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Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 21:59:04 UTC No. 16299535
Any update on NASA's Starliner debacle?
When, if ever, is it coming back? Do they have plans for alternative return method?
Any possibility SpaceX ends up having to correct NASA's mistakes?
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 22:19:59 UTC No. 16299562
>>16299535
I was watching a documentary about Ocean Gate the imploding submarine company and noticed something. The now dead CEO was bragging how Boeing and NASA helped them design the doomed sub. I laughed so hard knowing how stupid that brag sounds now. Look at these losers, trusted Boeing too.
>It's NASA+Boeing, if they say it's good....it must be good!....right?
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 22:36:20 UTC No. 16299583
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 22:52:35 UTC No. 16299601
>>16299535
It's fucked. They're leaving it up there until the public forgets about it, then they can quietly throw it away and bring the astronauts back using another capsule without losing face.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 23:23:53 UTC No. 16299645
>>16299535
>NASA's Starliner debacle
You mean Boeings Starliner debacle.
>SpaceX makes craft with NASA funding
Wow look how great SpaceX is
>Boeing makes craft with NASA funding
Look how bad NASA is
I'm sick of this propaganda, Boeing is a private corporation just like SpaceX, some private companies are good and others are shit.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:11:20 UTC No. 16299990
>>16299601
So the day after the US election.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:18:48 UTC No. 16300002
>>16299990
Maybe, claps are stupid enough to think the current president is responsible for the Commercial Crew Program started in 2011.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:24:32 UTC No. 16300005
>>16299645
You mean funding and oversight, right?
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:26:20 UTC No. 16300006
>>16300005
Is there active oversight? I know they have to make progress reports but I honestly don't know is NASA employees are in the SpaceX and Boeing factories and engineering offices.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:27:47 UTC No. 16300009
>>16300002
Has nothing to do with the Commercial Crew Program and everything to do with that will be a day when the news is wall to wall coverage of the election. If you want to do something without it getting much coverage, that's the day to do it. Are you sure you're not a malfunctioning LLM? You seem to keep missing the point of posts and just respond to keywords instead of content.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:30:02 UTC No. 16300013
>>16300009
With my vocabulary I'm more of a SLM.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:10:57 UTC No. 16300622
>>16300005
SpaceX probably had stricter oversight because they were seen as a newer, less reliable company. Boeing, being an established longtime NASA contractor, was seen as a safe bet. They were probably allowed to oversee themselves, just like what the FAA allowed them to do for the 737 MAX.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:14:18 UTC No. 16301956
>>16300622
>less reliable
they're more reliable than nasa. why is nasa giving oversight to anyone or anything? nasa is a bunch of incompetent buffoons
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:57:04 UTC No. 16302410
>>16301956
>why is nasa giving oversight to anyone or anything?
They have access to the money printer
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:02:14 UTC No. 16302420
>>16299535
They recently tested the thrusters but not in a way that really showed anything. NASA paid SpaceX to investigate emergency ISS rescue measures but they claim it's a total coincidence. NASA does not want to kill astronauts but they also don't want to embarrass Boeing. They will not be loud about it if they need rescuing. Pay attention over the next few weeks. If SpaceX Crew-9 is announced with only two astronauts, it's a rescue mission. That's how we'll know.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:24:02 UTC No. 16302509
>>16302420
>it's a rescue mission.
What are they being 'rescued' from?
It is common for astronauts to have their time in space extended.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:28:16 UTC No. 16302516
>>16302509
Serious question: what do you think you're accomplishing?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:45:55 UTC No. 16302531
>>16299535
if you go on reddit the redditors will still say that Boeing is better than muh heckin racist Elon
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:13:30 UTC No. 16302557
>>16302516
Seriously... astronauts get stranded in space all the fucking time... it is not a fucking 'rescue' mission... they could stay up there for YEARS with easy resupply.
Boeing in recent years has FAILED as an aerospace company. It lived fat on the government take, making ZERO advancement in space equipment but charging a mint for several decode old hardware designs.
And I like humor, so bite my ass!
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:41:21 UTC No. 16302580
>>16302557
You still didn't answer what you think you're accomplishing.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:22:28 UTC No. 16302721
>>16302531
>if you go on reddit
this board is full of people who will express the identical sentiment
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:03:47 UTC No. 16302868
>>16299645
And Boeing has been outed as complete shit, thinks in no small part to the disastrous policies of Jim McNerney.
>We need to cut costs
>I know, let's get rid of our most talented people!
>And let's replace them all with retarded browns!
