🗑️ 🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:47:54 UTC No. 16360701
Gaia Protects Edition
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Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:52:05 UTC No. 16360710
Hey I see youre using my staging method to gain OP priority. Please warn of incoming stage I was about to do the same and wouldve accidentally split but I noticed your pushing of page 10 threads before I posted.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:54:25 UTC No. 16360712
>>16360708
>Be socialist judge
>Look like a cartoon villain
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:54:40 UTC No. 16360714
>>16360710
my apologies, i'd notify the thread but while that might inform you, i fear it would also invite trolls to intentionally failstage out of spite.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:54:48 UTC No. 16360715
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:56:32 UTC No. 16360717
>>16360710
Do people really push off threads just to bake /sfg/ threads with their gay OPs? Mental illness.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:56:41 UTC No. 16360718
>>16360714
Thats a good point, Ill just try to keep a lookout for it then.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:57:32 UTC No. 16360722
>>16360717
oh i'm sorry, you'd rather want another /pol/ op instead?
kill yourself.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:59:05 UTC No. 16360725
>>16360718
i was also refreshing the page before i posted the OP to see if anyone got ahead of me so i could abort my own staging, so no worries, if you beat me to it i would've just not staged.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:01:05 UTC No. 16360733
>>16360722
Who cares about he OP of a thread? No one sane.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:02:44 UTC No. 16360735
>>16360733
wait, are you the trump OP guy, is that why you're upset, because someone stole your thunder? lol, please tell me you are.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:03:02 UTC No. 16360736
>>16360717
Thats how I did it from post IFT-2, around December all the way until April? Then I took a break from baking for the summer and then I come back, current OP is using my methods. Staging that way ensures page 10 stage is achieved the instant it is resched. Its usually done because shit threads like that last page 9 no previous link happen so that diligent OPs can ensure that a good thread is made with all the things that enable it to be legitimized like page 10 stage and screenshot but also be as fast as possible. Ive talked about how I do this in multiple threads before, usually people that dont know that or shit OPs or newfags.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:03:14 UTC No. 16360737
https://x.com/SpaceOffshore/status/
>What are we looking at? I had a crack at labeling some of the features of the new Blue Origin Landing Barge. Original Photo from Blue. Forewarning that some/all of these could be wrong.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:03:23 UTC No. 16360738
>>16360701
could starship have an launch abort system?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:04:15 UTC No. 16360743
>>16360735
He likely is. Last time I had someone whine about my methods it was when we got like 5 consecutive political OPs and I had to step in.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:05:12 UTC No. 16360745
>>16360736
i've basically been doing what you're describing on and off since the IFT-2 debacle, though probably not as frequently as you.
recently however, i've decided to step it up a bit more, and will try my best if a staging oppertunity is my my timezone, because of the absolute lackluster quality of OP's we've had in recent times.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:07:10 UTC No. 16360749
>>16360733
>who cares about the cleanliness of a toilet, no one sane.
sorry this is /sfg/ low-brow individuals are not welcome here. please return to the jungle.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:08:28 UTC No. 16360753
>>16360735
Nah, never baked since around '07 on /b/. And by the sound of it I never have to. Just wondering about people taking it so seriously.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:10:43 UTC No. 16360754
>>16360749
Yeah, I don't go out of my way to clean public toilets.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:11:04 UTC No. 16360755
>>16360753
you're asking why people are autistic on /sfg/ anon.
most people are simply not fond of some tourist injecting his personal political obsessions into the OP, and would prefer to have a good OP instead.
the OP often sets the tone of the thread, threads with political ops have noticeably larger amounts of off-topic bickering.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:11:54 UTC No. 16360758
>>16360753
>guys ive totally been here since 2007 look at this slang
sure bud. and im jeff bezos
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:12:05 UTC No. 16360759
>>16360754
this is more like a private club's toilet, an outsider who shits on the rim is going to get strung up and never found again.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:13:16 UTC No. 16360763
>>16360758
>>16360753
Also also nobody remembers the last time they baked a thread especially when that was almost 17 years ago
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:15:14 UTC No. 16360767
>>16360738
It could but it won’t but it should
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:15:27 UTC No. 16360768
>>16360763
yeah this guy >>16360753 seems to care an awful lot about not caring about how much everyone else cares about the OP lol.
sounds like sour grapes because he wanted to do a shitty OP but can't do it now.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:19:06 UTC No. 16360777
/sped fight general/
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:19:41 UTC No. 16360779
>>16360758
Since '06, but not like it matters. Pretty sure I didn't use any slang exclusive to chans.
>>16360755
I haven't noticed any difference. Sometimes maybe a few anons bitching about the OP, but nothing excessive and the thread just goes on like normal.
>>16360759
Sounds like maybe forums would be more up your alley, if circlejerks are what you enjoy.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:21:07 UTC No. 16360781
Oh hes fuming, trying to play it off though
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:22:17 UTC No. 16360785
>he's now actively trying to defend the off-topic OP's
very convincing.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:23:16 UTC No. 16360787
>>16360785
They twist their logic into pretzels once pushed into a corner.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:26:45 UTC No. 16360792
Despite all autists and schizos, this place is still much better than twitter
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:28:05 UTC No. 16360796
>>16360792
and it will take dilligence to keep it that way.
gatekeeping shouldn't be overbearing but it should be kept at a healthy level.
newfags trying to inject their unrelated political simping into the OP deserve to be bullied relentlessly.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:31:54 UTC No. 16360801
>>16360797
>they're instantly requesting to use hopper as a mule to mount all their griftercams onto.
cringe and never gonna happen but getting a higher view over the fence would be cool.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:33:43 UTC No. 16360803
>>16360768
Just an anon mostly lurking. Thanks for the (You) at least.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:34:36 UTC No. 16360804
>>16360701
mars doesn't have a sexually arousing goddess of life to annihilate rocks coming from space, how will they ever compete? martian cities will constantly be getting randomly wiped out over the course of thousands of years.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:37:10 UTC No. 16360809
>>16360738
No. But should it? Also no. Aircraft have wings to glide if they lose an engine, Starship has redundant engines if they lose an engine, and in both cases if there's a vehicle superstructure failure everyone dies. If it's acceptable for aircraft carrying babies and white women it's acceptable for rockets carrying informed & consenting adults.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:37:29 UTC No. 16360810
>>16360803
>a-a-at least you gave me your (you)'s
defeated male leaves
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:38:45 UTC No. 16360811
>>16360810
Thats not me from the last thread btw
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:38:57 UTC No. 16360812
>>16360801
Can't they just stick a pole to their cars?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:38:58 UTC No. 16360813
>>16360738
that's genius actually, shape the LOX header tank to look like an escape hatch so cowards get selectively culled by the cryogenic liquid.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:39:58 UTC No. 16360814
>>16360811
i never said it was, why did you need to point this out to me?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:40:50 UTC No. 16360817
>>16360737
Why so many radars?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:41:12 UTC No. 16360818
>>16360812
you'd need quite a big pole to mount all of their camera's up 20 meters in the air.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:42:29 UTC No. 16360819
>>16360817
speaking of, isn't there an option for blorgin to use lidar on final approach if their algorithms suck too much compared to spacex?
actually, why not just use lidar for the superheavy booster catch?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:42:34 UTC No. 16360821
>>16360814
Similar situationp very close in time to each other would lead an assumption that they are infact samefagged even thoug they were not,
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:43:30 UTC No. 16360822
>>16360821
yeah that often happens, but i wasn't thinking that.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:45:35 UTC No. 16360825
>>16360823
his ACK will inspire millions.
everyone living on mars after it's colonized and terraformed will forever remember his life, his ACK-ing and his name, he will be a patron saint for an entire planet.
who will remember you?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:45:46 UTC No. 16360826
>>16360823
No greentext + not Mark Watney = failed trollpost
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:45:52 UTC No. 16360827
thread is shaping up awfully, thanks everyone
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:45:59 UTC No. 16360828
>>16360813
like dead mice building up in an open jug of peanut oil I forgot in my basement that time
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:47:28 UTC No. 16360832
>>16360827
the initial stages were just the trump OP guy seething we're back on track now.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:47:42 UTC No. 16360833
>>16360827
Would it make you feel better if I tried to force a conversation about crewed electric spacecraft and their uses in our solar system?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:48:51 UTC No. 16360835
>>16360833
What even is electric propulsion? Ion drives? What is “nuclear electric”?
What are the different types of electric propulsion
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:49:09 UTC No. 16360836
>>16360833
Now Im actually interested what does it mean if its 'electric'?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:50:13 UTC No. 16360838
>>16360833
we should create a crewed electric spacecraft to travel to mars and put nig astronauts on it and not tell them that it won't reach mars in time before they die of old age,
as a joke.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:51:24 UTC No. 16360839
>>16360835
propulsion that uses electric potential rather than chemical potential to propel mass out of the thruster.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:53:17 UTC No. 16360845
>>16360839
So an ion drive thanks dick
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:54:24 UTC No. 16360847
>>16360531
thousands newfag
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:55:10 UTC No. 16360849
>>16360845
if you want to be pedantic about it, sure. do you not like that electric propulsion is a term that people use for this?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:56:38 UTC No. 16360850
>>16360810
The rest seem to have stopped replying and started seeking protection from the tribe. Didn't mean it in a negative way towards you necessarily.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:57:21 UTC No. 16360851
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:57:47 UTC No. 16360853
>>16360845
no, newfag, there's also electric propulsion that runs arcs through or next to the propellant in order to heat it up so it expands and provides more thrust than a cold gas thruster.
this doesn't necessarily imply ionization of the propellants themselves.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:58:48 UTC No. 16360854
>>16360851
this is an electrochemical rocket.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:00:17 UTC No. 16360859
>>16360854
it fits your provided definition, so refine your definition
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:02:57 UTC No. 16360863
>>16360859
i already did, rutherford engines fall into the category of engines that use both electric and chemical potential.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:03:48 UTC No. 16360865
>>16360853
> The electrothermal category groups devices that use electromagnetic fields to generate a plasma to increase the temperature of the bulk propellant. The thermal energy imparted to the propellant gas is then converted into kinetic energy by a nozzle of either solid material or magnetic fields. Low molecular weight gases (e.g. hydrogen, helium, ammonia) are preferred propellants for this kind of system.
