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Anonymous No. 16304322

Good news everyone, glaciers in Greenland are growing. I'm sure all of the concerned environmentalists on this board will be ecstatic to see that glaciers in Greenland are growing.

Anonymous No. 16304356

glaciers suck, they are inhospitable to humans and claim many lives every year.

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Anonymous No. 16304357

>>16304322
>Good news everyone
oh, it's you again.

Yes, it would be good news if Petermann Glacier grew, but even more so if it kept growing, since it has been shrinking since 2002 (many sources on that).
I see that your photo is from 2024-07-28, can you provide the source, please?

Anonymous No. 16304396

>>16304357
>responding to a spambot

Anonymous No. 16304612

>>16304396
>spambot
he knows who he is, don't worry

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16304965

Its hillarious how people who claim to be concerned about global warming and the environment chimp out massively whenever they see good news about the environment.

Anonymous No. 16304978

More ice is better for something

Anonymous No. 16305084

>>16304965
>chimp out massively
No one did, anon. Read the thread.
Sauce on image, please.

Anonymous No. 16305500

>>16304357
The Petermann glacier has expanded substantially over the past dozen years, why does that upset you so badly? Why aren't you happy to see that the Petermann glacier is expanding?

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Anonymous No. 16305567

>>16305500
>The Petermann glacier has expanded substantially over the past dozen years
Source please, because that's not what I see written, right up to articles written last year.
Again, source on the image.

I'm trying to have a conversation with you; you're trying to trigger people.

This is the last time I ask you for sources. Put up, or be left alone in your troll thread.

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Anonymous No. 16306368

>>16304322
As we can see from this map of glacial retreat hosted on NOAA, the retreat of glaciers is highly variable. Due to this variance, the appearance of catastrophic melting is seen in some years, while the total opposite happens the next.

Anonymous No. 16306370

>>16304357
>it would be good news if Petermann Glacier grew
Why? How does humanity benefit? How do I personally befit?

Anonymous No. 16306421

>>16304322
Oh look, climate denialists cherrypicking again. Who'd have thunk?

https://www.livescience.com/glacier-mass-loss-estimate-two-decades.html

Anonymous No. 16306427

>>16305567
>I'm trying to have a conversation with you
no you're badgering the guy like an incel. If you're akshully curious just google it, dipshit

Anonymous No. 16306428

>>16306421
not him but what about the amazon forests regreening from all the co2 that's pretty based tho innit?

Anonymous No. 16306440

>>16306428
Tropics are of lesser concern for man-made climate change than the arctic for a fairly simple reason. The tropics are exposed to more direct sunlight throughout the year. The sun hasnโ€™t changed in solar output much in hundreds of thousands of years. Thereโ€™s actually very little variation. The problem is that when the sun goes down and the heat is escaping back into space, some of that heat is getting trapped by Co2 on its way out leaving it to be slightly hotter in the morning when the sun rises again which means tomorrow is slightly hotter than it should have been with all that extra CO2 in the air. This is confirmed when we study modern climate change that nights are growing hotter faster than days:
https://www.climatecentral.org/climate-matters/sweltering-summer-nights-2023#
A clear indication that itโ€™s not the sun thatโ€™s responsible for the increased warming, but greenhouse gases.

Likewise, the tropics, being in direct sunlight all year long, are pretty much going to be the same temperature. Of course, theyโ€™ll go up in temperature a little bit, but not compared to the arctic, which has the same problem that it canโ€™t lose heat like it did before the Industrial Revolution because of increased CO2. Another indicator of man made climate change:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-022-00498-3

Which is absolutely devastating to species that rely on snow and ice to live, including humans, who use things like glacial meltwater to, you know, drink and grow crops or who rely on snow melt to manage their rivers and lakes instead of getting all their water in one rainy season which floods their dams then doesnโ€™t have nearly as much the rest of the year.

So no. The greening of the Amazon isnโ€™t so cool compared to the sheer ass fuckery weโ€™re receiving just so a few oil billionaires can buy another megayacht

Anonymous No. 16306543

>>16304965
Same thing happens when a Munchausen syndrome by proxy mommy takes her kid to a doctor and the doctor says the kid is perfectly healthy.

