTC No. 16291543
>>16290072
But the marble is in the box. Why would she look for it where it isn't?
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:49:05 UTC No. 16291559
>>16291543
Interesting. Every MSNBC / CNN / NPR cable TV cultist would fail this test for exactly the same reason. The test is more useful than I originally thought.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 00:00:11 UTC No. 16291620
>>16291543
NPC DETECTED
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 07:21:50 UTC No. 16291873
>>16291321
>the question will be asked from the perspective of your knowledge as a viewer
That makes no sense. Assuming the kid knows what the word “she” means, there’s no way they can misunderstand what’s being asked.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 07:29:09 UTC No. 16291876
>>16291521
I don’t think zoomers will necessarily fail this test specifically, but on some level they do.
Ie, they’ll just start talking about some niche topic in a distinct situation, assuming the other person already knows what they’re talking about.
Maybe it is due to the fact that they were born after modern internet was a thing, so they think that any news about Taylor Swift is known worldwide by all 8 billion people in the World. They don’t understand that the algorithm they see on their social media is not the same for everyone else.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:44:24 UTC No. 16291976
>>16289994
Sally will search the box because she read a certain diary and thus knows that anyone called Anne is a lying bitch.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 15:55:15 UTC No. 16292248
>>16291876
They understand, they just don't care.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 03:27:07 UTC No. 16293043
>Turbo autists think they are smart for failing an incredibly simple Theory of Mind test
You need le evil ABA
ABA is our civilization's savior
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:23:18 UTC No. 16293230
>>16289994
The folds of the cloth which the basket was covered with looked slightly different when she left it, it looks unnatural for wind so she should know someone at least looked into the basket
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:57:38 UTC No. 16293247
>>16290163
lol
>>16293230
you likely wont notice at first
>>16290087
>>16290155
reading too much into it between the lines inventing ideas that do not exist in the scenario
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 10:03:25 UTC No. 16293254
>>16290072
>soon as you switched dolls with cameras, 90 % or so of the "autistics" got the test right.
wtf
autists are inherently technology-minded? paranoid? maybr cameras signal visual knowledge or informatiom to them better?
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 10:30:13 UTC No. 16293280
>>16290039
Stronger autism in that case than asperger's, I have it and didn't have to think twice
Cult of Passion at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 11:35:20 UTC No. 16293318
>>16293043
Cut flower politics is exactly that.
Womp womp, literal PhDs failing this.
Thats also exactly what happened after Jesus, about 40 years (when all the knowers are out of society are replaced with people that see no value in the thing keeping society coherent).
Temple fell. For further research on this topic the Bret Weinstein and Heather Hayens discusses this a fair amount.
Womp womp again because WOMP FUCKING WOMP.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 20:17:16 UTC No. 16293873
>>16293247
>reading too much into it
i'm pretty sure that's the point of the experiment