🧵 What causes CFS/ME?
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:02:15 UTC No. 16292787
And what is the cure for it?
Seems pretty horrific, and it feels absurd that The Medical Community and The Science are just content with shrugging their shoulders and saying "we don't know, oh well lol".
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:06:48 UTC No. 16292791
>What causes CFS/ME?
the covid vax
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:12:58 UTC No. 16292801
>>16292791
>Maeve Boothby-O’Neill, 27...died at home in Exeter, Devon, in October 2021.
>She had been suffering from fatigue since the age of 13, [around 2007]
>which got worse after she completed her A-levels [most likely around 2012]
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:20:46 UTC No. 16292820
>>16292801
>smoking causes cancer
>noooo, there have been cases of cancer before cigarettes were invented, therefore you're wrong
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:40:33 UTC No. 16292831
>>16292787
it's just depression kickstarted by getting sick removing most of the common coping mechanisms.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 00:48:38 UTC No. 16292920
>>16292831
wat
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 01:00:52 UTC No. 16292923
>>16292787
If she couldn't chew why didn't her monther feed her the cream?
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 01:07:39 UTC No. 16292926
>>16292923
maybe she was worried about the high saturated fat intake
gotta stay healthy!
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:12:00 UTC No. 16293524
>>16292831
Anti-depressants don’t work in CFS though.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:15:42 UTC No. 16293528
>>16292787
It’s something intracellular, that’s for sure.
That’s why it’s so hard to find a detailed explanation and associated treatment.
It’s either some kind of (mutated form?) virus with almost purely intracellular cycle or a metabolic disfunction inside the cell triggered by an infection / overexertion.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:20:12 UTC No. 16293539
>chronic fatigue
Literally a made up female disease
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:21:56 UTC No. 16293543
>>16293539
20-40% of people with CFS are men.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:31:22 UTC No. 16293555
>>16293539
Thank you for defending Pfizer. 10 social credit points have been added to your CBDC digital identity wallet.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 17:13:10 UTC No. 16293615
>>16292787
>CFS/ME
Doesn't exist. It's just women being hysterical, as usual.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 17:55:50 UTC No. 16293677
>>16293615
The Pfizer stock is really struggling now, isn't it?
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:02:42 UTC No. 16293683
>>16293677
Get this chump, shilling for the medico-industrial complex. Literally just medicalizing being sleepy. Bro, get out more.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:23:05 UTC No. 16293706
>>16293524
Anti-depressants work on a good portion of depression cases either.
Specific anti-depressants work for specific kinds of depression. Depression is a wide range of disorders with similar symptoms.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:33:06 UTC No. 16293718
>>16293706
Tbh I had depression earlier in my life, now I have ME/CFS.
At least from an internal perspective, these two conditions don’t feel much, if anything, like each other.
I don’t feel sad (let alone suicidal) with CFS. I’m only frustrated that it limits my ability to do things because I sleep much of the day and have trouble staying awake for the rest of it. Think of not sleeping for 3 days straight but it never goes away. With depression, one just gives up on everything. With CFS you try your best to do stuff, it’s just you don’t have the energy to.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:35:04 UTC No. 16293723
>>16293718
The most common pathology is depression is precisely what you described with CFS.
You can't do shit, except sleep.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:37:48 UTC No. 16293728
>>16293706
Your pills don't do shit, pharma shill.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:40:04 UTC No. 16293733
>>16293723
Idk, maybe I’m focusing on my individual case too much and you’re onto something, I’ll think it through later. Maybe it could be a “depression without the mood part”.
My point was that from an external point of view, the symptoms may look the same but when viewed internally, be caused by two different factors.
I.e. I’m inactive because I feel like it doesn’t matter if I am vs I’m inactive because I lack energy to do so / have trouble staying awake.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:42:13 UTC No. 16293738
>>16293723
Depression is a symptom, not the cause.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:43:42 UTC No. 16293740
>>16293728
I am sorry for your experience, depression is a complicated and difficult condition to treat.
Recovery usually only happens through lifestyle change, medication is meant to aid in that process. It is not a cure. If doctors misuse the medication, you should discuss it with them.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 19:02:21 UTC No. 16293770
>>16292787
Its just brain damage.
All feelings and sensations are created in the brain. This includes the feeling of being tired. A whacky brain can simply keep the tired signal turned on all the time, its like those people that have chronic pain that just never goes away, the brain just decided to feel pain on a permanent basis. Normal? No, thats what brain diseases are
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 19:43:01 UTC No. 16293824
>>16293770
You can as well say that about depression and that it’s a brain locked in its *very* sad state.