>An electrothermal engine uses a nozzle to convert heat into linear motion, so it is a true rocket even though the energy producing the heat comes from an external source.
>Performance of electrothermal systems in terms of specific impulse (Isp) is 500 to ~1000 seconds, but exceeds that of cold gas thrusters, monopropellant rockets, and even most bipropellant rockets. In the USSR, electrothermal engines entered use in 1971; the Soviet "Meteor-3", "Meteor-Priroda", "Resurs-O" satellite series and the Russian "Elektro" satellite are equipped with them.[26] Electrothermal systems by Aerojet (MR-510) are currently used on Lockheed Martin A2100 satellites using hydrazine as a propellant.
Is this not exactly what you described? It says plasma, which is an ionized gas. This is also listed under 'ion & plasma drives' under wikipedia.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:06:33 UTC No. 16360867
>>16360865
sure, but the vast majority of the ejected reaction mass itself just gets heated up, it is never ionized.
it's all pedantic, electric is a good catchall descriptor of every propulsion method that involves the use of electricity.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:06:47 UTC No. 16360868
>>16360863
Wrong it uses electric potential to drive chemical kinetic out of the thruster
Ergo, it is electric propulsion. At least according to you
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:08:06 UTC No. 16360872
>>16359676
kek, I've seen a lot of pictures of public places in Russia (the Moscow subway for one example) and a lot of pictures of public places in the US (subway stations in NYC for example) that beg to differ
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:08:35 UTC No. 16360874
>After arrival the crew will need to spend 2 years on Mars before the Earth return launch window opens
oh, I heard differently
If the entire mission has a minimum run time of three years, the astronauts are going to be physically wrecked.
Their bones probably aren't even going to exist by the end, they'll be husks.
The prospects for physical rehabilitation from that level of exposure are slim to none.
Musk had better be paying them VERY well, all I'm gonna say.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:08:39 UTC No. 16360875
>fighting over why to say electric propulsion instead of ion propulsion.
very strange general
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:08:52 UTC No. 16360876
>starliner team is hoping that if the thrusters up and die, the SPRINGS on the docking port themselves will be enough to get shartliner to fuck off.
lol, lmao.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:09:58 UTC No. 16360878
>>16360868
no, it isn't, you just have poor reading comprehension.
RATHER THAN
and you somehow read IN ADDITION TO.
i'd suggest buying some reading glasses.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:11:23 UTC No. 16360881
>>16360717
its just good practice if you want to make sure the OP isn't fucked up
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:12:04 UTC No. 16360884
energy powered propulsion.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:12:56 UTC No. 16360885
>>16360753
because when the threads get fucked up for a reason or another, splits happen and then people talk about completely off topic shit like we are right now instead of actual spaceflight
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:13:56 UTC No. 16360887
>>16360884
My braps have energy. Am I considered energy powered propulsion?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:14:19 UTC No. 16360888
>>16360885
the only reason that meta conversation kept going is because he had to wine that he wasn't able to split the thread this time.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:15:13 UTC No. 16360889
Electric propulsion that can use water will open up the Belt and Callisto
>The core idea behind the spacecoach architecture is the use of water, and potentially waste streams, as propellant in electric engines. Water, life support, and consumables are critical elements in a long-duration mission and, in a conventional ship, are dead weight that must be pushed around by propellant that cannot be used for other purposes. Water in a spacecoach, on the other hand, can be used for many things before it is reclaimed and sent to the engines, and it can be treated as working mass. This, combined with the increased propellant efficiency of electric engines, leads to a virtuous cycle that results in dramatic cost reductions compared to conventional ships while increasing mission capabilities. Cost reductions of one or two orders of magnitude, which would make travel to destinations throughout the inner solar system routine, are possible with this approach.
https://www.thespacereview.com/arti
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:15:22 UTC No. 16360890
>>16360785
lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:15:23 UTC No. 16360891
>>16360885
We are discussing electric propulsion on spacecrafts and the correct terminology to use this is entirely space related what are you on
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:15:26 UTC No. 16360892
>>16360887
yes, your reaction mass is farts and also your mechanical propulsion system powered by chemical reactions uses the earth as reaction mass.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:16:15 UTC No. 16360893
>>16360872
>CountriesWhereYouCanDrinkTheTapWat
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:17:24 UTC No. 16360894
>>16360878
No I didnt. You yourself said rutherford uses electric potential
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:17:39 UTC No. 16360895
>thread starts with meta whining about people being too dilligent with the OP
>oh my god this thread is so lame nobody is talking about spaceflight
>thread shifts to autistic debate about the semantics of electric propulsion terminology
>oh my god this is completely off-topic when will we talk about spaceflight
are the people complaining just bots?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:19:16 UTC No. 16360897
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:19:19 UTC No. 16360898
>>16360895
And now we are back at stage one with your meta shit, congrats on “contributing”
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:19:36 UTC No. 16360899
>>16360833
yes
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:21:11 UTC No. 16360900
>>16360898
Shut up moran YWNGTS
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:21:49 UTC No. 16360902
>>16360893
I don’t get it, is this a dunk drinkable tap water countries that “make the frogs gay” with fluoride? Or is it making fun of russia being enemies with every developed nation
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:21:51 UTC No. 16360903
>>16360872
sure if you cherrypick parts of petersburg and moscow where all the serf money flows, you'll find it looks somewhat like a 2nd world country.
pretty much anywhere outside of central moscow and petersburg is third world at this point, both in terms of infrastructure and ethnicity.
it's not surprising their spaceflight program has been in stagnation ever since they lost the colonies where most of their talent came from.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:22:28 UTC No. 16360906
>>16360876
its over, saarliner is a permanent addition
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:23:30 UTC No. 16360907
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:24:31 UTC No. 16360909
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:25:22 UTC No. 16360911
>>16360909
>>16360907
water towers can roll! yes!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:25:42 UTC No. 16360912
>>16360907
1000 years from now, it will be part of a shrine, and a mecca that martians make the long journey to earth for.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:25:42 UTC No. 16360913
>>16360889
shart propulsion
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:27:35 UTC No. 16360916
>>16360854
>Electron is an electrochemical rocket because it has electric fuel pumps
Look at this retard and laugh.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:27:59 UTC No. 16360918
>>16360911
Thats insane
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:29:40 UTC No. 16360920
>>16360916
nobody is doing that, because i am not a retard, i'm right.
electric power makes up a signficant part of the forces at play in the engine, they fully power the pumps.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:31:10 UTC No. 16360921
>>16360920
The chemical reaction that propels Electron does not care what method is used to feed kerolox into the engines.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:31:10 UTC No. 16360922
>>16360894
it doesn't ONLY use electric potential, which i specified.
but once again your low verbal intellect fails you.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:32:02 UTC No. 16360923
>>16360845
hey retard, have you considered there are a whole range of electric thruster options besides ion drives and you're being incredibly defensive about your total lack of knowlege?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:32:31 UTC No. 16360924
>>16360921
it actually directly affects the speed and efficiency of the reaction because the electrically driven pumps increase pressure in the combustion chamber.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:36:34 UTC No. 16360928
>>16360701
can we justify a martian laser defense system as dual use for asteroid defense and military action? i feel like that overlap would make funding significantly easier.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:37:28 UTC No. 16360930
Electron movement in chemical reactions means all chemical rockets are electric.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:38:42 UTC No. 16360934
>>16360930
batteries, solar panels and ion thrusters use chemicals and so all electric rockets are actually chemical.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:39:13 UTC No. 16360935
>>16360922
Yes I understand the difference between “only” and “also”
I’m just pointing out you are wrong by your own provided definition and ALSO an illiterate retard
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:40:32 UTC No. 16360938
>>16360928
Just build one to brake laser thermal roggets and make it dual use
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:40:50 UTC No. 16360939
>>16360934
nuclearpulsecels on suicide watch, chemical patriots in control
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:41:02 UTC No. 16360940
>>16360936
...i miss my hairline, dudes...