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:16:07 UTC No. 16302875
>>16302721
reddit is a propaganda outlet posing as a social media site, the people posting the identical sentiment here are the same propagandists being paid to post that sentiment on reddit
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 06:27:27 UTC No. 16304288
>>16302557
>it is not a fucking 'rescue' mission
I can tell you're upset and that this is an emotional issue for you by your use of profanity, however you're still wrong regardless how angry you get or how much profanity you use. pic is what you look like
https://govtribe.com/award/federal-
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:26:22 UTC No. 16304513
>>16302557
>they could stay up there for YEARS with easy resupply.
they could, but that would screw up the schedule which is establish years in advance, with all of the science and crewed flights also scheduled and paid for.
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:44:27 UTC No. 16304564
>>16302557
Boeing retard employee desperately trying to shill for their shitty company by trying to act like spaceship failures are normal and stranding astronauts out of schedule is an intended objective.
FO DEI hire.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 03:10:01 UTC No. 16305405
NY Times is trying to blame SpaceX for Boeing's failure
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/26/
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 03:44:21 UTC No. 16305449
>>16299535
>Blaming NASA for Boeing's fuckup.
Go be a nigger somewhere else.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:54:44 UTC No. 16306045
>>16299535
>>16302420
Fundamental issue is teflon seals were used for the Starliner RCS thrusters which swell when in contact with propellant. Teflon has long been known as a prohibited material for this application and it should have come up during design review and testing. The helium leaks appear to be a similar case. Tells you all you need to know about the current sate of Boeing. It seems NASA did not properly supervise Boeing on the assumption they knew what they were doing much like the FAA.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 02:09:16 UTC No. 16306458
>>16299535
Latest word is better than 50% chance they come back with SpaceX, NASA is trying to sort out the internal politics since it will be very damaging to Boeing. A task award was issued to SpaceX on July 14 to study an emegency response that "isn't Starliner related" yet actually is using the cover of the previous issue with Soyuz for plausibility.
>>16306045
Samefag, it was actually Aerojet that designed the thrusters as a subcontractor.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 04:09:31 UTC No. 16306550
Imagine if they left the station and the thrusters stopped working. Then they just sat in space to die. NASA would never recover.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 04:30:36 UTC No. 16306579
>>16306045
>and it should have come up during design review and testing
oops!
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 04:57:33 UTC No. 16306603
>>16306550
The fear is the RCS thrusters won't be able to achieve/maintain the proper attitude after the main engine fires for reentry. They're literally cooked if that happens since the heat shield won't be pointed in the right direction.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 05:36:35 UTC No. 16306655
>>16306603
Aren't the capsules designed so that they aerodynamically align themselves in roughly the right way, if they happen to lose control? I believe they call it "ballistic reentry".
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 05:40:03 UTC No. 16306657
>>16306655
Unless there's another stable mode in which the non shield part enters first. Which happens to be the way they orient themselves for the deorbit burn I think.
In that case then yeah.
But I'm not sure if that's the case. Maybe the CoG is low enough that drag causes the vehicle to turn around.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 06:09:48 UTC No. 16306667
>>16306458
Hey guys, I refill the vending machines at NASA and overheard them arguing about this. The compromise is that SpaceX will fly the Boeing crew home, but the Dragon capsule will be allowed to disintegrate on the way down. SpaceX will get covered for the full cost of the flight and equipment while Boeing gets to save face. No one will get in trouble for the deaths. It will be chalked up as "one of those things that just happens sometimes".
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 06:37:19 UTC No. 16306679
>>16299562
>>16300025
>>16306579
LMAO, they will discover the hard way that cargo cult can't build shit.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 21:15:39 UTC No. 16307655
>>16299562
>documentary about Ocean Gate
Sorry, sometimes it is hard understand burger humor. That part is a total fake and the Conman promoted i must be totally protected in media because anyone with knowledge (as i) knows that. So where is the joke?
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Aug 2024 20:57:44 UTC No. 16308915
hopefully that ugly bitch stays in space forever, every day she is locked away in orbit is a day that everyone on earth is better off
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 18:21:02 UTC No. 16310003
Even if NASA decide to send a Dragon up for rescue, Starliner needs to undock first right? Isn't that a risky move already since the thrusters may fail and make Starliner uncontrollable meters from the station?
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 18:22:07 UTC No. 16310005
Trump and Musk will fix this debacle
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 19:19:42 UTC No. 16310112
Im just reading now about this story, i thought they were stuck in some Boeing rocket capsule, not on the international space station. So its a lot better for them, how boring, i thought they were going to die in some capsule spinning out of control
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 20:43:46 UTC No. 16310202
>>16310112
>they were going to die in some capsule spinning out of control
you may still get to see that if they come back on starliner
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:06:31 UTC No. 16310290
>>16310112
The NASA resupply spacecraft for ISS just failed so they might end up starving to death on the space station.
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:31:51 UTC No. 16310305
As diversity is our strength, a crack team of diverse engineers is on the case.
Anonymous at Mon, 5 Aug 2024 00:20:37 UTC No. 16310388
>>16299601
Boeing's astronauts coming back on a Starliner would end Boeing as America's most valuable aerospace company. NASA don't care.