There are meds to break that lock-in though. There aren’t any for CFS.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 19:47:28 UTC No. 16293829
>>16293824
Depression has nothing to do with sadness.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 19:51:27 UTC No. 16293838
>>16292787
>woman moment
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 19:54:12 UTC No. 16293847
>>16293829
That’s literally THE thing defining it.
And other symptoms stem from it.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 20:58:53 UTC No. 16293924
>>16292787
Strong, white genes right there.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jul 2024 21:41:31 UTC No. 16293975
>>16293847
no, the key symptom of depression is fatigue
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 14:54:39 UTC No. 16294765
>>16293975
That’s simply not true. Look up any medical definition of depression.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:18:56 UTC No. 16294788
>>16292787
Serious answer here, as I had a temporary version of it two weeks ago. Let me set the stage
>Deadlift what should've been a light weight for me
>Feel shooting pains everywhere
>Can't replicate feeling immediately after
>Finish workout anyway with pulling exercises
>Rest of day and next three days on deaths door
>No energy
>Constant fatigue
>No appetite
>Entire nervous system feels shut down
>Hands and forearm spontaneous shooting pains
>Sleeping almost all day
>Constant chills despite 90F + 100% humidity
>In sweater and sweatpants, sleeping with comforter
>Felt like flu fatigue without viral symptoms
>Felt like neuropathy from consuming too much alcohol, trying to wobbly walk
I'm 95% confident it was CNS fatigue, and in my research found that CNS fatigue was related to chronic fatigue syndrome
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cen
My friend claims to have it and his symptoms matched mine, and muscle biopsies indicated his muscles were fine. People often call it psychosomatic, and I believe that is what spirals it into chronic symptoms. But at its core, having experienced it a temporary version, I'm 100% convinced it is related to CNS shutdown. It's often acquired after your body fights a virus, and I suppose your body is just so fuckin bitch made that the fatigue inflicted on your CNS never went away (that is, maybe psychosomatically you never recovered).
With CNS fatigue it's a survival mechanism to shut down your body while overtraining. I suspect chronic fatigue syndrome is when your body gets sick, and your body has to shutdown other processes to combat the virus, and you fail to ever recover for either psychological reasons or autoimmune genetic reasons.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:22:16 UTC No. 16294793
>>16294788
>CNS Fatigue
Sounds like an illness made up by feminized men. The west is sick, and this is proof.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:24:05 UTC No. 16294796
>>16293539
>die
>lmao you made it up
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:25:24 UTC No. 16294797
>>16294796
>Die
>Of CFS
lol. No one has ever died of CFS.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:27:16 UTC No. 16294801
>>16294793
If you worked out seriously you'd know it's a real thing, retard. But you don't workout at all, so you don't even know what doms feels like, let alone what it is.
B00T at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:28:35 UTC No. 16294804
>>16294801
And you don't know what subs feel like fag
Get the fuck off mah sci
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:29:02 UTC No. 16294806
>>16294801
>Being this defensive over an internet post
The amount of estrogen in your blood is probably on par with biological females.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:29:38 UTC No. 16294809
>>16294793
>Working out until your body literally shuts down is feminine
?????????
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:30:19 UTC No. 16294810
>>16294809
>Lift 80lbs
>I lift soooooo much.
B00T at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:30:35 UTC No. 16294811
>>16294809
Yeah but no.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:33:45 UTC No. 16294815
>>16294810
>>16294811
Fat fags lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:38:56 UTC No. 16294823
>>16294815
>Be posting online
>Need to post a picture of yourself becomes impossible to ignore
>Just have to do it
>Have to pooooost
The feminization of the west continues unabashed.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:43:59 UTC No. 16294827
>>16294823
Tell the audience what masculinity is, And how your behavior is allegedly masculine. I'm not talking about this thread. What do you do in life that you allege is masculine.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:45:36 UTC No. 16294828
>>16294827
>Feminized male, after proving themselves to be feminized, starts to accuse others of actually being feminized.
Typical woman behavior.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 18:32:54 UTC No. 16295004
>>16294788
You had COVID dumbass it doesn't have real respiratory symptoms anymore
>COVID wuz fake
No, it was a very real bioweapon
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:21:05 UTC No. 16296027
>>16295004
Don’t spread dangerous conspiracy theories
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:30:37 UTC No. 16296033
>>16296027
https://www.city-journal.org/articl
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:44:54 UTC No. 16296040
>>16296033
It was a joke lol