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:41:24 UTC No. 16360942
>>16360936
thats insane
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:43:51 UTC No. 16360944
>>16360939
That’s still chemicals. The only thing I can think of is maybe solar sails? Although not really because that’s momentum from photons from a reaction of hydrogen and helium in the Sun. It’s all chemical
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:43:52 UTC No. 16360945
>>16360935
nope, sorry your low verbal IQ once again prevents you from actually reading >>16360839
>propulsion that uses electric potential RATHER than chemical potential
>rather than
>instead of
>so never both at the same time, only propulsion that ONLY uses electric potential and not some combination of both
rutherford is not an electric rocket, which i gave the original definition for, because it uses a combination, which is why i classified it differently as an electrochemical rocket.
try and keep up.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:44:44 UTC No. 16360946
>>16360924
Again, the Rutherford engines on an Electron do not care how the fuel is pumped into them, if electric pumps were actually an improvement then they wouldn't be a unicorn that Rocket Lab is moving away from.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:44:52 UTC No. 16360948
>>16360944
>the sun is just a big chemical reaction
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:45:47 UTC No. 16360949
>>16360945
Okay so please provide an example of an engine type that uses ONLY electrical potential energy
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:46:39 UTC No. 16360951
>>16360946
Electric pumps have a viable economic case in the small launch space. They just can't handle larger applications because batteries get heavy too quickly. It's an energy density problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:46:48 UTC No. 16360953
>>16360948
it’s chemicals undergoing a nuclear reaction
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:48:02 UTC No. 16360956
>>16360946
electric pumps are an improvement over a pressure fed rocket where the pressure inside the main prop tanks are what ultimately decides the combustion chamber pressure.
the electric pumps and the batteries that drive them significantly contribute to overall engine performance as a result of affecting the combustion pressure which in turn affects the chemical reaction, and as a result this is an electrochemical engine.
this wasn't a dickmeasuring contest to debate whether or not it's better than a good old regular turbopumps, it's not.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:49:35 UTC No. 16360957
>>16360949
multiple were given before you even mentioned rutherford, ion propulsion being one of them.
it's ok anon, you argued yourself into a corner, people make mistakes sometimes, the key is for you to learn to be better and not make such silly reading comprehension mistakes next time.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:50:51 UTC No. 16360959
>>16360835
Electric propulsion is any form of propulsion which relies on electromagnetic force to accelerate a propellant for thrust. For example ion drives, magnetohydrodynamic thrusters, plasma rockets, and technically even things like coil guns are all forms of electric propulsion.
Characteristics common to all electric thrusters is that they tend to be much lower thrust to mass ratio than chemical rockets, but also tend to have much greater propellant velocities, which equals greater propellant momentum and therefore higher efficiency.
Electric propulsion obviously requires an electric power supply. Broadly, the two relevant generation methods in space are nuclear fission and solar photovoltaics. A solar electric rocket is one which uses solar panels to generate the wattage necessary to run its thruster, and a nuclear electric rocket uses a fission reactor to do the same.
Overall the effective differences between SE and NE spacecraft can be summed up as: SE spacecraft are lighter & cheaper but cannot feasibly be used much further out from the Sun than the asteroid belt/Jupiter, and NE rockets are heavier and MUCH more expensive but have no ties to the Sun as an energy source and can gain a bit of efficiency by using their own highly radioactive nuclear reactor to heat and partially ionize their propellants (though this perk is limited to specific thruster designs which themselves aren't the most efficient).
The key advantage shared by both kinds of electric propulsion vehicle is that their efficiency is so high (as high as 40,000s, or about 100x that of a chemical rocket) that they can go pretty much anywhere in the solar system. The key disadvantage to both is that they accelerate very slowly, so take a long time to do any mission. This effectively means that they are only really viable for very long distance high delta V missions, and are out-competed by chemical rockets for any mission that chemical rockets are physically capable of.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:52:02 UTC No. 16360962
>>16360949
Microwave electrothermal thrusters, resistojet or arcjet thrusters, VASMIR engines, hall effect thrusters, colloid electrostatic thrusters... Pretty much anything that uses a monopropellant and has a lot of electrical current as an operating requirement.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:52:17 UTC No. 16360963
>>16360838
Nuclear electric spacecraft that take a year to spiral out from LEO to the Moon and back, no landing. Microwave droning noises as the astronauts marinate in the VA belts
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:52:21 UTC No. 16360964
all propulsion is actually atomic propulsion because all of them use atoms to do stuff.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:53:22 UTC No. 16360966
i don't like this /sfg/
i want to go back to the muscular bug leg room.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:55:13 UTC No. 16360970
>>16360953
A bare proton isn't a chemical
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:56:21 UTC No. 16360971
>>16360970
it's still part of a chemical.
just because you break a cracker in half doesn't make it not a cracker.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:56:36 UTC No. 16360972
>>16360963
The only spacecraft that take trajectories like that are unmanned craft with sub-kilowatt engines that measure their thrust in hummingbird farts instead of newtons. Any crewed spacecraft with an electric propulsion system would have a mutli-megawatt reactor and an engine putting out a few hundred newtons of continuous thrust.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:57:53 UTC No. 16360973
Would Musk undo his Twitter purchase if he could?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:58:51 UTC No. 16360974
>>16360972
we could decrease the cost of these missions by taping hummingbirds to the side
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:02:26 UTC No. 16360979
>>16360928
Basically required if Martians want to be independent from their mother world.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:03:34 UTC No. 16360981
>>16360973
I would say yes
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:03:36 UTC No. 16360982
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:03:56 UTC No. 16360983
>>16360865
An ion thruster is *specifically* a thruster that uses an electromagnetic potential to accelerate ions out of a chamber at high velocity. Ion drives do not operate on a thermal principal, rather they are more like particle accelerators.
This is opposed to a plasma rocket, which although also contains ions, expands *thermally* due to the kinetic energy of the particles. A gas is heated via microwaves or some other mechanism until it is hot enough to dissociate into plasma. This plasma can then expand out of a magnetic nozzle to produce thrust.
An MHD thruster is like a plasma rocket except instead of simply allowing the plasma to expand thermally, a strong electric current is applied which causes the plasma to accelerate via the lorentz force.
On the less efficient size of things there are also arcjets, most similar to a plasma rocket as described above, except these thrusters typically operate at a much higher mass flow rate, sacrificing efficiency for greater thrust and lower temperatures (which preserves the lifetime of the heating element).
Lastly, the least efficient version I'll mention is the resistojet, which uses a simple heater coil to warm a cold gas and produce thrust via gas expansion through a typical looking nozzle. Resistojets operate at colder temperatures than chemical rockets but if you run a light gas like hydrogen through them they can still achieve efficiencies nearly twice as high as the best chemical engines.
Again, the main drawback to all of the above is the extremely low thrust to mass ratio these systems achieve compared to chemical rockets.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:04:38 UTC No. 16360985
>>16360981
you are retarded, recent events have shown exactly why it was so important for Musk to buy Twitter in the first place
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:04:41 UTC No. 16360986
>>16360973
maybe
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:06:10 UTC No. 16360990
>>16360973
50/50
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:06:30 UTC No. 16360993
>>16360973
He tried desperately to undo it and failed like a retard
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:06:55 UTC No. 16360995
>>16360985
Stop getting offtopic faggot.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:07:02 UTC No. 16360996
>>16360973
50/50
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:08:44 UTC No. 16360998
>>16360989
run them over with a backhoe
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:09:01 UTC No. 16361000
>>16360989
>locals
May we see their proof of address?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:09:12 UTC No. 16361001
>>16360993
due to the inflated cost, not due to not wanting to buy it
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:09:25 UTC No. 16361002
>>16360874
I think it's more like 18 months on mars, because the inbound and outbound phases have some offset between them.
That's why if you go for the gay "cycler" idea, you really need two cycler ships, unless you're just doing a flyby (which is even gayer).
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:09:53 UTC No. 16361003
>>16361001
copey cope cope
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:09:59 UTC No. 16361004
>>16360989
looks astroturfed
certain interest groups are obviously starting to panic that starship might actually become succesful, catching the booster is one of the last major engineering hurdles and the rest is pretty much all procedural issues from there.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:10:26 UTC No. 16361005
>>16360989
Machine gun them and feed their corpses to the sea turtles.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:11:13 UTC No. 16361006
>>16361003
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT MY NARRATIVE
>what if i don't
>I WILL GET VERY UPSET AND YELL COPE
ok, enjoy doing that.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:11:20 UTC No. 16361007
>>16361004
>certain interest groups are obviously starting to panic that starship might actually become succesful,
The Chinese Communist Party most of all. These people are traitors against America and should be dealt with accordingly.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:11:37 UTC No. 16361009
>>16360897
>countries where you can drink tap water
>USA
Then why do mutts all have that fluoride stare?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:11:57 UTC No. 16361010
>>16360854
Electric pump fed chemical rocket.
What defines the type of propulsion is what energy source is causing the propellant to change from cold and slow to hot and fast. How the propellants are pushed into the machine is irrelevant: for example, pressure fed rockets are still chemical rockets.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:13:33 UTC No. 16361013
>>16360897
Reminder that if your tap water is fluoridated or chlorinated or both then it is not drinkable.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:13:42 UTC No. 16361015
>>16360971
No electrons to bind/exchange = not chemical
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:13:59 UTC No. 16361016
>>16361009
why is it that the people that use the mutt insult are always brown thirdies that are even browner than the mutts they're supposedly mocking?
i'm a european, i get to call americans mutts
you're some thirdie who doesn't have a valued opinion on anything, you making fun of other people's skin color is laughable at best.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:14:06 UTC No. 16361017
>>16360868
Actually in a rutherford engine the energy source that turns the cold liquid propellants into hot dense gas is chemical. The propellant delivery method is irrelevant.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:14:53 UTC No. 16361019
>>16361006
I just demolished your argument
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:15:36 UTC No. 16361020
>>16360874
>If the entire mission has a minimum run time of three years, the astronauts are going to be physically wrecked
No proof of this: see bone and muscle loss solved on ISS after they discovered squatting with weight forces above double digit magnitude.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:15:38 UTC No. 16361021
>>16360973
not a chance
too based
he's generated FAR too much butthurt among the censorious statist bootlickers to even think about taking it back
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:16:04 UTC No. 16361023
>>16361019
sadly mantra's and magic spells don't work in the real world, you'll have to try something else.
also not the anon you were arguing with in the first place lol.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:16:39 UTC No. 16361025
>>16361020
>they discovered squatting
>>>/fit/
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:16:44 UTC No. 16361026
>gas generator spins a turbine
>turbine spins a generator
>generator creates electrical current
>electrical current spins an electric motor
>electric motor drives a fuel pump
Find a flaw with this arrangement. And no, don't say "muh efficiency".
