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Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:12:31 UTC No. 16299075
How do I conceptualize or "imagine" probabilities that are outside the 0 to 1 range ?
How do you picture negative, higher than 1 , complex or other forms of non-real probability?
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:53:20 UTC No. 16299115
>>16299075
If you have a rigged coin, probability that it will land on the other side will be subtracted. I am not sure if a greater than 1 probability really means anything different. If you have a coin that is rigged with a weight and also some kind of magnet on top of it, the combination isn't going to improve odds beyond certainty.
There might be some kind of weird double probability game take something like backgammon where landing doubles doubles your moves. Something like this could exist where extra rolls are given or something.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:04:04 UTC No. 16299127
>The probability of an impossible event is 0 and the probability of a certain event is 1. The range of possible probabilities is: 0 ≤ P ( A ) ≤ 1 . It is not possible to have a probability less than 0 or greater than 1.
Took me like a 5 second google search. But I'm sure a genius like you could have done that by yourself too, if he weren't busy posting pseudo intellectual nonsense on an taiwanese yarn weaving forum.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:09:02 UTC No. 16299133
>>16299127
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mea
just go fuck yourself
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:10:32 UTC No. 16299134
>>16299133
>wokepedos
>>16299127
google-fu
Neck when?
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:13:31 UTC No. 16299138
Not him but
/Exotic_probability
>Saul Youssef (page does not exist)
>"Such approaches are also not necessary and in my opinion they confuse more than they illuminate."
/Negative_probability
>The probability of the outcome of an experiment is never negative
/Measure_(mathematics)
Really?
Perhaps the directive for self-fucking applies to you and no one else
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:14:21 UTC No. 16299139
>>16299134
>look at meeee im so smrrt bcuz I dnt use le jewgle
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:16:39 UTC No. 16299141
>>16299127
why are there people like this faggot in this board? how the fuck do these retards find this board?
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:17:49 UTC No. 16299142
>>16299141
>t. Saul Youssef (my page does not exist)
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:21:04 UTC No. 16299147
>>16299133
From your article "Exotic probabilities":
>Of the application of such theories to quantum mechanics, Bill Jefferys has said: "Such approaches are also not necessary and in my opinion they confuse more than they illuminate."
Even fucking wikipedia editors dunk on you, exotic probability chuds. Take the L, leave this thread and go calculate imaginary numbers in the 16th dimension or some bullshit.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:22:40 UTC No. 16299149
>>16299147
The article "Negative probability" literally says that probability is never negative in its first sentence.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:26:15 UTC No. 16299152
Usually negative values are a representation artifact. For example, in the Wigner quasiprobability distribution you need negative values for the "probability density" to write some density matrices, but the actual calculated probability of an event is a real number between 0 and 1. The presence of a negative value indicates some "quantumness" of the state, tho, e.g. a superposition of coherent states will have a Wigner distribution that is negative in a region of the phase-space. The quantum properties in this case can be observed measuring correlation functions of the field
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:26:28 UTC No. 16299153
>>16299147
These exotic probabilities are currently being used in many fields if you cared to actually look into it instead of trying to argue online. If you dont care about the subject fuck off. In the same links I posted you can read about their practical use. Also part of the fun is thinking about such concepts is to challenge our perception but Im sure that has never been of interest to you
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:31:48 UTC No. 16299157
>>16299152
Imagine using the reduced constant rather than simply reducing the integral. Garbage.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:33:46 UTC No. 16299159
Test
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 19:30:29 UTC No. 16299304
>>16299075
use finite state machine graphs.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:31:54 UTC No. 16300285
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:58:11 UTC No. 16300437
>>16299134
>um ackshually math is bad if its on wikipedia
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:37:35 UTC No. 16301017
negative probabilities denote interference phenomena
i.e. probability flux between incompatible contexts
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:04:04 UTC No. 16301279
>>16300437
Wikipedia not an authority on any topic, but instead, remains an anti-authority by being government funded shill farm. Like reddit.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:10:22 UTC No. 16301288
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:14:16 UTC No. 16301290
>>16301288
Wikipedia is a scam filled with bots pushing agendas. Like reddit.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:20:57 UTC No. 16301295
>>16301290
that doesn't change the math regardless, go be a niggerbrain somewhere else.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:23:09 UTC No. 16301296
>>16301295
What university teaches math from wikipedia?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:39:20 UTC No. 16301583
>>16301296
What Wikipedia articles have math that isn't in concordance with the texts that a university would use?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:20:51 UTC No. 16301618
OP, it's easy.
>stand a few meters in front of the barrel of a loaded rifle and have someone pull the trigger. probability of getting shot? 1.0
>repeat, except with double-barrel shotgun. probability of getting shot? 2.0
there, u has exotic probability example
>t. actual genius from /k/
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:25:39 UTC No. 16301722
>>16301583
Wikipedia doesn't cite itself, but it can cite textbooks. This indicates that all wikipedia articles do not meet the necessary standard according to wikipedia itself.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:44:08 UTC No. 16301919
>>16301618
>/k/
>genius
The board of "Protein Brownies" and making mustard gas in your bathroom is anything but
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:05:03 UTC No. 16301942
negative probabilities exist in QM
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 07:37:17 UTC No. 16302929
>>16299133
interesting, thanks
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 07:57:46 UTC No. 16302937
>>16299133
wouldn't negative probabilities of quantum effects represent the impossible outcomes that lie beyond the wave function? In other words, the complement set of the wave function?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:45:08 UTC No. 16303013
>>16302937
When it occurs it means that your theory is junk
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:48:43 UTC No. 16303019
The face on the left side opposite to the first face implies 'thats good'. After cycling round the first face. The rest is up to you
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:10:40 UTC No. 16303205
>>16303013
>theory
it's definitely not a theory, not even a hypothesis.