Anonymous at Mon, 5 Aug 2024 22:30:09 UTC No. 16311445
>>16310388
I think you forgot "not"
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 01:21:04 UTC No. 16311641
>>16310003
Yes, they need to free up the port. Wouldn't be surprised if what all their "studying the problem" is about is figuring out how to dump the capsule without risk to ISS.
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 01:41:07 UTC No. 16311658
>>16310290
The ISS has plenty of food. They do however unfortunately need to continue wearing the same pants they've had on for two months now.
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 01:51:19 UTC No. 16311664
> There is also another surprising reason for the delay—the need to update Starliner’s flight software. Three separate, well-placed sources have confirmed to Ars that the current flight software on board Starliner cannot perform an automated undocking from the space station and entry into Earth’s atmosphere.
> At first blush, this seems absurd. After all, Boeing’s Orbital Flight Test 2 mission in May 2022 was a fully automated test of the Starliner vehicle. During this mission, the spacecraft flew up to the space station without crew on board and then returned to Earth six days later. Although the 2022 flight test was completed by a different Starliner vehicle, it clearly demonstrated the ability of the program's flight software to autonomously dock and return to Earth. Boeing did not respond to a media query about why this capability was removed for the crew flight test.
> It is not clear what change Boeing officials made to the vehicle or its software in the two years prior to the launch of Wilmore and Williams. It is possible that the crew has to manually press an undock button in the spacecraft, or the purely autonomous software was removed from coding on board Starliner to simplify its software package. Regardless, sources described the process to update the software on Starliner as "non-trivial" and "significant," and that it could take up to four weeks. This is what is driving the delay to launch Crew 9 later next month.
It looks like saarliner is just stuck there. ISS might just be down a dock until it deorbits
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 01:52:20 UTC No. 16311666
>>16311664
Woops wrong article
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 15:57:46 UTC No. 16312318
>>16311664
"...the current flight software on board Starliner cannot perform an automated undocking from the space station and entry into Earth’s atmosphere."
WHAT ARE YOU DOING???
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 21:46:31 UTC No. 16312657
>>16312318
They removed the automated docking software which was confirmed working last flight from this flight, because it would increase costs and complexity for OFT-3 launch. The irony is lost to Boeing.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 18:07:53 UTC No. 16313760
NASA is spending fortunes and wasting massive amounts of effort trying to delay the inevitable reentry failure and self destruction of Shartliner, which was useless and unneeded to begin with.
Just imagine how much more could be done with NASA's budget if it were all handed over to SpaceX. Doing that would allow Boeing to focus it's efforts on it's real job, building airliners.
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 18:42:01 UTC No. 16313836
>>16311672
>This is the simplest solution to get anything out of orbit
How will you balance that on the rocket motor tip when your mass center is unknown? Hope you know what happens if not.
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 19:57:08 UTC No. 16315545
>>16313760
this, nasa and boing are both useless, we don't need them, they don't do anything other than waste resources
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 20:18:16 UTC No. 16315574
>>16299535
According to an article on Ars Technica, "Three separate, well-placed sources have confirmed to Ars that the current flight software on board Starliner cannot perform an automated undocking from the space station and entry into Earth’s atmosphere." I imagine they'll bring the crew home when they patch the software. I
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 23:14:01 UTC No. 16315788
>>16299535
>Any possibility SpaceX ends up having to correct NASA's mistakes?
It's a possibility, yes.
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 00:24:30 UTC No. 16315911
>>16299535
I think the issue is that there is not enough diversity in Boeing. Hopefully more diversity is added quickly. I am told by social media that diversity fixes everything.
Social media wouldn't lie to me would they?
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 00:34:14 UTC No. 16315934
>>16311666
I love the conspicuous burn mark on the side of the capsule
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 00:36:19 UTC No. 16315942
>>16315574
And the fact that they're patching an automated reentry means Shartliner is coming home unmanned
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 17:11:48 UTC No. 16317221
>>16315942
They're patching it to destroy the evidence of what trash it is on reentry
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 10 Aug 2024 04:27:04 UTC No. 16318195
NASA is doing everything they can to keep those astronauts stranded as long as possible in order to prevent SpaceX from getting positive publicity. They're now saying it won't be until February that SpaceX will be permitted to retrieve the trapped crew.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 07:40:20 UTC No. 16319608
>>16318195
>fall for the 'be an astronaut' meme
>get cucked by nasa
Anonymous at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 07:50:05 UTC No. 16319617
>>16299535
>Do they have plans for alternative return method?
Like what? Fast roping 420 kilometers to the ground?