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:17:46 UTC No. 16361028
>>16361020
Need to solve the eye degradation issue thoughbeit
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:18:10 UTC No. 16361029
>>16361016
>uuuuhhh jij bruin
Zeg neger, hou je bruine kankerbek toch dicht
Spreek een Europese taal om te bewijzen dat je geen vies bruin beest bent
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:18:33 UTC No. 16361030
>>16361026
too many moving parts
a single breakdown means you're fucked
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:18:40 UTC No. 16361031
>>16361007
They want to get paid substantially more than SpaceX offered for them to fuck off.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:19:07 UTC No. 16361035
>>16361026
>let's do a bunch of extra energy conversion steps to lose a bunch of it in the process.
is this some sort of chinese engine decoration feng shui?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:19:29 UTC No. 16361037
>>16360963
a crewed NEP spacecraft would use a chemical stage to propel it out of Earth's gravity well
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:19:48 UTC No. 16361039
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:19:53 UTC No. 16361040
>>16361033
>"we're building the largest brick in spaceflight"
return to steele or die
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:19:55 UTC No. 16361041
>>16361033
bankrupt
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:20:10 UTC No. 16361043
>>16361030
>too many moving parts
two.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:20:13 UTC No. 16361044
>>16361026
Loss of energy in every single part, so you always want to cut the amount of parts to the bare minimum.
Don't they teach you kids anything in school of value anymore?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:20:32 UTC No. 16361045
>>16361029
haha, het is een turk.
niet verassend, pak die dubbele visa en kanker op naar je kakkerlakkennest AUB
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:20:50 UTC No. 16361046
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:21:53 UTC No. 16361047
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:22:04 UTC No. 16361048
>>16360993
Elon tried to not be forced into paying double what twitter was worth.
That was years ago now, he feels justified in his purchase at this point given everything that has happened.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:22:51 UTC No. 16361050
>>16361044
>>16361035
>>16361030
Electrical power transmission allows you to use one large highly efficient gas generator and turbine to power thirty fuel pumps for thirty engines, instead of needing thirty smaller turbines.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:22:55 UTC No. 16361051
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:23:04 UTC No. 16361052
>>16361033
reminds me of that carbon composite submarine that imploded. why not just use steel which has proven itself time and again
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:23:23 UTC No. 16361053
>surinamese larping as dutch posting in their absurd language
Ghastly
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:23:28 UTC No. 16361054
>>16361045
Zeg mohamodder, stop eens met projecteren, blanker dan dat jij ooit kan dromen
Kanker toch een eind op naar marokko of welk ander woestijn schijtgat je ook vandaan komt nep-nederlander
t. blond haar blauwe ogen
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:23:37 UTC No. 16361055
>>16361048
Had he not bought twitter, he'd definitely be banned from it by now.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:24:39 UTC No. 16361057
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:24:48 UTC No. 16361058
>>16361050
Just stop posting.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:24:51 UTC No. 16361059
>>16361050
the prius of rocketry
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:26:33 UTC No. 16361063
>>16361033
Rocketlab gay and ngmi but their gigantic AFP machine is really fucking cool
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:27:15 UTC No. 16361064
>>16360973
Probably not. He got large enough that he needed some media somewhat under his control.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:28:09 UTC No. 16361065
>>16361054
>iemand paalt een grappig plaatje over het gedrag van siberische half-mongolen
>onmiddelijke deflectie naar de VS
ja ja, en mijn oma heeft een raketrolstoel.
iedereen weet dat 99% van de mensen die russisch sperma slurpen niet wit zijn.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:28:40 UTC No. 16361066
>>16361052
Steel and titanium pressure vessel DSVs have practical limits on internal volume due to the required mass rising very quickly. What they SHOULD have done is use aluminum.
>that's insane don't be retarded
It's been done and it worked great: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alumi
>muh fatigue limit
Easily quantifiable. Just build a new one when it wears out. It's not like every part on Alvin, including the pressure hull, hasn't been replaced several times.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:29:27 UTC No. 16361068
>>16361058
There is no reason to be upset Elon, I will sell you my idea for the price of one trip to Mars.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:30:34 UTC No. 16361070
>>16361065
Waarom begin je meteen aan pikken likken te denken? Flikker?
Rusland verdient nucleaire vernietiging mee eens maar om te doen alsof de VS drinkbaar kraanwater heeft?
Jij denkt zeker ook dat mannen vrouwen kunnen zijn ofzo
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:31:21 UTC No. 16361072
Are we even going to get an icy moons ocean submarine mission in our lifetimes?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:33:29 UTC No. 16361077
>>16361072
Yea but Starship needs to be operational and SLS/Artemis need to be dead so funds can be freed up towards more science missions at NASA
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:33:48 UTC No. 16361078
>>16361075
https://www.fool.com/investing/2024
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:33:48 UTC No. 16361079
>>16360889
Extremely true. All our asteroid research points to water being extremely common in the asteroid belt, not just confined to objects that have remained beyond the snow line for the entire solar system's history. It would be dumb to not align our electric rocket technology towards using water this early in the game, otherwise we could get stuck with hydrogen or god forbid ARGON and end up crippling our own future efforts to industrialize the asteroid belt, be it through additional ISRU complexity, or being hog tied to the planets for a propellant supply.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:34:10 UTC No. 16361080
>>16361075
Oh oh, I know the answer to this one! Me!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:34:14 UTC No. 16361081
still no one has disproved that "NTP" is the only way to get to Mars. I don't think there is anything I don't understand so why does everybody say that you can get there with chemical rockets? You can not
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:34:56 UTC No. 16361082
>>16361081
How have we gone to Mars before with probes?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:35:04 UTC No. 16361083
>>16360903
>sure if you cherrypick parts of Washington DC and NYC where all the goyim's money flows, you'll find it looks somewhat like a 1nd world country.
>pretty much anywhere outside of central DC and NYC is third world at this point, both in terms of infrastructure and ethnicity.
>it's not surprising their spaceflight program has been in stagnation ever since they lost control of the immigration policies that had been protecting those areas where most of their talent came from.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:35:38 UTC No. 16361086
>>16361070
oh nee, ik nam gewoon aan dat iemand die onmiddelijk over een ander land begint terwijl de focus op orkland was een of ander bruin ding is.
ik bedoel duh, muttland heeft enorme gedeeltes waar het "drink" water duidelijk niet zo drinkbaar is (net als spanje lol).
maar kom op, nog steeds stukken beter dan een of ander hol in de woestijn.
>jij denkt zeker ook dat mannen vrouwen kunnen zijn.
waarom verdun je de kracht van deze accusatie elke keer door hem te gebruiken op iedereen die het niet met je eens is, ik ben zeker dat bijna 99% van de mensen die jij een tranny noemt net zo'n hekel aan trannies hebben als jijzelf, wees niet zo'n mongool.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:35:53 UTC No. 16361087
>>16361075
sls isnt going away, stop trying
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:36:49 UTC No. 16361089
>>16360899
happy to help
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:36:53 UTC No. 16361090
>>16361086
Shut up nigger
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:37:39 UTC No. 16361092
>>16360936
didn't he play the kid on Star Trek the next generation?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:37:51 UTC No. 16361093
>>16361087
>sls isnt going
exactly
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:37:58 UTC No. 16361094
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:38:10 UTC No. 16361095
>>16361072
>finally do this mission
>discover lots of cold water and little else
>no traces of life
>not even the building blocks
>a few novel geochemical observations mainly of interest to models of solar system formation
>no practical ramifications of any kind can be gleaned from the data
Calling it now. I'm not opposed to the mission I just don't expect to find anything interesting.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:38:43 UTC No. 16361097
>>16361094
Look at it. Mylar foil crumpled, bits sticking out of it. Disgusting.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:38:59 UTC No. 16361098
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:39:03 UTC No. 16361099
>>16361083
>tries to make 1:1 comparison
>fails
most of the eastern seaboard and pretty much everywhere outside the midwest in the US is decidedly 1st world.
but even suburbs like 10 km outside of central moscow struggle with the basics like actual toilets lol.
sorry if this is upsetting to you but the white trad based saviour of mankind russia is actually already at the end stage of what the US is currently headed towards, it's got way more brown people than the US too.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:39:03 UTC No. 16361100
Cancel artemis. we need to fix earth before we can think about moon
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:39:23 UTC No. 16361102
>>16361095
>plentiful water but no hints of life
That's the best case scenario. Any hint of life gets any development plans shut down because "muh precious unique alien environment".
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:39:59 UTC No. 16361104
>>16361078
I will gladly take a future where major contracts are spread at least 51% SX / 49% BO if it means death to SLS and reasonable launch costs and $/kg.
Congress can do their pork spreading through BO/National Team/ULA, with oldspace tag teaming where applicable.
