Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:24:05 UTC No. 16304542

>>16304534
what stem degree did you get? meme sciences don't count as stem degrees

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:26:30 UTC No. 16304544

>>16304542
Computer Science

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:26:45 UTC No. 16304545

>>16304534
"computer science" isnt science, complaining faggot
better get a degree on fagineering or whatever jeets like to hire

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:29:20 UTC No. 16304546

>>16304534
have you tried getting into trades tho?

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:41:52 UTC No. 16304560

>>16304544
you are a code monkey, not a stem chad. I studied physics and I habe a job

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:43:29 UTC No. 16304563

>>16304544
A 14 year old kid that learns python and any frontend framework e.g React or learns a mobile app development framework can easily get a job and is much more useful than a "computer scientist" in the market.

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 12:59:11 UTC No. 16304570

>>16304560
how's the labor going, fellow physicsfag
been thinking going to quant finance for fast profit to buy a house

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:02:07 UTC No. 16304573

>>16304534
no job, no money, student debts, but at least you have a STEM degree

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:12:01 UTC No. 16304577

>>16304563
Kek. This is what average /sci/let believes.

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:25:16 UTC No. 16304595

>We're getting too many applicants lets pay some 3rd party service big dollars to filter out those candidates who may be qualified for the job because we're too lazy to vet them ourselves
>Not getting hired despite ticking all the boxes? No worries, you can pay headhunters who will put you through to the relevant party for a chance for an interview
>literally monetizing the hiring process by creating a problem so they can sell a solution to fix the problem they've created in the first place
>all that just to get a shot at an interview for a job opening that may not even be real and even if you do get hired they'll take a chunk of your annual salary as commission
>meanwhile you'll get overloaded with more work because your knuckle-dragging coworkers got hired through nepotism
Death to HR

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:28:20 UTC No. 16304597

>>16304534
Reminder t jews do nothing but lie and extract value from destroying society.

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 18:08:34 UTC No. 16304821

>>16304534
tradies are having this exact same problem now too. Starting positions are requiring people to have like 4 years of experience because dumb fuck HR cunts want the most qualified person for any position and are too stupid to realize it's literally impossible to get a starter job with experience. It's literally just corporate fluff to make the job seem better than it is.

Also, if you went to a good college, they would have had you doing applied [insert STEM job here] while you were on campus. If you did projects that had you actually doing real calculations for real world scenarios and building stuff, you can write that in as experience. You can also intern for like 6 months at a place and then start applying for jobs at the end of that 6 months so you can get a better paying job.

There are lots of coding schools for example that will have you creating a website or some other digital projects as part of your education. The experience gained from doing that is worth hundreds of times more value than just reading through books and studying bullshit nobody cares about.

>>16304544
If you want a job, what you need to do is to create something with your cs knowledge. Literally any sort of project like a website that shows what you are capable of. Then you can list that on your resume. You don't have to work for someone else in order to gain industry experience. Seriously, just start making websites for people until you have a nice portfolio, then you can walk into an interview and showcase what you've done and tell them how you solved problems for a variety of people and how your specific knowledge was utilized for different needs for different websites. I've seen people get coding jobs with 0 formal education because they actually coded shit and created stuff rather than just going to get a piece of paper, but if you do both, you stand out amongst everyone by default

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 20:01:34 UTC No. 16304924

>>16304534
>like everyone else
What percent of people have a STEM degree?

>no jobs available
Sure there are, you might have to leave your little irrelevant hamlet to get started though.

>hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt
If you have hundreds of thousands in student debt, you are a confirmed moron. A B.S. degree at a reputable state University costs maybe 100k total if you live high on the hog, get no aid, no scholarships, parents don't help you at all, and you have no job/internship/co-op to pay for it. If you got duped into going to a private college for some reason then I guess I really don't have that much sympathy for you.

You have been given great gifts and you squander them and act like a privileged child like you are owed a standard of living. Grow up, look for jobs, even if they're 1000 miles away, then move away from home and move on in your life.

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 21:17:53 UTC No. 16305013

>>16304924
Cool gay ass meme you fucking moron. Not everyone can just drop their entire life and move around at the behest of schlomocorp

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 21:37:55 UTC No. 16305030

>>16305013
Well that settles it then, keep sulking and bitching on forums like here then. I was in the same scenario and moved halfway across the country for four years to build my resume out and be able to compete better. I moved back last year to a small city about two hours away from my home city. Good luck anon serving tables, at least you're not a bagger boy at a local grocery store like I was.

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 22:29:08 UTC No. 16305082

>>16304534
The economy changes so rapidly that picking a good degree became like dumping a bunch of borrowed money into a shitcoin or memestock
>Wait, you took out 100k$ and dumped it all into $CompSci? What a fucking retard! Everyone knew the real winner would be $Trades and $OnlyFans
It's really fucking gay

Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 22:30:08 UTC No. 16305085

>>16304560
300k starting?

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 21:26:00 UTC No. 16306244

>>16304534
>4 year entry level
That is just h1b cheats.

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 21:27:47 UTC No. 16306245

>>16304534
>go into computer science bro
>you'll be a millionaire like everyone else

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 21:33:39 UTC No. 16306251

>>16305030
Good job recognising posting styles you utter moron I'm not even the OP. Some people have caring responsibilities or other reasons they can't just up sticks to "build their resume". Grow up.

