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Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 16:08:49 UTC No. 16349456
if neuroplasticity of the brain exists, why is intelligence constant then?
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 16:50:44 UTC No. 16349506
>>16349456
>If the structure and the accessibility of the pathways can be altered then why are some people consistently more or consistently less efficient and effective in making these alterations happen?
Honk honk.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 16:54:06 UTC No. 16349507
>>16349456
>I don't believe that I am my brain.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:26:56 UTC No. 16349628
>>16349456
>intelligence constant
It's not
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:30:14 UTC No. 16349631
>>16349628
most modern research papers indicate that the intelligence tends to remain constant throughout life. https://dictionary.apa.org/constanc
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:34:17 UTC No. 16349636
>>16349456
Try to get the same score on any IQ test. You can't. IQ is plastic like your neurons.
Microplastic.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:04:00 UTC No. 16349690
>>16349456
its only constantly 0 for you OP
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:05:00 UTC No. 16349691
>>16349631
whats the last names of the authors of the papers?
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:07:54 UTC No. 16349698
Because it only has minor plasticity in most regions post 25. At that point you're a done deal and can only improve at specific tasks due to continued plasticity in the hippocampus, and will never ever learn them to fluency
(Not) God at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:27:28 UTC No. 16349720
>>16349698
Then why can old people start smoking meth and become really good at it even good enough for it to turn em gay?
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 21:40:29 UTC No. 16349923
>>16349631
TLDR and your argument is invalid because of the following jpeg folder I found from google images.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 21:52:45 UTC No. 16349947
>>16349923
so its worse than op thought and you actually get dumber lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 21:54:32 UTC No. 16349949
>>16349456
>why is intelligence constant then
It isn't, though. There's cognitive decline as we age. It's not to the extent that it becomes incredibly noticeable but it does exist.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 21:55:12 UTC No. 16349952
>>16349947
worse some factors literally go to 0. if you start dumb life just gets harder and harder... why even bother lol.
cant get smarter only dumber
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 21:58:24 UTC No. 16349957
>>16349923
why were old people ever revered? they're scientifically proven to be retarded
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:19:34 UTC No. 16349992
Must be that they're being replaced with lower quality, less myelinated neurons as you age
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:23:06 UTC No. 16349997
>>16349957
Greater life experience is nonetheless very useful. Remember, the world has never changed faster than it has now, so once upon a time your grandfather in his seventies grew up in the exact same world and circumstances as you and would have all sorts of useful advices and wisdom from that. Unfortunately, thanks to the rapid sophistication of technology and enormous and swift cultural shifts our grandparents grew up in completely different worlds to us, which renders much of their experience and wisdom much less useful than it used to be
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:41:17 UTC No. 16350017
so to sum up that neuroplasticity is completely useless if you can only get more stupid and can’t get smarter. The brain only works in one way to either stay the same or stagnate. I hate this world
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:48:25 UTC No. 16350028
>>16350017
You can functionally improve intelligence by improving physical health.
Things which have been proven to have negative effects on cognition include
>overuse of the internet (shortened attention span and worsened memory)
>imbalanced diet
>over/under eating
>lack of exercise
>obesity
>bad sleep habits
>spending too much time inside with closed windows (there’s less oxygen inside buildings which affects cognition)
>isolation
>stress
So functionally you can improve intelligence by improving your general health and life circumstances
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:49:30 UTC No. 16350031
>>16350028
>>16350017
The internet is especially bad for memory which is probably the most important aspect of general intelligence, so reducing screen time is very useful
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:12:55 UTC No. 16350058
>>16349456
I feel like I've gotten dumber ever since I got addicted to masturbation.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:15:26 UTC No. 16350063
>>16350058
That’s because abuse of your dopamine-production has shrunken your prefrontal cortex (and some other parts of the brain IIRC). This can be reversed by Nofap, or greatly reducing the amount you masturbate and never doing it to porn
This does not just apply to porn though - anything that abuses your dopamine production does the same thing (think TikTok, unhealthy foods, gaming, etc)
Barkon at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:33:44 UTC No. 16350081
>>16350063
Get in bed with anyone and rub my message out of them. They look as intelligent as me exactly. Perhaps I did something to everyone.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:42:32 UTC No. 16350090
>>16349957
who cares
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:46:34 UTC No. 16350096
>>16349947
yes... unless you get a neuralink from astroboi installed in your brain. (Also it reaches its maximum at 22, it doesn't decrease completely)
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 04:17:17 UTC No. 16350455
>>16349456
>if neuroplasticity of the brain exists, why is intelligence constant then?
Anon, stupid people refuse to believe in IQ, just like ugly ones refuse to accept objective beauty.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 04:52:30 UTC No. 16350495
>>16349507
where are you?