They can go to SpaceX for major projects like Mars landings and Mars infrastructure and space suits and other major projects.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:40:00 UTC No. 16361105
>>16361094
https://fireflyspace.com/elytra/
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:40:03 UTC No. 16361106
>>16361090
make me.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:41:00 UTC No. 16361107
>>16361098
the smart play
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:41:34 UTC No. 16361108
>>16361104
yeah they could start spending the pork to build payloads, hopefully cheap ones
but I'm not sure the contractors can do that
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:42:47 UTC No. 16361111
>>16361105
Wait isn’t this just momentum/momentus or whatever?
The company /sfg/ bootlicked over and then it turned out they were lying and scamming investors and it got shut down and everyone here cried because they didn’t see the very obvious writing on the wall?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:43:05 UTC No. 16361112
>>16361100
cancel the earth. when was the last time earthers did anything for the theians? we need to fix their problems first
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:43:47 UTC No. 16361114
>>16360973
Probably not. Him trying to back out of the deal means little. If he actually changed his mind then he'd have kept the business advertiser friendly, made it more profitable, and then sold it. The legal battle was also extremely weak by mega-billionaire v. mega-corp standards; he could have pushed the issue much further.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:44:33 UTC No. 16361117
Crazy that SpaceX have only acquired one (1) company in their entire existence and it is basically their infinite money maker. What a move.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:44:53 UTC No. 16361118
>>16361113
>>16361111
I don't know, there are too many of these spacetugs to keep track off
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:45:27 UTC No. 16361119
>>16361102
eeh, we could spare Europa for the bugs. Callisto and Ganymede are the prizes.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:45:50 UTC No. 16361121
>>16361086
Ik heb de originele posts niet eens gelezen, ik reageerde puur op het gepaalde plaatje
Het gemiddelde woestijn hol heeft net zo'n drinkbaar water als de verenigde staten van israel, engiste verschil is een beetje diarree ipv geplande IQ verlaging van goykudde
Hoeze krachtverdunning? Begin je op optimus prime te vallen ofzo?
>>16361090
nek jezelf kkrvarken
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:46:17 UTC No. 16361123
>>16361113
>the DoD doesn't keep him in the loop
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:47:10 UTC No. 16361124
>>16361117
didn't they also acquire their parachute contractors?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:47:32 UTC No. 16361125
>>16361122
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your
>But the senior enlisted leaders among the littoral combat ship Manchester’s gold crew knew no such privation last year, when they installed and secretly used their very own Wi-Fi network during a deployment, according to a scathing internal investigation obtained by Navy Times.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:47:43 UTC No. 16361126
>>16361122
>Littoral Combat Ship
You definitely don't want to have spotty connection on those.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:48:03 UTC No. 16361127
CLOGNIGGERS MUST LEAVE
POST IN ENGLISH OR DON'T POST AT ALL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:48:36 UTC No. 16361128
>>16361125
> the chiefs installed a Starlink satellite internet dish on the top of the ship and used a Wi-Fi network they dubbed “STINKY” to check sports scores, text home and stream movies.
STINKY
lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:49:00 UTC No. 16361129
>>16361081
>make claim
>prove me wrong
not how this works newfag
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:49:38 UTC No. 16361130
>>16361033
>>16361039
>>16361046
>>16361047
>>16361051
CC: Investors
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:49:42 UTC No. 16361131
>>16361117
How do parachutes make infinite money
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:49:49 UTC No. 16361132
>>16361125
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:50:02 UTC No. 16361133
>>16361117
SpaceX resembles the original corporations that were created with a specific purpose according to their charter, often for infrastructure projects.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:50:09 UTC No. 16361134
>>16361121
>begint plotseling te zeiken over joden
lol schizo, jodenkliekjes zijn niet half zo geintergreerd en samenwerkend als jij ze dergt uit te rijken. het zijn allemaal ondergroepjes die constant met elkaar vechten, veel meer dan dat kunnen ze niet.
terug naar /pol/ nu, ik denk dat je hier misschien niet thuis hoort.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:51:06 UTC No. 16361135
>>16361128
GOTTA be able to text the hoes gn
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:51:47 UTC No. 16361136
>>16361043
>two.
generator spins a turbine
turbine spins a generator
current spins an electric motor
motor drives a fuel pump
four
and two of those are a generator spinning another generator via a turbine for some reason
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:51:52 UTC No. 16361137
>>16360924
Incorrect understanding of rockets.
The pressure alone is not enough to produce thrust. There must be mass flow, to convert that pressure into momentum. The amount of momentum depends on the rate of mass flow and the square of the velocity. Liquids make for a terrible reaction mass, because they do not expand, and thus only "feel" the high pressure for a moment, reaching a pathetic velocity of just a few meters per second. By burning the two liquids together, enough heat is released to convert the entire liquid volume into gas at the same pressure, and gasses can expand. The gasses are accelerated in the nozzle throat up to the speed of sound by this pressure; JUST to the speed of sound. Downstream, the nozzle expands, and at this point the gasses are accelerated further by expanding against the nozzle walls. It's this acceleration ramp of a nozzle that takes the gasses from sonic to hypersonic velocity, several kilometers per second.
The VAST majority of the thrust of a rocket comes from the thermal expansion of the gasses against the nozzle wall, and NOT from the pressure inside of the combustion chamber.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:51:56 UTC No. 16361138
>>16361134
Is this some kind of code? Almost looks like English
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:52:09 UTC No. 16361139
>>16361132
UH OH STINKY
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:53:04 UTC No. 16361141
>>16361138
It's clog speak. It's like German and Danish got drunk together and had a FAS kid neither of them wanted to acknowledge.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:53:09 UTC No. 16361142
>>16361138
schijtlijner dood, wat nou?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:53:11 UTC No. 16361143
>>16361132
Stinkyyyyyy
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:53:32 UTC No. 16361144
>>16361125
>>16361128
>>16361132
i thought it was a minor experiment to test out starlink's use for the military, but this is some personal ghetto shit
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:54:02 UTC No. 16361146
>>16361140
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>Once the spacecraft landed, engineers found more than 100 locations where the stresses of reentry damaged the heat shield.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:54:16 UTC No. 16361147
>>16361140
Ballast Bill has a chance to do something absolutely hilarious here, again, before he leaves
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:55:19 UTC No. 16361149
>>16361144
that was a different vessel and authorized
https://www.twz.com/sea/starlink-no
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:55:20 UTC No. 16361150
>>16361146
Oeps, we hebben een serieus probleem!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:55:28 UTC No. 16361151
>>16361079
You're correct in understanding the possibilities, but I'm not sure where this braindead idea is coming from that research into argon thrusters now is somehow going to handicap electrothermal water thrusters in the future.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:55:32 UTC No. 16361152
>>16361134
Quit posting gibberish
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:56:21 UTC No. 16361154
>>16361146
its fucked bigtime
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:56:22 UTC No. 16361155
>>16361134
Ah dus jij bent degene die elon vandaag het telefoontje gegeven dat hij op moet houden gevaarlijke dingen te zeggen
Jaja totaal niet samenwerkend, dat is waarom je er geen enkel kritiek op geen enkel platform in de gehele westerse wereld op mag hebben
Jammer dat jou opa's gaskamer een houten deur had...
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:56:55 UTC No. 16361156
>SQUATS
>IN
>SPACE
frfr though how are you going to generate artificial gravity
spin probably isn't going to cut it
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:57:13 UTC No. 16361157
>>16361152
ik plak een rotte vis achter je wieldoppen kankerneger.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:57:22 UTC No. 16361158
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:57:27 UTC No. 16361159
>>16361132
>>16361149
I’m no expert but lying to superiors in the military has got to be one of the dumbest things you could ever do.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:57:56 UTC No. 16361160
>>16361154
oh shit
that's bad
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:58:30 UTC No. 16361161
>>16361028
Go back
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:58:44 UTC No. 16361162
>>16361155
>j-je bent het niet eens met mijn schizo theorie over langneuzen
>D-DAN MOET JE ER EEN ZIJN
zelfde met die tranny shit, kunnen /pol/flikkers niet langer dan twee minuten zonder een parodie van zichzelf te spelen?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 22:59:33 UTC No. 16361164
>>16361158
>it’s bound to delay us four more fucking years and the can will be kicked all the way down to a 2029 flight, but we are on a good path right now!—Jim Free
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:00:08 UTC No. 16361165
>>16360973
no he had that x.com domain burning in his pocket. something would need to be sacrificed so it could be shown in full glory
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:01:03 UTC No. 16361167
>>16361158
>At the same time, redesigning and rebuilding the heat shield would add years to the Artemis timeline, as would flying Artemis II without a crew. Both of these decisions would be difficult politically and financially for the space agency at a time when Congress has been inclined to cut money from NASA's budget rather than add it.
>Whatever NASA decides, don't expect an official decision soon. No one wants to touch this political quagmire before the US presidential election, and it may slip into next year.
so
1) ignore the problem/try to mitigate it with a different re-entry profile
2) re-desig the heatshield
3) launch Artemis 2 uncrewed
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:01:52 UTC No. 16361169
>>16361167
All three options are so shitty
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:03:04 UTC No. 16361173
>>16361167
option 4
delay for so long that just launching the whole mission on a regular crewed starship becomes cheaper and faster.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:03:23 UTC No. 16361176
>>16361162
Oh yeah keep speaking that dutch oh yeah Im gonna coom OHHHHHH COLONIZE THE NETHERLANDS NOOOOWWWWW
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:03:52 UTC No. 16361177
GEKOLONISEERD
Mars' second most spoken language will be Dutch, of course.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:04:08 UTC No. 16361178
>>16360944
just because nonchemical reactions occur involving atoms does not make those reactions chemical reactions. A chemical reaction is one that involves changing and correlating energy states in the electron orbitals of adjacent atoms.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:05:14 UTC No. 16361179
>>16361162
>deflectie
In het jaar van onze Heer 2024 en je bent nog steeds joodse schoenen aan het boenen met je tong, triest bestaan
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:06:25 UTC No. 16361180
>>16361132
competency crisis
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:06:49 UTC No. 16361181
>>16361176
we're more likely to colonize you instead, hope you enjoy becoming a landlocked country, fag.