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16307558

>>16306440
>The sun hasnโ€™t changed in solar output much in hundreds of thousands of years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

Anonymous No. 16308774

>>16307558
this, it also changes substantially every 5.5 years

Anonymous No. 16308940

Never understood why anyone would question the climate change narrative. Don't you understand that we need to fund renewable technologies right now because fossil fuels are finite and will probably run out in 100-200 years?

Anonymous No. 16308943

>>16308940
Why do you retards get so triggered at the idea of moving away from the use of fossil fuels? Do you own shares in oil companies?

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Anonymous No. 16309990

>>16308943

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Anonymous No. 16310116

>>16305567
You delusional faggots with your cow-farts doomsday cult should all be purged.
The glaciers have ALL been shrinking since the end of the last ice age, thousands of years ago. You hide all the earlier data and pretend it's because of lawnmowers to get yourselves more money and power.
At the very least, you should be forced to live the life you claim to support: no electricity, no food from modern agriculture, no home other than a tiny shitty soviet-style apartment you share with ten other sรถyfags, no heat in the winter, no cooling in the summer, no automobile transportation of any kind, no modern medicine.
Forcing you to not be hypocrites and live the life you are trying to impose on everyone else would end your dopey psychopathic cult in a couple of weeks.

Anonymous No. 16310125

>>16304322
> Search up 'worst summer on record' to see coverage of the fact the UK has been 14c maximum all summer with pouring rain every single day.

> all coverage is americans talking about their hot summer and how it's evidence of global warming

So I guess you just ignore it when places have their coldest summer in a century?

Anonymous No. 16310188

>>16307558
Sigh. Even the Maunder Minimum is hardly any change whatsoever. It was only about 0.1% You do know that right? And Milankovitch Cycles are because of Earth's orbit and not solar output. I mean, that's not even Climatology, that's Meteorology 101 shit. Oh right, You're not an Earth Science major and have never even taken Meteorology 101 and don't understand what you're talking about. Sigh.

Anonymous No. 16310193

>>16309990
I am autistic and have dyslexia, therefore I am allowed to use retard, like blacks can use nigger.

Also, "The kindest word in all the world is the unkind word, unsaid." Doesn't make sense as when a word is unsaid it isn't a word dumbass

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Anonymous No. 16311503

>>16310193
the n word is racist

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Anonymous No. 16311516

>>16310188
>le sigh
>le sign

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16312689

>>16310116
They wouldn't need to tell lies like that if global warming was real

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Anonymous No. 16312693

>>16309990
shut the fuck up, retard. there's a window on the back of the short bus that ain't gonna lick itself

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Anonymous No. 16312830

>>16304357
I'm confused. It has been growing steadily since 2012.
Growing is the opposite of shrinking. They are antonyms. Are you using different words than the rest of us?
So suppose I made a prediction that the earth is getting steadily hotter, and I said that one way to tell would be that the Petermann Glacier was shrinking, but then it instead grew even though the temperatures were supposedly still getting hotter.
What would a RATIONAL person conclude about my theory? Should that person be silenced or thrown in prison or something? Or should the obviously falsified theory be discarded?
Help me understand as only a true-believer can!

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Anonymous No. 16312833

>>16310116
They aren't just hiding old data. They are outright lying at this point.

Anonymous No. 16312838

>>16304965
same mad as vaxxies when you tell them the human body has its own means to fight illnesses, they flip the fuck out.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16313862

>>16312830
If shrinking glaciers prove global warming is real then why doesn't glaciers growing mean that global warming is fake?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuuCNYLpKpI

Anonymous No. 16314771

34 posts and no one pointing out glaciers move?
Is there any reason to think it's not just moving, as glaciers historically do? Show us the ass end not just the bow.

Anonymous No. 16315480

>>16314748
Good video

Anonymous No. 16315495

>>16314748
>elon musk
reddit

Anonymous No. 16315507

>>16315495
why does musk trigger you so badly? because he is making spaceflight see progress for the first time since the 1960s? what crimes again science has musk committed?

Anonymous No. 16315534

>>16314771
Lmao at this retard

Anonymous No. 16315822

>>16304322
>Glaciers growing
That's ok. Was kinda hoping they'd all melt and there would be world ending chaos. Guess I'll have to hope in some other mechanism for the end of the world.
>Stuffs hands in pockets as I kick rocks while walking down the dirt path.