Raphael at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 05:23:27 UTC No. 16350516
>>16349456
You can increase neuroplasticity but you can’t increase FSIQ it’s just synapses firing quicker
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:13:26 UTC No. 16350688
>>16349456
Intelligence isn't constant.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:16:36 UTC No. 16350735
>>16350688
correct. it can only deteriorate, you cannot increase it
>>16350516
and why so?
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:45:24 UTC No. 16350773
waiting for the mathfags' usual "duh math increases iq" spiel lmao cant defy physics bb
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:14:04 UTC No. 16351058
>>16349923
are there any studies where they attempt to stop the decrease? also i would like to see the same diagram for single individuals and if the trend of those curves applies to everyone. i need to cope.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:30:34 UTC No. 16351075
>>16351058
There was keyword, that if you know your intellect would increase, but we runned out of supply, you're late.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:41:48 UTC No. 16351083
>>16351075
I don't think you increased it enough
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:43:30 UTC No. 16351412
>>16349631
It's not even constant throughout a day. When you wake up it takes a while to unretard yourself.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:45:05 UTC No. 16351417
>>16349957
They know the world before it got kiked
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 02:08:00 UTC No. 16352032
>>16349698
My understanding is that there's some stuff you can only properly learn during early childhood, e.g. language acquisition and absolute pitch. But the 25 thing sounds like bullshit to me. Plenty of people go back to school and successfully switch careers later in life, for example.
Can you name anything that a 20yo can fluently learn but a 40yo cannot?
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:43:04 UTC No. 16352342
>>16349456
>inteligence is a constant
>kids doing test score 133 on IQ test in elementary
>kids get introduced to degenerate hobbies and midlife crisis people
>average retake of the IQ tests shows fall in IQ to 74-90
inteligence isn´t constant
what is social and not encyclopedic, is cancer
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 11:01:32 UTC No. 16352451
>>16352342
it only decreases though, never increases.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 11:04:00 UTC No. 16352453
>>16352451
You probably know about males ballet. I was gonna perform for you but not if you already know. My projection 2 is probably the highest grandmaster at everything including Olympics and sport/ board games, martial arts, espionage (in codic form)
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:20:38 UTC No. 16352721
>>16351083
I don't do. But you can get few substances off the internet, that measurable makes your intellect better.
I can't because I forgot to take my meds, and now they are watching me too closely.
Raphael at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 23:56:56 UTC No. 16354813
>>16351058
Exercise
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:50:19 UTC No. 16355527
>>16349631
This could be because people are typically unambitious as the norm.
You gotta be careful in analyzing the general population. It would be better to sample a group of improoooovers
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 18:58:43 UTC No. 16355593
>>16355527
do you really believe that? everyone works hard. it's just genes that determine who wins
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 13:31:04 UTC No. 16356601
>>16355593
When you inherit money, of course.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 13:44:49 UTC No. 16356625
>>16355527
Well, it depends on current mental state. You can get like ~20% up or down depeding on which pill you ate.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 14:26:37 UTC No. 16356674
>>16356625
lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 14:32:54 UTC No. 16356684
>>16356674
Softgel pills are fucking worst. Do you want to hear a story about perfect smugller and whorehouse?
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:04:03 UTC No. 16356715
>>16349691
Schekelbergs
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:05:59 UTC No. 16356719
>>16356715
(((they)))
Most Jewish name I ever heard.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:07:39 UTC No. 16356720
>>16349631
You're going to regret that you'll die in 10 years.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:11:06 UTC No. 16356725
>>16349631
Mech, psychology. According to neuro"science" all you need is BDNF and it'll go up.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:22:20 UTC No. 16356743
>>16349456
representational drift scares the neuroscientist
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:24:03 UTC No. 16356748
>>16349631
>>16355593
>everyone works hard.
Surely you jest. This is like saying that physical strength and muscle growth are static after age 20 until they begin to decline in old age because most people make no effort to improve it. If you make no effort to improve a function of your body then it's not going to improve. If all you do is eat slop and scroll on your phone or watch tv then yeah, you're not getting any smarter.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:24:11 UTC No. 16356749
>>16356725
>all you need
yeah sure I'll just mainline cerebrolysin and bankrupt myself in a year
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:26:16 UTC No. 16356750
>>16356748
Comparing brain to muscle is a bad analogy. The brain loses the vast majority of its plasticity after childhood. Then there's a small high synaptic pruning window in late adolescence, but after that, you're a done deal.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:36:06 UTC No. 16356773
>>16356749
$40 per 10g of 7,8-DHF
But medicine can always come up with uneconomical decisions.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:37:06 UTC No. 16356778
>>16356749
Wait, Meth, Coke, do you even read?
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:46:24 UTC No. 16356792
>>16356750
>it's 2024 and there are still unironic posts about muh synapses as if there's nothing more to neural activity
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 16:40:31 UTC No. 16356857
>>16356778
>just do drugs lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 16:41:36 UTC No. 16356861
>>16356792
Where's your cope lie because it sure isnt borne out in any stats
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 17:09:57 UTC No. 16356898
>>16356857
But they increase serum BDNF...