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 21:55:27 UTC No. 16306266

I studied Classics (greek and latin), and had no problem getting a job. Maybe the problem is not the degree?

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:14:18 UTC No. 16306273

>>16304821
>tradies are having this exact same problem now too.
lolno. A very hefty portion of people working rn in trades are 60 going on 70, desperate for someone to come replace them so they can retire. Covid only intensified it by convincing scores of boomers to retire early to avoid exposure or dealing with the bs.

I've job hopped like 6 times in the past 4 years, multiple times even quitting without having anything lined up and I haven't been unemployed longer than 3 weeks.

>t. electronics techie

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:31:25 UTC No. 16306289

>>16304544
what compels a person to spend $200k on the most easily self-taught skill in STEM?
even 15 year old trannies mog your ass

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:50:38 UTC No. 16306303

>tfw top 2% on ACT and SAT, two engineering degrees (one from an engineering-only uni) and internships through college.
A decade after graduating I've only worked one contract job in my field for a bunch of Indians and now don't have enough credentials to get a job in my field (dad got cancer in the middle of nowhere, too, which took a year, he made it). Age 35 never had $2k at a time in my life, never had a job with health insurance.
It turns out people would rather hire someone that fits in than someone who paid attention in school. Big surprise.
I feel you, OP, I gave up on life a few years ago. It's all drug abuse and suicide from here.

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 00:50:33 UTC No. 16306423

EE here. Am I fucked?

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 02:34:25 UTC No. 16306478

>>16304544
>>16304534
Bad market right now for Comp Sci. Silicone Valley and big tech is firing thousands.
Wait for a year, get by, figure out a niche you want to work in, get yourself 2 years of experience (even in open source for free).
You'll get the job 1-2 years down the line.

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 02:45:45 UTC No. 16306480

>>16306423
you're up against shitjeets with a degree they bought in india just to get entry level jobs in a computer repair shop. You'd be lucky to even get an interview.

it's shitjeets from here on pal, get used to it.

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 02:49:01 UTC No. 16306481

>>16306478
>You'll get the job 1-2 years down the line.
Oh yeah, great. Born with a terminal illness that costs over $1k / month just to live, hence why I went into engineering to provide for myself. No job, no insurance, no inheritance, I'd die in 4-7 days without medicine and the cheapest obamacare plan is over $700 / month (yeah, they totally don't charge you more for preexisting conditions lol).
Not OP, but I need a fucking job or it's crime or suicide.

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 02:56:17 UTC No. 16306485

>>16306423
Focus on power and you're perfectly fine. Focus on other analog and you can be good but need an internship or connections to get in the door somewhere first. Focus on digital and it's the same as analog except you have to develop a fucking rosetta stone to wade through all the bullshit job titles and positions to find 0.01% of things that are actually relevant to you. If I didn't mention your focus you're probably good, but will need help actually finding the jobs that need your skills. If you're specializing in computer engineering, don't bank on the computer science side, but don't skimp on it either.

One of the problems you'll face is that all your learning doesn't even cover half of its real world application. If you've enjoyed circuits, ask some of your (analog) professors what a FMEA, FHA, or sneak circuit analysis is. If I knew about safety analysis back in undergrad I probably would have leaned into it much earlier than I did.

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 02:58:42 UTC No. 16306488

>>16306423
defense industry. They're legally unable to outsource it (ITAR) and they only give clearances to 'murricans. See >>16306273

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 03:42:25 UTC No. 16306513

>>16306273
K then fag. You realize the market will become saturated with a pile of young talent like STEM/Computer Science, and then Law before that was? Maybe we should all pivot into Economics instead.

Issue is people always pursuing the easiest path and over-saturation. What's worse about trades is you're not nearly as transferable. What can an electrician do if he can't become an apprecntice? How about a mill-wright? HVAC tech? Car mechanic? Where do you fucking go when they won't hire you? CS can at least fall into vaious IT roles and field tech roles. What happens with you when the labor market works against you?

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 03:50:32 UTC No. 16306525

>>16305013
>can't move around to make money
So what, you just starve?

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 04:09:34 UTC No. 16306551

>>16306478
>open source
fuck that. Open source is the reason we have all those turd worlders taking your job.
I remember when there was no open source and those turd worlders were churning out complete crap.
When you open source, you dont just open source your product, you open source your mind and your intuition which these turd worlders dont have.
You cant outwork these turd worlders but you have the intuition to move in a better direction and you give it away for free.

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 15:37:28 UTC No. 16307165

>>16306481
>l illness that costs over $1k / month just to live,
Dude. Everyone has some type of illnesses and handicaps.
My cost of living is around $4K / month, alone.
I got screwed and scammed into a large house during last bubble. Just taxes are $1K/ month .
Plus repairs, grass, snow this and that another $1K / month. I am out $2K / month just before I start on the 1st of each month.
People manage.

>and the cheapest obamacare plan is over $700 / month
If you have some disease ........ not sure, I think you need to look around. Federal has Medicare(?) and each state has different programs that you can apply for. Ask around in your state - ask accountants, call several insurance agents / brokers. Women get this stuff for free all the time, they know who to call and where to get services, you just need to find out who knows this.