Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 20:12:39 UTC No. 16300825

>>16300816
I hope so. Artlessness in STEM is replaceable by AI.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 20:54:58 UTC No. 16300890

>>16300816
Holy shit that's so fucking gay. It's like those one of these is not like the others questions for toddlers except for the fact that they're unironically trying to say that these all fit together.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:15:12 UTC No. 16300908

>>16300816
>not STREAM
y'all need Religion

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:21:30 UTC No. 16300917

>>16300890
>sci-tech-gineer-matics a new building
>it looks like shit and nobody cares
>math-engi-ence-ology a satellite
>noone cares because it doesn't take pretty pictures and you lose your funding

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:34:21 UTC No. 16300925

>>16300917
Wanting funding has nothing to do with STEM. All of the parts of STEM are connected, art is now just sitting there on its own contributing nothing as usual. If you want pretty pictures you can take them and nothing's stopping you, but that doesn't mean that taping a banana to a wall has anything to do with those other fields.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:42:47 UTC No. 16300935

>>16300925
not so much the money laundering scheme known as art but the act of human expression, ie: beauty, good design, perfection of the most perfect rock climb or whatever, a tv show which piqued many peoples interest in STEM

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:45:40 UTC No. 16300939

>>16300925
How is taping a banana to a wall art?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:50:23 UTC No. 16300948

>>16300935
That's all well and good but again art as a field has nothing to do with math, engineering, science, or technology. Beauty is good and where possible designs should take it into account, but the task of an engineer is to make something that works and make it work as efficiently as possible. Someone can come in later and make a pretty shell, but that is not what the engineer is being paid to do. The task of a scientist is to research, to discover, and to test hypotheses. If the scientist believes that it will get more funding they can add a camera to take pictures while gathering other data, but that is not the fundamental task of the scientist. The task of a mathematician is to prove or disprove logical statements. Making an elegant proof or putting it in a nice graph with a pleasing color scheme can make it more understandable and is admirable as a goal in addition to their underlying one, but it is again not the principle task. The purpose of technology is to make things easier for humans. Doing it while looking pleasing is nice, but once again is not why the technology was created. All of the topics of STEM involve each other, but art is just a nice extra step.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:51:23 UTC No. 16300950

>>16300939
That is what passes for art nowadays.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:51:54 UTC No. 16300953

>>16300948
>The purpose of technology is to make things easier for humans.
>Doing it while looking pleasing is nice.
How do you 1 without 2?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:52:00 UTC No. 16300954

>>16300816
>w-we're stem too!
What is this cope?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:53:12 UTC No. 16300956

>>16300950
That's like saying Joachim Boldt is what passes for science. It does but it doesn't.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:58:02 UTC No. 16300968

>>16300953
A spade doesn't need to be decorated nicely to make it easier to dig things. A nicely made spade might be better than a crudely crafted one, but that is not fundamental to the idea of a spade.

>>16300956
Someone lying for prestige and then having his credentials taken when it was found is not the same as someone selling a banana taped to a wall for millions of dollars because all standards have been removed from art. If anything, that shows that while real peer review is becoming less common and science is degrading, it still has more real standards than art.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:00:37 UTC No. 16300970

>>16300968
>Someone lying for prestige
>someone selling a banana taped to a wall
What's the difference?
>>16300968
>spade doesn't need to be decorated
You can't forge a spade without art.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:04:59 UTC No. 16300975

>>16300970
The difference is that one of those is rightfully treated as a disgrace while the other was sold to for millions of dollars to someone who knew what they were buying as art has lost all standards. The fact that people lie has nothing to do with the fact that art has no standards and that useless bullshit like spraying a canvas with random paint is treated as something amazing. You can stretch the definition of art as much as you want but the harder you stretch the less it means anything, the less it is useful as a category, and so the less reason you have to put it in STEM.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:10:39 UTC No. 16300985

>>16300975
>the other was sold to for millions of dollars to someone who knew what they were buying
Who bought the banana? Joachim sold science to Elsevier for millions of dollars divorced of standards.
>art has no standards
It doesn't. Neither does science.
>useless bullshit like spraying a canvas with random paint
Sounds like ergodics. What's the difference again?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:14:20 UTC No. 16300987

