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Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 16:54:44 UTC No. 16300522
What are some arguments for/against there being multiverses?
Hardmode: no schizophrenia
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:04:57 UTC No. 16300543
>>16300522
Separation is an impossibility. They present voodoo arguments, like the multiverse is temporally staged. For example, something like big bang, universe, big crunch, big bang, next universe... And this is where we get infinite universes.
The next copium is that they aren't universes, but bubbles or light cones so far apart that they will never interact. This is not a valid explanation as they were entangled at some point int he past and it is the same universe.
The last is altered dimensions hiding universes, like some kind of fractal. This just means that we have miscategorized what we call a universe, and that the properly defined universe would encapsulate all fractal features.
As far as out of bounds ideas go, you can go with time travel multi-verse like steins;gate, but this is just a restatement of the fractal universe.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:14:55 UTC No. 16300555
There is no hard evidence for the multiverse. Top physicists don't even agree that our cosmological models imply a multiverse.
As a skeptic one should not believe every cool thing they hear without good reason
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:27:26 UTC No. 16300568
>>16300555
The current mainstream model (inflation) does predict multiverses tho.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:32:36 UTC No. 16300574
>>16300568
If you're going to be pop-sci about it, Stephen Hawking disagreed, along with his cowriter on the paper Hertog. They denounce the idea that there are "uncrossable" parts with infinite inflation.
Suppose there were anyway, and it's still just 1 universe that's infinitely inflating.
Anon85 at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:35:19 UTC No. 16300578
Stop being so retarded euclidean. When energy condenses it goes to linear ray like in black holes. From then because it has inertia it cannot stop it "hack" a way to disolve. Space is an entangled graph and dimensions are the side effect of energy entanglement emerging sone form of order. Multiverse can easily be a cauliflower of black holes universes no problem there.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:38:15 UTC No. 16300581
> Against
There is no direct evidence for any of the different kinds of parallel, cyclic, or multi-verse.
> For
The Anthropic Principle. Given the apparent fine-tuning of our universe's fundamental physical constants to allow our existence then some form of multi-verse would the be simplest explanation for that observation.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:38:18 UTC No. 16300582
>>16300522
Easy mode : Schizophrenics tap into alternate universes and this is where their "symptoms" come from, modern science is flawed and doesn't account for telepathy / parapsychology, the mentally ill are gifted.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:44:38 UTC No. 16300588
>>16300581
>For
IMO the inverse gambler’s fallacy combined with anthropic principle makes it very likely that a multiverse is real and that there is a selection effect at play
>A rebuttal paper by John Leslie points out a difference between the observation of double sixes and the observation of fine tuning, namely that the former is not necessary (the roll could have come out different) while the latter is necessary (our universe must support life, which means ex hypothesi that we must see fine tuning).[3] He suggests the following analogy: instead of being summoned into a room to observe a particular roll of the dice, we are told that we will be summoned into the room immediately after a roll of double sixes. In this situation it may be quite reasonable, upon being summoned, to conclude with high confidence that we are not seeing the first roll. In particular, if we know that the dice are fair and that the rolling would not have been stopped before double sixes turned up, then the probability that we are seeing the first roll is at most 1/36. However, the probability will be 1 if the roller has control over the outcome using omnipotence and omniscience which believers attribute to the creator. But if the roller doesn't have such powers, the probability may even be less than 1/36 because we have not assumed that the roller is obliged to summon us the first time double sixes come up.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:21:26 UTC No. 16300641
>>16300522
They haven't answered all the questions of the Single-verse yet.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:02:13 UTC No. 16301505
>>16300545
Good pic
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:37:30 UTC No. 16301630
Well, take a look at that!
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:08:48 UTC No. 16301708
>>16300522
Our most precisely accurate description of reality, namely quantum mechanics, in its bare form posits that there are multiple worlds. Even the Cope interpretation posits that that is the case during superposition. Interpretations that posit inherent randomness are incomplete because they simply assume inherent randomness exists, meaning there is no selection mechanism at all for selecting one outcome among many, which is absurd.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:11:38 UTC No. 16301713
>>16301708
That's just like, your interpretation, man.