Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:59:31 UTC No. 16300440

>>16300425
Psychedelics don't produce such dreams. Just like alcohol, caffeine and nicotine don't change your mundane reality into Disney world likewise psychedelics for the most part just change how you think and feel about your reality. Sure psychedelics can modify your perception like brighter colors, visual geometry and symbols when you close your eyes, contraction and dilation of space and time and so on but overall the psychedelic experience is much more mundane than the movies, trip reports and Joe Rogan stories want you to believe.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:43:20 UTC No. 16300471

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Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:47:59 UTC No. 16300476

>>16300440
>the psychedelic experience is much more mundane than the movies, trip reports and Joe Rogan stories want you to believe.
that REALLY depends on the substance and above all the quantity consumed

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:55:29 UTC No. 16300600

>>16300425
Computers can not explain consciousness

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:05:27 UTC No. 16300691

>>16300425
>consciousness
Just perception. These are image recognition software being reversed. Dreams might be the same. You experience the world by interpreting stimuli as concepts, and dreams are a reversal of that, simulating different concepts (presumably as a survival strategy, like a dream about running from a predator, otherwise they would just be wasted calories and wouldn't have evolved). But the dreams represent the concepts by simulating an amalgam of associated stimulus, which is why dreams are coherent in some ways and not in others.
Basically these are image recognition neural nets reversed with some prompt context, and dreams are also image recognition neural nets reversed with some prompt context. Our brains are just neural nets. And the same as this computer program doesn't have a mechanism to understand what "Mario" or whatever actually is, neither does your unconscious mind.
They're the same.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:14:30 UTC No. 16300706

>>16300476
No amount or purity of any chemical will make you see something like OP's image.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:19:12 UTC No. 16300913

>>16300425
That is a weirdly dreamlike video.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:43:20 UTC No. 16300936

>>16300706
t. has never had a breakthrough dose of dmt or salvia
now its mot like OP pic, if anything ot is vastly more absurd and indescribable, but it will absolutely transport you into completely alien worlds that have no relations to your physical environment whatsoever. don't think you know the full effects, just because you had some mushrooms or a few blotters a couple times.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:38:14 UTC No. 16301184

>>16300425

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:20:55 UTC No. 16301333

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Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 04:39:02 UTC No. 16301403

Is this what dreams are like

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:57:11 UTC No. 16301935

>>16300936
>Schizotard had a drug induced psychosis and thinks his delusions controvert reality.
Many such cases.
Funny how mentally stable high IQ white people that didn't smoke cannabis used these drugs in much higher doses in the 1950s and reported nothing like you do. You're just a burned out schizophrenic loser probably with a damaged brain from years of cannabis use and alcohol drinking and now you take psychosis inducing doses of psychedelics and think it's a consequence of the drug rather than your own genetics and history of other significant drug use that predisposes you to such experiences.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:53:46 UTC No. 16302008

>>16301935
cute
good example of the saying that psychedelics sometimes cause delusions in people who have not taken them.
you should read the studies by dr. rick strassman. first post prohibition clinical studies with a classical psychedelic, using high doses of IV DMT.
he pretty meticulously catalogues the experiences and describes common themes, patterns and entity encounters. he went into the study without ever having taken any psychedelics himself btw, so you cant pull out your convenient hippie strawman.
but we all know you wont bother reading anything that might challenge your worldview.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:40:59 UTC No. 16302069

>>16302008
There is no collective unconscious, there are no entities and there is no alternative universe you fall into. The brain is not a soul interface. It is a material object comprised of clumps of cells. Thanks to scientific materialism, it is no longer a mystery and clumps of cells are further understood and developed into formal disciplines neuroanatomy, neuroscience and pschopharmacology which allow us to see that there are certain compounds which cross the BBB and elicit psychoactive effects by their agonism of a specific 5HT receptor. Humans are not reliable narrators and people are not created equal. People reporting a heckin spiritual experience are ipso facto mentally ill.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:00:03 UTC No. 16302098

>>16302069
notice how I didn't say any of that, just pointed out the subjective experience on high doses of psychedelics. imagine I said you can have a vivid experience of nonmaterial worlds and beings in your dreams and you answered with a schizo rant about how dreams arent real and its just your brainwave patterns switching =) relax fren

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:01:04 UTC No. 16302100

>>16302069
>Thanks to scientific materialism, it is no longer a mystery

Source?

Cult of Passion at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:02:28 UTC No. 16302215

>>16300425
As logical and coherent as my dreams.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:20:11 UTC No. 16302258

>>16300440
>when you close your eyes
errrr, no, psychedelics can make you perceptually abandon completely your everyday perception.
This is what it feels and looks like to REALLY be on HEAVY psychedelics, with or without open eyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RONAjJYB5bE
Been there, done that. If you don't believe me, go do it yourself.