Anonymous No. 16315901

>>16313862
Because you're literally cherrypicking your data. I'll give you an example. In Alaska USA about 3000 glaciers are shrinking. About 5 glaciers are growing. This is because some changers in weather patterns cause a tiny handful of glaciers to get more snow and therefore grow. It does not, at all, change the fact that climate change is causing glaciers to melt as is evidenced by the 3000 which are shrinking.

You can read more about this here:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/are-some-of-the-earth-s-glaciers-actually-becoming-larger.html

Anonymous No. 16315907

>>16304322
I was told though that we are going to melt next week though and the ocean will be 600 feet higher. Did science lie to me?... again?

can one of you leftists scientists tell me what's going on? I don't get it. You guys keep saying the world is heating up, but nothing is happening. Please explain

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16317706

>>16315507
The people on /sci/ who get upset about Elon are all the people from the leftychan.net discord who organize to spam this board and other with left wing political propaganda. None of them are here to discuss science, the don't have any interest in the topic.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16318331

>>16317706
janny lets the get away with murder constantly shilling their trannyhumanism

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16319618

>>16315901
>glacial ice that accumulated during the little ice age is slowly melting away
oy vey! this is the end of the world!! better give the government all my money, maybe that will fix it

Anonymous No. 16319754

>>16315901
>I'd link you to my posts criticizing the main-stream media for also focusing on this one glacier, but those posts don't exist because I'm a fucking hypocrite.
Bitch, this thread is FILLED with homos insisting that the Petermann is shrinking when it's clearly growing. Apparently they simply cannot accept the idea that even one glacier is out of phase with the orthodox narrative.
Why don't you impress me and spend your time here telling all of them how stupid they are?

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bodhi No. 16319805

>>16304322

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>>16319805

Anonymous No. 16320721

>>16304322
When can we get an alarmist doomer general thread to clean up this board?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16320730

>>16304322
this type of overly optimistic science does not provide the stimulus we need to establish a one-world socialist utopia. it must cease immediately.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jyPwh4Xaaihj

Anonymous No. 16320742

>>16320721
Why would fossil fuel shills confine themselves to a containment thread?

Anonymous No. 16320759

>>16320742
Interesting argument, but climate scientists are getting paid more for their propaganda and they are more likely to benefit then someone working minimum wage. Indeed, literally coomer goons on a basketweaving forum have no problem rebuking shills on a variety of topics, but somehow the esteemed climate doomers are never able to.

Anonymous No. 16320764

>>16320759
>climate scientists are getting paid more for their propaganda
Are the climate scientists in the thread with us now? How fucking stupid do you have to be to actually believe that climate scientists, who make shit wages, are spending all their time shitposting on /sci/ in order to perpetuate a global hoax that has less of a financial incentive for them then being a barista at starbucks?

Anonymous No. 16321566

>>16320764
there's no scientists on /sci/, only redditors such as yourself who do nothing but appeal to authority

Anonymous No. 16321587

>>16320730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD2186Yh0Uc

Anonymous No. 16321699

>>16321566
It's sad that you don't even understand what an appeal to authority is.

Anonymous No. 16322018

>>16321699
write a peer reviewed study on it, faggot

Anonymous No. 16322094

>>16304965
Of course they gonna chimp out. Their paychecks depend on that shit getting worse.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16324028

>>16322094
The funny thing is that isn't not even the paid shills who chimp out, its the total losers who have their whole identities wrapped up in unpaid 'environmental' activism who get the angriest. They take on those identities because they have nothing of legitimate value to base their lives around, no careers, no family, not even significant hobbies. And their activism is all political, theres nothing environmental about it, they don't care about nature, they don't ever even leave the big city to visit the wilderness, they don't engage in any activities which legitimately benefit nature.

