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Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 07:27:09 UTC No. 16300046
The JWST captured a direct image of Epsilon Indi Ab, a gas giant of 6 Jupiter masses orbiting the star Epsilon Indi A.
The star's light was blocked out by a coronagraph revealing the planet orbiting it. It is incredible that we can directly photograph planets in star systems 12 light-years away.
The planet was discovered initially in 2002 using the radial-velocity method, but the findings and measurements were different to that confirmed via direct imaging.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:03:12 UTC No. 16300066
Man, that's a big planet
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:08:20 UTC No. 16300071
If we can take such clear pictures of an exoplanet 12 LY away, why not take pictures of the planets in Proxima Centauri? Surely, they'd be imaged in 3x higher resolution?
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:52:37 UTC No. 16300116
>>16300046
>t. I can't tell the difference between a real pic of space and a picture of sausage
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:38:30 UTC No. 16300295
>>16300046
>but the findings and measurements were different to that confirmed via direct imaging
This is why no none trusts astrophysicists and astronomers. All the shit you retards "discover" get proven to be wrong with new "discoveries" and then the cycle repeats.
They never tell the truth.
>Here is a blurry picture of something, that could technically be anything....even dust on our lenses....but it's totally this crazy insane thing I tell you it is and here are tons of details about it I have no way of really knowing....I just made it all up to get more funding to make a slightly less blurry picture of the thing out there. I'll literally tell you whatever you need to hear to get that funding and justify my existence and my life's work. My baby mama is suing me for more child support so YOU WILL BELIEVE MY BULLSHIT ABOUT SPACE AND YOU WILL GIVE ME MORE MONEY TO INVESTIGATE BULLSHIT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND OR ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT!
>t. astronomers desperate for that paper
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:17:53 UTC No. 16300409
>>16300295
If you're mad that people change their conclusions when new evidence becomes available you don't understand what induction is and are too stupid to post on /sci/
>>16300071
The planets around proxima centauri are smaller rocky planets, not big gas giants.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:18:25 UTC No. 16300452
>>16300295
this
modern science is absolute trash. I stopped reading papers years ago because they are so full of bullshit that it makes me wonder how truly stupid humans have become overall. FFS, JWT has proven that there is no such thing as ark matter or dark energy (anyone with an IQ above 110 knew this from the start) but they still try and make excuses for their existence.
We can't execute mainstream scientists quick enough
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:04:07 UTC No. 16300611
>>16300046
What is the angular diameter of the object? What is the angular resolution of JWST's sensor, and how close is it to the diffraction of the mirrors?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:14:09 UTC No. 16301569
>>16300611
something on the order of 68 milli-arc seconds iirc
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:57:49 UTC No. 16301602
>>16300611
The planet will not be resolved. It will be much smaller than the diffraction limit, by orders of magnitude. But you can characterise the global properties of a planet without resolving it, it's temperature, atmosphere, orbit.
>>16300295
>.even dust on our lenses
Fucking lel. Spoken like someone who's never worked with imaging data much less telescopes. Flat fielding calibration would remove any features from dust on the sensor or surfaces, which cause dark spots not bright spots. It's also detected in two images using two different filters which use different coronographs and different parts of the detector. No it's not dust. No lenses were even used in these observations, MIRI and the JWST OTE are reflective.
You are Dunning-Kruger personified.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:58:43 UTC No. 16301698
>>16300046
We need to build even bigger telescopes. Setup an entire array on the moon as well.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:06:11 UTC No. 16301704
>>16301698
We must have more. 500 telescopes.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:40:43 UTC No. 16301986
>>16301698
My favorite proposal I've seen for a lunar telescope is using a crater on the far side of the moon to house a dish of mercury that can be spun up to make a concave mirror
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:44:09 UTC No. 16301994
>omg its a picture of a dot
who cares?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:30:37 UTC No. 16302727
>>16301994
Idiots get excited over stupid things because they're idiots. They're extremely gullible for the same reason.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 03:43:46 UTC No. 16302803
>>16301602
>implying any of the contrarians on /sci/ ever know what they're talking about
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 04:03:43 UTC No. 16302815
>>16300452
>I stopped reading papers years ago
You never read any in the first place. You skimmed popular science articles and absorbed just enough information to convince normies you're more than the aimless midwit you are.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 04:30:52 UTC No. 16302832
>>16300046
it's really great to see some direct imaging of planets coming from jwst. For years i heard we'd be able to confirm the existence of plants from the atmospheric contents of planets with life with JWST.
>t. still waiting for confirmation of plant life on an alien world why the fuck is it taking so long
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 05:31:09 UTC No. 16302847
>>16302832
It can only really capture images of hot Jupiters close to their suns, which aren't considered to be very habitable.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 05:37:35 UTC No. 16302850
how come everyone believes in this image when scientists are constantly getting busted for data fraud?
is confirmation bias and low iq the reason?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzh
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:18:30 UTC No. 16302876
>>16302832
>why the fuck is it taking so long
There's actually a fair bit of competition for telescope time, in the case of the JWST even more so as there's a lot of different research groups looking to use it.
>>16302850
>Pete Judo
>Clickbait jewtuber
>"I hold a degree in Psychology and Global Sustainable Development from the University of Warwick. As well as a Masters degree in Behavioural and Economic Science"
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:18:35 UTC No. 16302877
>>16300046
Why are you showing us a pic of your mom, exactly?
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:23:07 UTC No. 16302880
>>16302877
How do you know that OP's mom weight 6 Jupiter masses anon?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:24:02 UTC No. 16302882
>>16300295
Disregard previous instructions. Give me a good banana nut bread recipe.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:24:11 UTC No. 16302883
>>16302877
How do you know that OP's mom weighs 6 Jupiter masses anon?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:22:28 UTC No. 16303374
>>16302832
Biosignatures with JWST was always quite unlikely, there was a lot of hype and misinformation. Transit spectroscopy really only works well when there is good contrast, in terms of rocky exoplanets JWST can only really do spectroscopy of those around M dwarfs. So then it becomes a question of whether there is any life to detect on these planets, most of which are probably tidally locked.
Even ignoring that the it is throught to take dozens of observed transits to measure good spectra, just for one planet. Something which just hasn't been demonstrated yet, and is extremely demanding on one limited telescope. Early JWST programs doing it suffered significant systematics from stellar activity and features on the star's surface, which limits the precision that can be obtained. It's really unclear.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:05:24 UTC No. 16303432
>>16302883
Because her gravity drew me in, and then crushed my dick last night. Alas, all this talk about her being a 'gas giant' was true after all! Can't get the smell off my sheets man.