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 17:15:40 UTC No. 16356908
>>16356898
And ruin everything else
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 17:19:36 UTC No. 16356915
>>16356908
Source?
Last time I've red meth study, it seemed like all the toxicity was about more smaller neurons with bigger connectonome and it was expressed as "abnormal"
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 17:19:51 UTC No. 16356916
>>16356915
OK meth mouth
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 17:38:13 UTC No. 16356930
>>16356861
i'm not saying childhood/adolescent synaptic pruning doesn't exist, i'm saying synapses are just a small part of neural activity (and potentially the least interesting part)
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 17:38:43 UTC No. 16356932
>>16356916
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar
First study without hypothesis happened in 2021, before than, everybody was just overdosing rats...
Can you imagine how many rat days one meth dose is? How much sleep they miss? Because human miss one sleep on meth, rat much more.
Why you DEA faggots always try to scare people?
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 18:33:52 UTC No. 16356996
I'm always suspicious when people who can't spell talk about how they successfully enhanced their brain
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 20:51:07 UTC No. 16357222
>>16356996
just like take the drugs mang
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 07:44:34 UTC No. 16358012
men, speling has notihng to do with IQ
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 12:52:41 UTC No. 16358263
>>16350063
how does fapping shrinken your fluid iq nigger show a study
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 12:53:12 UTC No. 16358264
>>16350735
g is fixed nigga
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 12:53:49 UTC No. 16358267
>>16352342
childhood iq tests arent that accurate
wait till theyre 22
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 12:54:47 UTC No. 16358269
>>16356725
retard that just retains it
vitamin d does raise fsiq by 1 point tho
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:02:38 UTC No. 16358283
>>16358264
Not true lol it rises up to adulthood and then rapidly falls off a cliff, IQs just age adjusted
If you mean there's nothing a human can do to prevent the development and deterioration sure
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:04:16 UTC No. 16358285
>>16358283
In fact your are providing avarage, not deviation or it's shape. I'm sure outliers exists.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:16:23 UTC No. 16358300
>>16358285
Prove it lol
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:29:25 UTC No. 16358314
>>16358300
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar
It seems like brain can work better if you feed it well.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:48:52 UTC No. 16358353
>>16358314
>>16358300
Actually if you want I can recommend you mix, that'll get you cognitively much better.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:55:26 UTC No. 16358358
>>16358353
There's warning issued about what are you about to do, and they've made it into a movie.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 14:07:49 UTC No. 16358373
>>16358283
Retard that’s cognitive decline
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 17:14:21 UTC No. 16358582
>>16358353
Let's hear it, at the least it won't kill me probably
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 17:59:12 UTC No. 16358648
>>16358582
7,8-DHF (BDNF + TrkB)
NSI-189 (Modulates BDNF receptor)
Phenylpiracetam (Hated by anti-doping organisation)(Some specific nicotine binding)
Noopept(Increases natural hippocampal BDNF)
Always have enough tyrosine, tryptophan, phenylalanine, choline, so you don't burn out.
Phenibut(To slow down a little bit)
DMAE(That's choline thing)
Dose is something you should look up on internet. Also look at elimination half life on each of this components when looking.
I've reached 99.9% percentil verbal memory on human benchmark only on phenylpiracetam and noopept + crystal meth. Now I don't do anything and I'm like 90% percentil...
I've red lot about first two compounds, but those fucking border control confiscated it from my package.
Also omega-3, DHA
Gotu-Cola
You should also have some breaks from it while taking it, you know if you do it nonstop it's not so effective.
Skills you aquire on this combo remain, they're just slightly foged, rereading notes is good when "sober".
Avoid coffein, 7,8-DHF causes long term potentiation and elevated glutamate on it's own.
Also NMN for energy.
Maybe combined with ketogenic diet can improve even further. You should study a little bit about those material and also find time to relax.
Maybe methium selene, and phosphatydiserine can even improve outcomes.
It's not medical advice, it's just that I've sorted information on substances for improved conclusion and provided you few to study.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:45:45 UTC No. 16360695
>>16349456
i don't know
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 06:57:34 UTC No. 16363411
>>16349456
>why is intelligence constant then?
If your intelligence is constant, why can't you correctly answer basic math questions in your sleep?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 11:48:00 UTC No. 16363655
>>16349949
Oh believe me it is noticeable
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:30:52 UTC No. 16363703
>>16349631
But that snippet invalidates itself entirely in the last part.
Anon, this is good chance for you to learn, it will save you a lot of time and effort the earlier you realize it. Psychology is not a real scientific field and is full of garbage like this. Old ideas that have no basis in science but are popular to say because they make you sound smart when you say it. This concept comes from about 1920, when they barely had any idea how the brain functions.
If you want real information, go to neuroscience or other hard science fields.