Anonymous No. 16324039

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Anonymous No. 16324045

>>16304322
winter is back

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>>16324039
if you zoom out far enough you'll see a planet that currently is so cold that it has two permanent polar ice caps and that has had life on it for hundreds of millions of years and which was not cold enough to have permanent polar ice caps for most of the time that life existed

Anonymous No. 16324072

>>16306370
you will continue living for exactly 5 minutes longer, hope that helps

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16324666

Good news about that glacier expanding. All the climate doomers keep on saying its over for glaciers, nice so see that they're just telling lies.
The doomers should learn to live honestly, they'd be better off and happier if they could do that.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16326281

>REEEEEE A GLACIER IS EXPANDING!!!
>THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY!!!!
>t. (((environmentalist)))
>I totally love glaciers btw

Anonymous No. 16326949

>>16326281
>>16324666
>>16324050
>>16324039
>>16324028
>>16322094
Retard takes.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16328020

>>16326281
they use their fake doomsday scenarios to justify their own selfish behaviors, such as not working, vandalism, violence, greed and other antisocial behaviors.
if they were ever to admit that their fake doomsday scenarios were fake then they would have to give up on all their repulsive personality traits too and they don't want to do that because they're too self centered

Anonymous No. 16328026

>>16306543
In a way its like drivers slowing down traffic because they want to see the car crash, they don't want the situation to improve they are invested in the problem itself.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16329340

The glaciers on Mt. Shasta are all growing too

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16330286

>>16304965
its the same way how democrats are promoting gays and transpeople .
but then blame trumps vice president candidate for having a trans friend as it would be a bad thing.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16331263

>>16330286
In theory, a democracy is governed by whomever is best at emotionally manipulating the dumbest 50.000001% of the population.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16331459

>>16331263
in theory ?

Anonymous No. 16331470

>>16305084
>Sauce on image, please
Just google it, paki. Ain't gonna spoon feed you

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>>16331263
Its governed by whomever is best at hacking the voting system

Anonymous No. 16332506

>>16324045
Good ol trusty subzero ripping warmtards spines

Anonymous No. 16332820

>>16332506
You know why the polar vortex is destabilizing, right?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16333781

>>16332820
>high temperatures:
ITS PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING
>low temperatures:
ITS PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING
>average temperatures
ITS PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING
>no temperatures
ITS PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING

Anonymous No. 16333893

>>16333781
You are a moron.

Anonymous No. 16334415

>>16313862
growing glaciers also prove global warming is real. that shit is so extremely true it follows from anything. let me remind you here that 'true implies true' and 'false implies true' are both true.

Anonymous No. 16334418

>>16320721
there are so many topics of obsession that we'd be neck deep in various generals and would not have space for bait threads.

Anonymous No. 16334419

>>16333893
that's some great debate skill demonstrated right there.

Anonymous No. 16334491

>>16334419
You aren't knowledgeable enough to have a debate. You're just a moron.

Anonymous No. 16334605

>>16334491
well, as I said ...

Anonymous No. 16334644

>>16334418
If mods cleared out these bot bumped threads there would be more space for actual bait.

Anonymous No. 16334663

>>16334644
pay them nothing, expect from them nothing.

Anonymous No. 16334667

>>16334663
Could easily make a bot that removes garbage considering how easy it is to spot.

Anonymous No. 16334791

>>16334605
Prove you're worthy of a debate and I'll treat you with something other than scorn.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16335337

>>16334667
why does this thread upset you so badly? why doesn't seeing that glaciers are expanding make you happy?

Anonymous No. 16335340

>>16304322
winter is coming

Anonymous No. 16335585

>>16309990
Isn't not tolerating retard the opposite of promoting tolerance? That check mark should removed.

I use retard all the time. I hardly ever use the words faggot or nigger, but hearing them is a dog whistle that a person is cool and not a woke retard.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16336691

>>16304322
The Mt. St Helens glacier is also growing

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16336815

>>16336691
the mt shasta glaciers are all growing too

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16337119

>>16336815
Same is true for the ones on Mt Hood

Anonymous No. 16337125

>>16304322
It's not sea ice. It's just a glacier which is unimportant to the health of the world ecosystem

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16338225

>>16335585
no it isn't

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16338815

>>16335337
I can't imagine why people who claim to be worried about global warming would be so upset by seeing that glaciers are growing

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16340308

>>16306368
>while the total opposite happens the next.
The Petermann Glacier has been growing consistently for ever a decade, so have many other glaciers all over the world. Isn't that great news? All of the people who are so concerned about glaciers disappearing are doubtlessly happy to see that so many glaciers are consistently growing

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16343057

>>16340308
>All of the people who are so concerned about glaciers disappearing are doubtlessly happy to see that so many glaciers are consistently growing
its hilarious how angry they get when they see good news about the environment

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16344560

>>16341459
lol

Anonymous No. 16344736

>>16304356
if you get killed by a glacier you deserve it

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16346214

I still don't understand why people who claim to be concerned about global warming get so upset when they that theres a glacier thats growing.
Can anyone explain to me why good news about the environment makes environmentalists so angry?