>>16361177
overduidelijk
>>16361179
>NEE JE MOET HET TOT OP DE LETTER MET MIJ EENS ZIJN ANDERS BEN JE EEN SCHOENENBOENER
triest gedrag.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:07:19 UTC No. 16361183
>>16361132
>brain dead latinas as NCOs
Any chink-usa conflict might pan out like the russo-jap war; total fiasco and domestically destabilising
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:07:36 UTC No. 16361184
>>16361146
>resolved the question of the Starliner spacecraft
it's uh still up there? I don't personally think it's going to make it back
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:09:15 UTC No. 16361188
>>16361187
https://archive.is/rLD9W
>In an email late last week, SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell advised employees not to travel to Brazil for work or pleasure, according to people familiar with the email. The space company also last week took steps to relocate from the country its small group of non-Brazilian employees there, one of the people said.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:09:55 UTC No. 16361190
>>16361112
sarcasm?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:10:14 UTC No. 16361191
>>16361188
all this over a fucking twitter spat
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:10:18 UTC No. 16361192
>>16361183
for china, yes.
you forget chinks are also mutts.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:10:28 UTC No. 16361193
>>16361161
I can't see well enough to leave :(
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:10:34 UTC No. 16361194
>>16361181
Dat komt omdat er geen tussenin is, je kunt niet beschaafd zijn en een satanistische religie die iedereen buiten hun groepje als minderwaardige slaven ziet die alleen maar bestaan om gebruikt te worden respecteren
Je lijkt bijna joods
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:10:43 UTC No. 16361195
>>16361191
its a bit more than that
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:14:06 UTC No. 16361196
>>16361177
Zo hoort het, ik kan niet wachten op kaas op Mars
Wanneer Mars een ocean krijgt gaan we natuurlijk polderen
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:14:41 UTC No. 16361198
>>16361194
>implicerent dat ik joden respecteer
daar gaan we weer, je bent zo'n gigantische downie het doet bijna pijn.
het enige waar ik het niet mee eens ben is dat het die kwallen lukt om meer dan middelgrote samenwerking te volbrengen met hun gigantische ego's.
zoals ik al eerder had gezecht, jij moet echt terug naar je gateway-bord man, je bent niets anders dan een irritatiefactor for andere borden.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:15:23 UTC No. 16361199
>>16361192
A brief non-nuclear conflict that collapses both nations current political dispensations might be for the best
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:16:05 UTC No. 16361200
>>16361187
weird WSJ didn't put that the brazilian supreme court has frozen all spacex/starlink accounts in the subhead
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:16:56 UTC No. 16361201
>>16361199
it'd be really funny if they both fire missiles at eachother and just sink all of eachother's ships and destroy all of eachother's docks, meaning neither get to play anymore.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:17:06 UTC No. 16361202
>>16361191
it was the glenn greenwald article about the specific judge actually
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:18:40 UTC No. 16361203
>>16361132
that pre-Columbian stare
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:19:44 UTC No. 16361206
>>16361146
>billions
>watching the flyby
l, and may I fucking add, mao
if the craft disintegrates midway through sure, maybe, but not if things go to plan
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:19:59 UTC No. 16361207
>>16361188
based mommy shotwell
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:23:14 UTC No. 16361208
>>16361198
>mening slaat opeens om
Een paar paaltjes terug hadden joden geen samenwerking en nu wel, het is zo triest dat je nu al last van dementie begint te krijgen
>/pol/ /pol/ /pol/!
Lijkt wel rentevrij in je hoofd te wonen, heb namenlijk helemaal niks te maken met jouw obsessie bord
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:23:39 UTC No. 16361210
>>16361207
Go back to discord you dumb coombrained fuckhead
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:25:46 UTC No. 16361213
>>16361210
nta that is her nickname you need to lurk more
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:28:23 UTC No. 16361221
>>16361210
>>16361213
based
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:29:16 UTC No. 16361222
>>16361221
>based
on what?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:30:07 UTC No. 16361223
>>16361222
uhm....
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:31:28 UTC No. 16361227
>“SpaceX is an issue that’s constantly changing, that is getting rubber-stamped permits by regulatory agencies that have really broken processes,” said Bekah Hinojosa, co-founder of the South Texas Environmental Justice Network.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:31:51 UTC No. 16361229
>>16361208
>mening slaat opeens om
nee lol, jouw leesvermogen is gewoon onderontwikkeld.
het voelt alsof ik met een speedsnuivende peuter praat die heel graag een gesprek wil speedrunnen.
mijn mening is niet zo makkelijk te categorizeren kankernegertje.
>paar paaltjes terug hadden joden geen samenwerking
nee ik maakte heel erg duidelijk dat ze allemaal in hun eigen kliekjes zaten, maar je bent al lang niet meer toespreekbaar en je hoort wat je wil horen.
jochie, ik snap dat je al het geroezemoes van de joden enzo net het ontdekt op je 16de verjaardag, maar het wordt nu tijd om naar bed te gaan.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:34:44 UTC No. 16361233
>>16361232
all this civilization and it can only support a tiny spaceflight industry
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:35:21 UTC No. 16361234
>>16361230
would it kill them the send better cameras and make higher framerate timelapses? nasa should be fired
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:35:34 UTC No. 16361235
>>16361230
>going directly over pisreal
missed opportunity to drop a kinetic rod.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:36:21 UTC No. 16361237
>>16361015
It can accept electrons so it can take part in chemistry
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:36:32 UTC No. 16361238
>>16361227
>Bekah Hinojosa
>Hinojosa holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Geography from the University of North Texas and is actively involved in grassroots organizing to combat the expansion of fossil fuel infrastructure in her region. She emphasizes the importance of community engagement and artistic expression in her activism, aiming to inspire people of all ages to participate in environmental protection efforts.
>In addition to her advocacy work, Hinojosa is also a visual artist, skilled in various mediums including painting and crafting. Recently, she has been in the news due to legal issues; her charge related to alleged graffiti at a SpaceX site was reduced from a Class B misdemeanor to a Class C misdemeanor, reflecting community support and pressure on local authorities.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:36:33 UTC No. 16361239
>>16361227
>South Texas Environmental Justice Network
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:39:22 UTC No. 16361242
>>16361238
>artistic expression
so a failed loser with no career who decided that making itself feel good about itself by pretending to care about societal issues would fix all it's problems.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:40:04 UTC No. 16361243
>>16361238
>Geography
Bwahahahahaha
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:41:21 UTC No. 16361248
>>16361229
shut the fuck up toothpastenigger
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:41:54 UTC No. 16361249
>>16361237
Not at the temperatures and pressures of a stellar core
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:42:32 UTC No. 16361250
>>16361238
Let’s examine the carbon footprint of this pig!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:43:30 UTC No. 16361251
>>16361248
wat ga je anders doen, huilen?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:44:03 UTC No. 16361253
we hebben een serieus probleem
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:44:31 UTC No. 16361254
>>16361252
het is de perfecte planeet
100% gepolderd
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:45:48 UTC No. 16361256
>>16361246
If new glenn crashed into it, would it sink?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:46:20 UTC No. 16361258
>>16361252
Flag of Crest
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:48:23 UTC No. 16361264
>>16361261
shame your country can't into spaceflight, huh
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:50:01 UTC No. 16361268
>>16361256
it would be extremely painful
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:50:19 UTC No. 16361269
>>16361249
Skill issue
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:50:28 UTC No. 16361270
>>16361268
yor a big roket
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:50:30 UTC No. 16361271
>>16361099
>it's got way more brown people than the US too.
it doesn't have a ZOG in control yet so they got that going at least
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:50:35 UTC No. 16361272
>>16361264
meh, we have the easy excuse that we're on the western end of europe and getting a sizeable rocket to our colonies in the gulf would be logistically challenging and economically questionable.
england and spain need to get off their asses already and start building decent launchpads.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:51:30 UTC No. 16361273
>>16361246
>I'll try spinning! That's a good trick
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:51:35 UTC No. 16361275
>>16361271
it's just a different ZOG. arguably a more blatant one.
reminder that putin will send you to gay rape prison if you insult the jewish people.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:52:26 UTC No. 16361277
Holland is a waste of perfectly good sea bed
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:52:35 UTC No. 16361278
>>16360737
can someone fix this so that everything is correctly labeled useless garbage?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:52:52 UTC No. 16361279
>>16361277
and you'll never get rid of us.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:52:56 UTC No. 16361281
>>16361270
UUUU
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:53:36 UTC No. 16361284
>>16360738
oops, I deleted your part
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:54:38 UTC No. 16361285
>>16360823
how did Ethan Ralph get to Mars?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:54:56 UTC No. 16361287
throw rocks at holland (from space)
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:56:27 UTC No. 16361290
>>16361243
nah it makes sense. geofags often get into the oil & natgas industry.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:56:29 UTC No. 16361291
>>16361287
Propulsive landings on The Hague
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:57:05 UTC No. 16361292
>>16361279
We shall test this by bombarding your dikes with space rocks. 1953 will look like a puddle.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:58:26 UTC No. 16361294
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:59:27 UTC No. 16361296
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:59:35 UTC No. 16361297
>>16361127
WE GAAN
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:00:08 UTC No. 16361298
>>16361229
>jodenkliekjes werken niet samen genoeg om de westerse wereld te ondermijnen
>oh nee toch wel
Het is niet mijn leesvermogen wat onderontwikkeld is maar jouw schrijfvermogen, kan niet eens hoofdletters gebruiken
>mijn mening is niet zo makkelijk te categorizeren
Ratstadders met hun kapsones zeg
>ze zitten allemaal in hun eigen kliekjes
Hmm toch gek dat die kliekjes het veelaal eens zijn dat goyim gewoon verkracht en vermoord mogen woorden (zie vrijlating verkrachters IDF na landelijke protesten), ik dacht dat ze allemaal apart stonden?
