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Anonymous No. 16299075

How do I conceptualize or "imagine" probabilities that are outside the 0 to 1 range ?

How do you picture negative, higher than 1 , complex or other forms of non-real probability?

Anonymous No. 16299115

>>16299075
If you have a rigged coin, probability that it will land on the other side will be subtracted. I am not sure if a greater than 1 probability really means anything different. If you have a coin that is rigged with a weight and also some kind of magnet on top of it, the combination isn't going to improve odds beyond certainty.
There might be some kind of weird double probability game take something like backgammon where landing doubles doubles your moves. Something like this could exist where extra rolls are given or something.

Anonymous No. 16299127

>The probability of an impossible event is 0 and the probability of a certain event is 1. The range of possible probabilities is: 0 ≤ P ( A ) ≤ 1 . It is not possible to have a probability less than 0 or greater than 1.
Took me like a 5 second google search. But I'm sure a genius like you could have done that by yourself too, if he weren't busy posting pseudo intellectual nonsense on an taiwanese yarn weaving forum.

Anonymous No. 16299133

>>16299127
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_probability

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_probability

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)


just go fuck yourself

Anonymous No. 16299134

>>16299133
>wokepedos
>>16299127
google-fu
Neck when?

Anonymous No. 16299138

Not him but
/Exotic_probability
>Saul Youssef (page does not exist)
>"Such approaches are also not necessary and in my opinion they confuse more than they illuminate."
/Negative_probability
>The probability of the outcome of an experiment is never negative
/Measure_(mathematics)
Really?
Perhaps the directive for self-fucking applies to you and no one else

Anonymous No. 16299139

>>16299134
>look at meeee im so smrrt bcuz I dnt use le jewgle

Anonymous No. 16299141

>>16299127
why are there people like this faggot in this board? how the fuck do these retards find this board?

Anonymous No. 16299142

>>16299141
>t. Saul Youssef (my page does not exist)

Anonymous No. 16299147

>>16299133
From your article "Exotic probabilities":
>Of the application of such theories to quantum mechanics, Bill Jefferys has said: "Such approaches are also not necessary and in my opinion they confuse more than they illuminate."

Even fucking wikipedia editors dunk on you, exotic probability chuds. Take the L, leave this thread and go calculate imaginary numbers in the 16th dimension or some bullshit.

Anonymous No. 16299149

>>16299147
The article "Negative probability" literally says that probability is never negative in its first sentence.

Anonymous No. 16299152

Usually negative values are a representation artifact. For example, in the Wigner quasiprobability distribution you need negative values for the "probability density" to write some density matrices, but the actual calculated probability of an event is a real number between 0 and 1. The presence of a negative value indicates some "quantumness" of the state, tho, e.g. a superposition of coherent states will have a Wigner distribution that is negative in a region of the phase-space. The quantum properties in this case can be observed measuring correlation functions of the field

Anonymous No. 16299153

>>16299147
These exotic probabilities are currently being used in many fields if you cared to actually look into it instead of trying to argue online. If you dont care about the subject fuck off. In the same links I posted you can read about their practical use. Also part of the fun is thinking about such concepts is to challenge our perception but Im sure that has never been of interest to you

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Anonymous No. 16299157

>>16299152
Imagine using the reduced constant rather than simply reducing the integral. Garbage.

Anonymous No. 16299159

Test

Anonymous No. 16299304

>>16299075
use finite state machine graphs.

Anonymous No. 16300285

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0370157386901109

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Anonymous No. 16300437

>>16299134
>um ackshually math is bad if its on wikipedia

Anonymous No. 16301017

negative probabilities denote interference phenomena

i.e. probability flux between incompatible contexts

Anonymous No. 16301279

>>16300437
Wikipedia not an authority on any topic, but instead, remains an anti-authority by being government funded shill farm. Like reddit.

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Anonymous No. 16301288

>>16301279

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Anonymous No. 16301290

>>16301288
Wikipedia is a scam filled with bots pushing agendas. Like reddit.

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Anonymous No. 16301295

>>16301290
that doesn't change the math regardless, go be a niggerbrain somewhere else.

Anonymous No. 16301296

>>16301295
What university teaches math from wikipedia?

Anonymous No. 16301583

>>16301296
What Wikipedia articles have math that isn't in concordance with the texts that a university would use?

Anonymous No. 16301618

OP, it's easy.

>stand a few meters in front of the barrel of a loaded rifle and have someone pull the trigger. probability of getting shot? 1.0

>repeat, except with double-barrel shotgun. probability of getting shot? 2.0

there, u has exotic probability example

>t. actual genius from /k/

Anonymous No. 16301722

>>16301583
Wikipedia doesn't cite itself, but it can cite textbooks. This indicates that all wikipedia articles do not meet the necessary standard according to wikipedia itself.

Anonymous No. 16301919

>>16301618
>/k/
>genius
The board of "Protein Brownies" and making mustard gas in your bathroom is anything but

Anonymous No. 16301942

negative probabilities exist in QM

Anonymous No. 16302929

>>16299133
interesting, thanks

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Anonymous No. 16302937

>>16299133
wouldn't negative probabilities of quantum effects represent the impossible outcomes that lie beyond the wave function? In other words, the complement set of the wave function?

Anonymous No. 16303013

>>16302937
When it occurs it means that your theory is junk

Anonymous No. 16303019

The face on the left side opposite to the first face implies 'thats good'. After cycling round the first face. The rest is up to you

Anonymous No. 16303205

>>16303013
>theory
it's definitely not a theory, not even a hypothesis.