Anonymous No. 16346366

>>16343057
>>16346214
Can you explain how exactly this is good news?

Anonymous No. 16346456

>>16310125
What about just, you know, normal summers? Every summer is either blazingly hot or anomalously cold now, with leaning towards blazing hot.

We shouldn't even be talking about this, but 110 degree summers are just every year now, or somewhere gets 60 degree max summers. These are events that should be happening once every few decades, not every year.

Anonymous No. 16346473

>>16306421
What good is a glacier?

>>16306428
Sucks that they keep chopping it down for cattle grazing.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16346510

>>16346473
>OH NO MUH TREES
you have never planted a tree, you have never even grown a plant. you don't care about the environment, you just like to whine and moan like crybaby bitch because that the only way you know to focus attention on yourself since you have no redeeming qualities and are too lazy and self centered to acquire any

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Anonymous No. 16346524

>>16304322
oh cool, our efforts to reduce climate change are working.
thanks for letting me know we are on the right track and must continue to do what we are doing to fix this!

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16346552

>>16346524
>continue to do what we are doing to fix this!
which is nothing.
you don't do anything at all other than whine and moan on the internet like a little bitch

atmospheric co2 concentrations keep on rising at the same rate they always have and it makes no difference to the glaciers, they just keep on growing anyway.

Anonymous No. 16346555

>>16304322
The elite are preparing for catastrophic global cooling under the pretense of clamping down on supposed causes of warming. When it happens they'll migrate to equatorial regions, leaving the sheeple to freeze to death.

Anonymous No. 16346701

>>16346524
How do you figure?

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Anonymous No. 16346748

>>16346701
>man-made global warming is melting the ice
>enact policies that reduce our impact on the environment
>ice comes back
WOW!

Anonymous No. 16346790

>>16346748
Atmospheric CO2 fractions are currently greater than they ever have been in recorded history.

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Anonymous No. 16346884

>>16346790
oh nvm, OP is just retarded

>Jakobshavn's growth did not come as a surprise to scientists. A recent study team from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, determined that water transported to the area around the glacier by a key ocean current has been colder than it was prior to 2016, when the growth began. The colder water is not melting the ice from the front and underneath the glacier as quickly as the warmer water did.

>The temperature change of the current's water is part of a known climate pattern, one that is expected to flip again, and cause more of the melting and ice thinning for which Jakobshavn is known. Although the melting rate has slowed, the glacier continues to contribute to sea level rise, ultimately losing more ice to the ocean than it gains from snow accumulation overall.

Anonymous No. 16346999

>>16346748
Non sequitor. Ice forms on the walls of your freezer. That does not mean that your freezer is getting cooler.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16347115

>>16346884
thats a completely different glacier in a completely different location
>part of a known climate pattern
""""known"""" by the same people who couldn't predict the cooling of the equatorial atlantic.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16348017

>>16346999
>muh disingenuously selected intentionally misleading terrible comparison
lmao thats your only argument
are you trying to look foolish intentionally?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16348121

>>16318331
because janny is a tranny

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>>16312838
interesting observation

Anonymous No. 16348606

>>16348017
You're trying to distract from the fact that you haven't told me in what way this is good news. Ice growing does not equate to colder temperatures and even if it did colder temperatures in one place is not evidence of any global change. Do you have some evidence for your claims, or can you explain some other way that this is a good thing?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16350285

>>16348606
warmer temperatures in one place is not evidence of any global change.

Anonymous No. 16350408

>>16350285
Obviously not. The difference is that warmer temperatures are observed globally. You're trying to deflect. How is this glacier growing good news?

Anonymous No. 16351636

>>16350408
warmer temperatures aren't observed globally, where I'm at its currently the coldest summer so far this century

Anonymous No. 16352182

>>16351636
>warmer temperatures aren't observed globally
Do you have a source for that?
>where I'm at its currently the coldest summer so far this century
Non-sequitur. One place being colder is not evidence of a global trend. We've already covered this.