🧵 Peer review is failing
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:05:27 UTC No. 16296610
https://www.firstprinciples.com/art
>Things are so bad that a new world record was set in 2023: more than 10,000 research papers were retracted from academic journals.
>The numbers don’t lie: Scientific publishing has a problem, and it’s getting worse
>peer review is a broken system that needs its own honest review.
>The scale is impossible. Let’s do the math: 3 million peer-reviewed papers published every year, multiply those by two-to-three reviewers, times four-to-eight hours per reviewer… that math doesn’t work. Yet we persist in this dreamlike fantasy that somehow peer review is going to ensure quality.
>The fragility of the peer review system were spotlighted in the 2013 “Who’s Afraid of Peer Review” affair, in which science journalist John Bohannon created “a scientific version of Mad Libs” — a nonsense paper that was accepted by 157 of 255 pay-to-publish open-access journals (an acceptance rate of 60 percent).
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:08:07 UTC No. 16296612
>>16296610
Did you know most of those retractions came from China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Russia. If we excluded those counties from western journals it would be a net positive.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:18:33 UTC No. 16296626
>>16296612
Fuck off you stupid jew.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:20:34 UTC No. 16296629
>>16296612
Don't be racist. Everyone's equally likely to to have retractable papers.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 06:19:32 UTC No. 16296991
>>16296610
>Scientific publishing has a problem
obviously, as long as scientists have to work for money, there will be fraud, as there is in anything else that humans do.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 20:15:54 UTC No. 16297823
>>16296629
People who are under greater pressure to publish, especially if their results are shit, are more likely to write bad papers which will are likely to be retracted. Race doesn't matter but culture is important.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 20:24:37 UTC No. 16297837
Well on the good news side, they'll probably start running them through an LLM soon that checks if its ridiculous or bad on the surface level.
So there will be SOME kind of review rather than none.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 20:48:30 UTC No. 16297876
>>16297837
... surely nothing can go wrong
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 22:25:16 UTC No. 16297993
>>16297823
>Race doesn't matter
yes it does.
the replication crisis coincides with a dramatic increase in the number of nonwhites publishing
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 19:47:43 UTC No. 16299335
peer review is for people who presume that useless academic schoolteachers are their equals
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:53:02 UTC No. 16300789
>>16299335
>My paper and my opinions are valid because some retard who earns less than a truck drive said so
This is what scientists actually believe
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 05:35:21 UTC No. 16301455
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the pig race.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:08:16 UTC No. 16302707
>>16301455
they seem to be doing fine, they still have the motivation and ability to adapt to their environment and pass their genetics on to subsequent generations, which is more than you can say for the soience nerds
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 03:34:15 UTC No. 16302797
>>16296610
The only reason peer review is failing is because we stupidly allowed non-whites into STEM.
>>16297823
Culture is downstream of race, you nigger loving faggot.
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 06:33:26 UTC No. 16304295
>>16302797
peer review happened subsequently to letting in the shitskins. first they lets the jews (jews are shitskins) in the door, then the jews conspired to get the rules changed
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 05:14:37 UTC No. 16305510
>>16299335
>peer review is for people who presume that useless academic schoolteachers are their equals
Imaging willingly equating yourself to the frauds who created the replication crisis
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 09:07:20 UTC No. 16306778
>>16302707
lol
scientists fuck dogs
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Aug 2024 05:44:39 UTC No. 16308150
>>16296991
Thats not whats behind the problem. Scientists have always had to work for their wages, but the replication crisis only got kicked into full swing in the 1990s. Why didn't the same problems plaguing peer review currently hampered and stymied science in earlier eras, how come science made massive progress in the 1700s & 1800s and came to a halt in the later part of the 1900s?
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Aug 2024 15:04:55 UTC No. 16308527
>>16296610
The original updoot powermodding system
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 04:42:52 UTC No. 16309407
>>16305510
I enjoyed triggering just about everyone at university by referring to the """esteemed professors""" as "teachers"
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 07:24:43 UTC No. 16309532
Anonymous at Mon, 5 Aug 2024 03:25:44 UTC No. 16310519
>>16309532
sure would be nice if AI software really worked like that and wasn't just another soiyence psyop
Anonymous at Mon, 5 Aug 2024 03:30:01 UTC No. 16310523
>>16296610
That's what happens when narrative and agenda are promoted in order to maintain funding over truth and science.
I'm not sure what the hell people were expecting?
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 03:39:46 UTC No. 16311743
>>16310519
Interesting, mine gives a better and closer to accurate answer, except for saying Trump was unharmed
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 03:47:47 UTC No. 16311750
>>16296610
>the 2013 “Who’s Afraid of Peer Review” affair
Anyone know where to find a copy of one of the actual fake papers he submitted, under the name Ocorrafoo Cobange?
There's a lot of articles out there about what John Bohannon did, but the paper itself remains elusive
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 22:31:13 UTC No. 16312705
>>16308150
Scientists were white male and Christian in the in 1700s & 1800s
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 23:16:45 UTC No. 16312749
>>16312705
Scientists were also condemned by the Christian church in that time.
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 23:03:00 UTC No. 16314261
>>16312749
No they weren't. The great scientist of the 1700s & 1800s were all devout Christians. Their adherence to Christianity was the key to their success.
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 19:22:47 UTC No. 16315512
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 19:29:21 UTC No. 16315517
>>16296612
>Nothing to see here. It's just a couple of undergrads, in a few departments, at a handful of schools. Just ignore it and it will go away.
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 00:56:51 UTC No. 16315988
>>16296612
You left out india.
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 00:58:37 UTC No. 16315992
>>16296629
>Everyone's equally likely to to have retractable papers.
Proof? Is this another "everybody's equally likely to pass an IQ test"-tier of magical thinking?
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 01:00:32 UTC No. 16315996
>>16296626
>>16297993
>anti-christian shilling
>race doesn't matter
>jeet shilling
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 01:10:02 UTC No. 16316003
>>16315512
>and therefore condemning scientists is right!
eh?
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 02:55:55 UTC No. 16316197
>>16315988
>>nigger can't search number of retracted papers by countries
of countries with the number of retreated papers is shown in Fig. 3a. Authors from China have higher retractions (25.7%), followed by the USA (16.1%), India (5.3%), Japan (5.2%), Iran (4.4%), Germany (3.2%), England (2.8%), South Korea (2.6%), Italy (2.4%) and so on
https://www.researchgate.net/figure
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 03:52:06 UTC No. 16316253
>>16296610
Just got my third paper accepted - total review and revision time was five months, but the feedback from the reviewers was through, professional, and all of the points that they brought up were completely reasonable.
I think the success or failure of peer review comes down entirely to
a) whether the author wants to publish good research or just any research
b) whether the reviewers want to provide good feedback or just any feedback
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 04:03:47 UTC No. 16316260
>>16316253
you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 04:14:18 UTC No. 16316264
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 07:16:25 UTC No. 16316427
>>16316197
>USA (16.1%)
IIRC, two largest international student population in our institutions are Chinese and Indians by a large margin, and very close in numbers also.
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 03:37:44 UTC No. 16318144
>>16316197
Does the USA stat have a breakdown by race and religious affiliation?
Anonymous at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 06:06:14 UTC No. 16319561
>>16318144
tsmt
Anonymous at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 17:11:55 UTC No. 16320215
i noticed this as an educated person ... is that university doesn't give the highly educated an opportunity to mate.
they also created horrible things like guns and condoms so that we have no opportunities.
im nearly 30 and ive reached top surgeon and literally at my peak yet there are no cute virgin women left. i am a virgin myself -
shame that the intelligent die out to the highly populosu