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 12 Aug 2024 00:08:52 UTC No. 16320693
>>16319617
they could rope down the first 400km and parachute from there
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Aug 2024 01:52:10 UTC No. 16320804
>>16302420
My prediction is fast approaching
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 13 Aug 2024 00:38:38 UTC No. 16322520
>>16320804
what was your prediction
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 05:28:35 UTC No. 16324663
>>16324038
>missing in orbit
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:43:58 UTC No. 16325275
>>16324038
I smirked at this more than I should have
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:20:03 UTC No. 16325473
>>16299535
god damn, she's so fucking ugly. Not even a mother could love that face. She looks like a fucking 80 year old indian grandma.
Dave at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:36:01 UTC No. 16325500
shit happens
Anonymous at Thu, 15 Aug 2024 00:59:43 UTC No. 16326162
>>16299535
Imagine the sex
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 15 Aug 2024 19:48:06 UTC No. 16327782
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 16 Aug 2024 18:15:53 UTC No. 16329336
>NASA: OH NO THE HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE HAS A PROBLEM!!!
>WE NEED A $4 BILLION DOLLAR EMERGENCY MISSION TO FIX IT
>also NASA: our astronauts have a problem? lets just leave them up there to rot
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:32:18 UTC No. 16330733
>>16329336
All the HST repair missions made fortunes for oldspace contractors, bringing the shartliner victims would only make profits for SpaceX
Anonymous at Sat, 17 Aug 2024 19:21:00 UTC No. 16330766
>>16306579
lol
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 01:28:26 UTC No. 16332175
>>16327782
too realistic
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 19:19:10 UTC No. 16333275
>>16306579
She is cute as a button
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 22:14:39 UTC No. 16333564
>>16322520
I replied to the post. I predicted crew 9 would launch with 2 crew and two empty chairs to serve as a rescue mission. They keep putting it off but it's looking like something they'll do
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 22:35:22 UTC No. 16333595
>>16304288
is that meant to be thunderf00t?
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:26:43 UTC No. 16335028
>>16333595
its you
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:32:38 UTC No. 16335038
>>16299535
its fucking fucked big time
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 04:58:17 UTC No. 16335621
>Boeing Starliner program manager Mark Nappi says he's not surprised that the spacecraft is stuck up there
even Boeing now admits that their product is trash
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/17/
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 02:24:12 UTC No. 16337124
>>16335621
NASA insisted on launching it anyway because they're politically motivated to use vendors other than SpaceX
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:17:58 UTC No. 16338350
I knew it was over for Boeing all the way back when they moved their HQ away from Seattle to Chicongo about 20 years ago. What do I win?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 23:17:45 UTC No. 16338695
>>16300025
>>16306679
Americans being Americans, they will never in a million years ever admit its just the fact Boeing built a plant in the south and hired mostly blacks
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 04:40:37 UTC No. 16340421
>>16333275
she is over 30 and not married. there has got to be a good reason behind that. either she smells like shit or her personality is atrociously repulsive. or maybe shes a dyke
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 05:07:58 UTC No. 16340444
>>16340421
My money is on aloof and bossy. She probably gave up on relationships after the tenth pump and dump without ever really having the introspection to understand why guys didn't want to keep her around. I've seen that pattern quite frequently with STEM girls who aren't gay.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 22:01:53 UTC No. 16342176
>>16340444
its not just the women, people in stem are generally too self centered and low iq to have any self awareness. the women might all be destined to be alcoholic cat ladies, but the men don't fare any better. they're all too busy trying to pose and prance around as to hollywood soiyence genius meme and focusing on their personal public image to ever develop a mutually satisfying relationship with another person.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:16:12 UTC No. 16343325
>>16342176
>they're all too busy trying to pose and prance around as to hollywood soiyence genius meme
Thats how they cope with necessary consequences of their disgusting "I'm too good to need to perform basic hygiene tasks, I'm too to need to exercise or dress nicely" attitudes.
>Einstein was a fat slop with messy hair so I can be like that too
>I'm such a special snowflake!!!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:03:08 UTC No. 16344670
>>16302420
>>16320804
Damn I pretty much got it
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:17:27 UTC No. 16345159
>>16299535
>Any update on NASA's Starliner debacle?
This short video explains the whole thing
Apparently it was on mishap on top of another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpd
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 04:24:44 UTC No. 16347308
>>16345159
hopefully someone makes a funny slapstick movie about it. are the guys who made Airplane! still alive?
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 23:18:58 UTC No. 16348335
>>16330766
why'd they delete him?
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 00:33:09 UTC No. 16348425
>>16330766
I dont think this team of people are really handling something so important and rigorous as space flight. Unless all the elder tier autism wizards who do the heavy lifting are off camera. I just dont believe it
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 00:41:30 UTC No. 16348435
>>16348425
>Unless all the elder tier autism wizards who do the heavy lifting are off camera.
JPL has ~6,300 employees.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 02:01:38 UTC No. 16350283
>>16348435
and none of them are competent enough to do their jobs