>>16300985
They clearly did have standards, once it was shown that the results were not as promised they stopped. Again, being decieved is not the same as having no standards for what you get. That is absolutely not what ergodics is and you just said that to sound smart. I'm not goingbto continue this because you just want to feel better about yourself for being included in the STEM category which you built up in your head as something important. Unfortunately, your inclusion in it is the end of its importance so you still have not actually done anything with your life.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:20:01 UTC No. 16300994

>>16300987
Ergodics is nothing more or less than "spraying a canvas with random paint," as you put it. If there were a real difference, you could simply describe it instead of describing your artistic impression of my life.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:30:53 UTC No. 16301003

>>16300908
It's STREAMS because sports are important for growing children's physical fitness.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:32:52 UTC No. 16301007

>>16300939
Actually, it's science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrrj0076E9U

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:33:45 UTC No. 16301009

>>16301003
Or MASTERS because thinking you're your own is a nonstarter.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:37:56 UTC No. 16301018

>>16301007
Did SNL only start being retarded post 80s or was I also a retard in the 80s

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:39:15 UTC No. 16301021

>>16301018
It's always been retarded in one form or another. Most people think the era before they grew out of watching it was good without realizing why they feel that way.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:41:04 UTC No. 16301026

>>16301021
It started in the 80s. There was no previous era.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:01:30 UTC No. 16301054

fags

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:36:27 UTC No. 16301106

>>16301054
are you mod?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:23:57 UTC No. 16301171

>>16301106
no

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:26:32 UTC No. 16301172

>>16301106
>>16301054
newfags

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:38:35 UTC No. 16301185

STREAMERS

Science
Technology
Religion
Engineering
Art
Math
Equity and Gender Studies
Racial Awareness
Sex work

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:45:43 UTC No. 16301197

>>16301185
Math
Art
Science
Tech
Equity (Engineers = Big Gay Babies)
Religion (Race)
Sex work

MASTERS it is

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 06:44:26 UTC No. 16301500

>>16301009
4MASTERS

Because you need to include the 4chan degree as well

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:03:24 UTC No. 16301524

>>16300816
That is the most retarded bullshit. Mathematics is already art, obviously those fucktards wouldn't understand the beauty of it

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:50:23 UTC No. 16301551

>>16300816
fix'd with art

>ARTISM AWARENESS, PEOPLE!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:21:08 UTC No. 16301574

>>16301026
The show started in the mid 1970s which is easily verifiable. Why are zoom zooms so ignorant of easily researched facts and so proud of their ignorance?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:06:19 UTC No. 16301705

>>16301197
BLASTERS

Black Lives Matter
LGBTQIA2S+ pride
Autism awareness
Science
Tech
Equity and Diversity Studies (no E for engineering)
aRithemetic
Sex Work (sex work is science, chuds)

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:06:49 UTC No. 16301707

>>16300816
This isn't even a STEM board. Technology has its own board.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:49:35 UTC No. 16302964

>>16300816
Most people that allegedly work in "science" cannot even explain or understand what science and the scientific method is, let alone applying it.

Most people who work in "science" are nothing but furniture who memorized protocols, without any deep understanding or questions of the protocols and their outcomes.
The are lab monkeys. Slaves with high IQ but low enough IQ to not see that they do esotheric memes in petridishes and irreproducible crap.

I talked to people who work in science who think that a "unfalsifyable hypthesis" is actually the best hypothesis.
Even when explaining to them, what unfalsifyable means, they zone out.

Science has been a meme since the abandonment of the scientific method.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:10:32 UTC No. 16303403

>>16302964
>Even when explaining to them, what unfalsifyable means, they zone out.
Actually no. I'm just not interested in discussing the philosophy of science with an undergraduate, so rather than tell him to FO I just pretend to be uninterested.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:29:16 UTC No. 16303445

>>16303403
>I just pretend to be uninterested and go back to writing the DEI statement for my latest grant application.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:33:26 UTC No. 16303450

>>16303445
>writing the DEI statement for my latest grant application
This isn't real. Go outside.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 22:48:15 UTC No. 16303833

>art can't assert its own importance and has to clumsily graft itself onto some unrelated shit
artbros...

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 07:14:11 UTC No. 16304363

>>16303403
In other words:
>I don't understand what unfalsifyable means

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 16:58:16 UTC No. 16304751

>>16300816
They need to get more wamyn in STEM somehow