Over bedtijd gesproken, success met je werkdag op 4-5 uur slaap :^)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:00:51 UTC No. 16361300
>>16361159
don't worry, if they give her more that a verbal "slap on the wrist" they will be guilty of racism AND sexism so she's got nothing to worry about
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:01:12 UTC No. 16361301
>Musk is South African
>South Africa was once a Dutch colony
>some of Musk's ancestors were Dutch
>He's got Dutch blood running through his veins
>Therefore, Musk is Dutch in spirit
>Furthermore, Musk = Spaceflight, then spaceflight = Nederlands.
QED
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:01:19 UTC No. 16361302
>>16361293
>>16361294
>>16361296
A fitting end to the Nederniggers. Make it so!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:01:24 UTC No. 16361304
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:02:57 UTC No. 16361305
>>16361290
Even then, every university with a geology department has esoteric jokes about geographers being faggots. Because they’re too lazy to do any science and they just want a degree based on vibes and a participation trophy. It’s a common-held stance that unites both the conservative beer geologists funded by O&G and the liberal weed geologists funded by government
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:04:37 UTC No. 16361307
>>16361154
> "While there was no evidence of impact with the crew module, the quantity and size of the debris could have caused enough structural damage to cause one of Orion's parachutes to fail," the report reads. "Should the same issue occur on future Artemis missions, it could lead to the loss of the vehicle or crew."
Just needs a few tweaks - and a few more billions of dollars.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:04:49 UTC No. 16361309
>>16361304
noo, not California, please don't
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:04:55 UTC No. 16361310
>>16361304
That would improve America greatly while one on Holland would erase it entirely (a blessing for the world tbph)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:05:13 UTC No. 16361311
>>16361252
timeline where Mars One and ARCAspace partnered
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:06:29 UTC No. 16361314
>>16361293
a little lower and to the right, thank you.
that former island is a cesspool of incest and i don't mind if you glass it.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:06:30 UTC No. 16361315
>>16361117
what the fuck are you talking about
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:07:30 UTC No. 16361317
>>16361298
>NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE JE HEBT NIET MIJN MENING
jochie, je staat te koken, het zweet druipt van je gezicht af.
ga gewoon naar bed.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:07:32 UTC No. 16361318
>>16361315
>>16361131
hownew
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:07:46 UTC No. 16361319
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:09:51 UTC No. 16361320
>>16361037
Yes but the purpose of this spacecraft is to microwave niggers in the VA belts, read the thread.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:10:09 UTC No. 16361324
>>16361319
t. seething Batavian degenerate
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:12:00 UTC No. 16361325
>>16361125
>>16361122
>LCS
Every single aspect of these ships is cursed. Even the officers on them are rotten.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:12:30 UTC No. 16361326
>>16361275
>If we pretend that "bad goy #1" Putin is under our control then the bad goys on 4chan will hate him too!
not working yet, David
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:12:41 UTC No. 16361327
>>16361081
Actually I pointed out why you were wrong earlier.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:14:24 UTC No. 16361329
>>16361317
>geeft op
Lmke
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:15:58 UTC No. 16361331
>>16361151
That isn't what I said. I said we should avoid chasing a dead end technology.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:16:16 UTC No. 16361333
>>16361324
That's it, no more starship
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:16:55 UTC No. 16361335
>>16361136
gas generator isn't a moving part
gas turbine and rotor of the electric generator are one moving part.
electric motor's rotor and the fuel pump are one moving part.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:17:35 UTC No. 16361337
>>16361311
Halley's Comet impacting on the Moon surely did have some pretty meaningful consequences on Romania's and the Netherlands' economy.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:19:06 UTC No. 16361339
>>16361336
sex
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:27:12 UTC No. 16361349
>>16361336
>Payload Capacity to TLI:
>N1 - 23.5 T
>Energia - 32.0 T
N1 was so shit it’s unreal
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:31:28 UTC No. 16361353
>>16361146
this is actually big news, rip oldspace
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:36:13 UTC No. 16361354
>>16361326
Haha /pol/niggers are such easily used useful idiots.
he’s a jew on his mother’s side and he gulaged most of the extreme far right groups.
good goyim.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:36:16 UTC No. 16361355
Speak American or shut the fuck up. No wonder /sfg/ has dropped in quality, it's infested by third worlders who have no viable space programs.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:37:35 UTC No. 16361356
>>16361355
>netherlands
>third world
Lel, lmao even
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:38:13 UTC No. 16361357
>>16361356
post domestic space program
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:38:48 UTC No. 16361358
>>16361357
Elon musk is south african
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:39:51 UTC No. 16361359
>>16361336
absolute unit
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:41:41 UTC No. 16361360
>>16361358
uh-huh. why don't you post one of his rockets with a south african flag on it.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:44:13 UTC No. 16361362
>>16361360
It’s fine, you can thank the netherlands for gifting you these genius genes when you come here to gawk and admire our infrastructure.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:44:59 UTC No. 16361363
>>16361362
Does that infrastructure include a launchpad or VAB of any kind?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:46:36 UTC No. 16361365
>>16361362
Anne frank’s house, the heineken factory, and the cute little city that’s only bicycles on the inside? lol nice culture bro, get a launch pad
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:51:12 UTC No. 16361370
>>16361362
Shame you decided to fill up all that cool stuff with packs of niggers and arabs
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:54:20 UTC No. 16361376
>>16361370
Sorry we got the holocaust in schools too so that means infinite third world immigration forever
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:55:03 UTC No. 16361377
>>16361362
Elon isn't Dutch, thank God
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:57:36 UTC No. 16361381
>>16361377
Boer roots
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:03:37 UTC No. 16361387
>>16361385
how to become certified window handler?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:05:15 UTC No. 16361388
>>16361385
>hasn't even flown once
>already fucked up
Shameful
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:06:18 UTC No. 16361389
>>16361388
The scratches reduce mass please understand
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:17:03 UTC No. 16361392
LIVE
Get in here. Vega failure imminent!
https://www.youtube.com/live/BZzcOx
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:18:50 UTC No. 16361394
>>16361387
tailor-made job for shuttle boomers who still need a congressional-approved six figure salary
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:24:38 UTC No. 16361397
shame brazil will never be able to launch another satellite with the #1 launch provider
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:31:06 UTC No. 16361410
>>16360989
Turn on the hurricane machine already.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:32:30 UTC No. 16361412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZz
Vega's up
Who's ready for some excitement?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:33:30 UTC No. 16361414
>>16361392
>>16361392
>>16361392
>>16361392
>>16361392
>>16361392
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:41:10 UTC No. 16361423
>>16361412
i dont like vegans
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:41:21 UTC No. 16361424
I needed to be asleep 20 minutes ago, please fail early in the flight.
They somehow accidentally sent the tanks for this flight to a landfill btw
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:43:27 UTC No. 16361429
Seeing the EUmonkeys brag about their rocket getting 22 launches before retirement is kinda sad in world with Falcon 9.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:43:48 UTC No. 16361430
>more than 18 tons lifted
lmfao a single F9 does 17.5 T reusable. Nice space program europe, this is your only operational rocket??
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:44:49 UTC No. 16361432
kinda boring so far, anyone else watching at x2 speed?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:45:36 UTC No. 16361433
>>16361429
>22 launches
>a single Falcon 9 lasted 23 launches
Fuckin' hell
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:47:37 UTC No. 16361434
>>16361397
wonder how their space program's going. last I heard they were still partnering with ze germans on some smallsat launchers.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:50:11 UTC No. 16361436
>>16361434
It's about to go a lot worse if SpaceX starts refusing business from anyone who works with their government.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:50:17 UTC No. 16361437
Deze draad hebben een serieus probleem.
Anyway, the Dutch are at least the most experienced at terraforming so far.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:50:18 UTC No. 16361438
>>16361397
with any luck they'll start beefing with beck, bezos, and bruno too soon.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:51:35 UTC No. 16361440
>>16361150
Wat nou?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:52:14 UTC No. 16361442
uh oh
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:52:35 UTC No. 16361444
>>16361433
And launched 13 times the payload in those launches.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:52:48 UTC No. 16361445
vega kinda boring
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:53:26 UTC No. 16361446
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:54:32 UTC No. 16361448
>>16361445
open vega mam
bitch lasagna
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:55:29 UTC No. 16361449
>>16361327
I'm actually the guy that got mad at you for doing that, pretending to be that guy.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:56:11 UTC No. 16361450
>>16361327
>>16361449
I'm actually both of these anons
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:58:18 UTC No. 16361453
>>16361452
unthrottleable solids make for some weird flight plans.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:58:37 UTC No. 16361454
>>16361452
me when I minmax my kerbal flight and need to do autistic burns
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:58:43 UTC No. 16361455
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:59:29 UTC No. 16361456
>>16361081
>>16361449
>>16361450
prove it
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:00:41 UTC No. 16361458
>>16361452
>>16361455
Looks suspect as all hell, but it's an excess velocity bleedoff maneuver if there's over-performance by the vehicle during ascent, and is nominal.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:01:10 UTC No. 16361459
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:01:21 UTC No. 16361460
>>16361458
>solid upper stages
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:01:38 UTC No. 16361461
>>16361458
The important thing is that the yellow line is matching up with the green line
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:02:34 UTC No. 16361462
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:03:09 UTC No. 16361463
>>16361460
Antares had to pull intentionally suboptimal trajectories on most of its flights too
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:03:49 UTC No. 16361464
>>16361337
what if instead of impacting Jupiter back in 1994 Shoemaker-Levy 9 had instead delivered all those megatons to Mars, what would it look like now?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:04:59 UTC No. 16361465
>>16361464
it would’ve been extremely painful
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:05:01 UTC No. 16361466
>>16361354
>good goyim
that's what you call everybody I bet
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:09:03 UTC No. 16361468
>>16361464
>Mars warms up and gets water just as we gain the ability to visit
We'd certainly have been there by now in that case
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:09:39 UTC No. 16361469
>>16361394
>tailor-made job for shuttle boomers
too bad the old white-haired boomer already trained his black lesbian replacement
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:09:56 UTC No. 16361470
>let's talk now about space team europe
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:11:45 UTC No. 16361471
>>16361470
The women's sports league of team space.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:12:46 UTC No. 16361472
>>16361381
Nope, both sides are from British or Canadian settlers to South Africa
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:13:28 UTC No. 16361473
>>16361230
>>16361232
the amazing thing: the asteroid fireball is nearly lost in the background of lightning strikes and city lighting
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:14:11 UTC No. 16361474
>>16361467
Joo detected
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:16:21 UTC No. 16361475
>>16361264
don't need it, already built a giant flying saucer (Evoluon)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:20:10 UTC No. 16361478
>>16361392
waiting for those replacement tanks to pop
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:22:30 UTC No. 16361481
>>16361437
Dutch windmills on Mars when?
(honestly I don't mind this thread. Dutch is a wonderful language for shitposting)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:23:17 UTC No. 16361483
nothing new in the article aside from the expected timeline (2030s) that starshield will be able to continuously track every moving vehicle on earth 24/7/365
https://www.twz.com/space/tracking-
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:24:10 UTC No. 16361486
>>16361452
you get that on many Antares launches as well, due to the "wisdom" of using a solid fuel upper stage (lol)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:26:47 UTC No. 16361487
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:26:54 UTC No. 16361488
>>16361483
And /pol/ is still hung up on building compounds in the woods to await the collapse.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:41:11 UTC No. 16361499
>>16361498
ugly pig
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:53:19 UTC No. 16361507
>no kino explosion
congrats dutch people, you win this time
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:54:29 UTC No. 16361509
the dutchcels are asleep, move in with the toothpaste for their disgusting teeth!!!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 02:56:42 UTC No. 16361510
>>16361509
We call them toothpastes because of their flag, anon.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:02:51 UTC No. 16361511
>>16361510
yes i know its a double whammy because theyre also european who famously have horrible dental hygiene. you can say the same to luxembourgfags but they dont exist
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:09:30 UTC No. 16361513
>>16361483
So this anon >>16193274 and the ones in agreement with him are vindicated.
Man I wish I could remember important shit instead of months-old /sfg/ conversations that didn't even involve me.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:14:55 UTC No. 16361516
>>16361513
you still need fire control radar to actually achieve a lock on
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:16:00 UTC No. 16361517
>>16361516
you just need to do a bunch of trigonometry really fast to shoot it down with sat data
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:17:29 UTC No. 16361518
>>16361513
im looking back in this thread and i can recognize which posts are mine
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:23:51 UTC No. 16361521
>>16361518
lol same. I need a better hobby than shitposting here
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:25:11 UTC No. 16361523
>>16361521
your hobby is actually posting here and not general spaceflight tracking? mine is mostly starship and this is the only place i discuss it but still not literally posting here.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:28:32 UTC No. 16361527
>>16361525
more
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:29:16 UTC No. 16361528
>>16361523
[math]\unicode{x1F937}[/math] I wouldn't enjoy following spaceflight nearly as much if I didn't have a place to shitpost about it.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:32:04 UTC No. 16361529
>>14738059
what are /sfg/'s thoughts on this 2 years later?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:13:22 UTC No. 16361548
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:18:54 UTC No. 16361551
>>16361358
British* South African
Nothing to do with the Afrikaners
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:24:24 UTC No. 16361552
>>16361551
>British
Dutch, you mong
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:30:35 UTC No. 16361553
https://x.com/BepiColombo/status/18
>The first images from BepiColombo's fourth Mercury flyby have arrived on Earth and our selfie-cam team is taking a first look. Stay tuned!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:36:04 UTC No. 16361554
>>16361553
Does it have a color camera or nah
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:40:23 UTC No. 16361556
>>16361553
Bepis Columbia
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:57:06 UTC No. 16361561
>>16361553
there's telescopes on Mercury?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:58:02 UTC No. 16361562
>>16361552
Elon Musk has no Dutch ancestors whatsoever.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:26:24 UTC No. 16361575
>>16361562
Explain his skin tone and ugly mug
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:34:16 UTC No. 16361581
>>16361575
chronic prenatal nigger fatigue
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:38:03 UTC No. 16361583
>>16361516
Well sure but this isn't about targeting individual vehicles, it's about simultaneous knowledge of the movements of all air, sea, and ground vehicles on Earth that are reasonably visible to space, probably fed into a supercomputer trained to automatically categorize or flag certain kinds of coordinated movement by certain kinds of vehicles.
On the schizo side of things it's also a perfect system for investigating UAPs, assuming that the DoD genuinely doesn't know what they are.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:39:19 UTC No. 16361585
>>16360701
i just woke up! i am so excited to watch the polaris dawn mission today!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:45:21 UTC No. 16361589
>>16361585
woke up at this time? what are you, dutch?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:47:11 UTC No. 16361592
>>16361585
got some bad news for ya
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:54:44 UTC No. 16361598
>>16361575
>skin tone and ugly mug
British
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:57:41 UTC No. 16361603
>>16361583
>>16193274 said it would completely invalidate stealth aircraft
I'm just pointing out that even if you have visuals, you still need a way to guide the munition to the target, which will involve radar and therefore stealth aircraft will still retain some degree of advantage over the less stealth ones.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:02:06 UTC No. 16361608
>>16361125
So what will happen when the direct to cell becomes available to every sailor?
How are they going to stop leaks then?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:04:02 UTC No. 16361610
>>16361604
Mercury you can see those big scars to the left that Luna doesnt have.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:13:43 UTC No. 16361614
>>16361589
i am from europe and i am jealous of the american space industry
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:15:28 UTC No. 16361616
If dragon was originally designed to fly 7 why couldn't they add those extra chairs back in. So they don't have to leave people to pick up butch and Soni?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:20:12 UTC No. 16361619
>>16361614
You will have a place on Mars
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:20:23 UTC No. 16361620
>>16361616
NASA
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:20:54 UTC No. 16361621
>>16361616
They've never studied bringing back any more than four, and procedure autists would not be happy until every last detail is accounted for.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:21:12 UTC No. 16361623
>>16361614
Are you white? If yes, move here. If no, stay where you are.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:29:48 UTC No. 16361627
>>16361610
Those are cutting scars - red flag
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:53:49 UTC No. 16361645
>>16361623
i am white but i am lazy and europe is a better place to be lazy than america because of unemployment benefits and a bigger focus on "work-life balance". i guess thats one of the reasons why europeans space industry is far behind.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 06:58:00 UTC No. 16361648
>>16361616
SpaceX would have to go through a gorillion bureaucratic steps and a kilometric redtape to get NASA's approval for the 7-seat configuration, all in the name of safety. Btw, this does not apply to Boing!, which is the safe option.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 07:01:57 UTC No. 16361651
>>16361648
I would rather sit on the floor of a dragon without an IVA suit than ride the Starliner down
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 07:05:01 UTC No. 16361652
>>16361553
i wish i could work at a remote radio telescope
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 07:10:51 UTC No. 16361658
>>16361652
same here, it would be so peaceful
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 07:19:08 UTC No. 16361666
>>16361603
>I'm just pointing out that even if you have visuals, you still need a way to guide the munition to the target, which will involve radar
Why? You can establish the distance, speed and angle from the target using visual measurements fairly accurately, especially if you have a few satellites triangulating. A little radar in the tip of the projectile does last mile corrections. Also stealth is terrible when viewed from direct top down since it is optimised for a front on approach. From directly above you are pretty much presented with a flat plane to bounce off, not all those cool optimised angles on the front face.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 07:47:41 UTC No. 16361675
>>16361509
i am now awake and am no longer sleempy.
hallo goedemorgen anon!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 08:19:53 UTC No. 16361690
>>16360876
>hoping [...] the SPRINGS on the docking port themselves will be enough to get shartliner to fuck off
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 08:49:59 UTC No. 16361705
>>16361703
ew, a woman
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 08:58:52 UTC No. 16361715
>>16361705
they are also saying starlink is shit in congested areas, but imply that intelsat isn't
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:06:36 UTC No. 16361729
>>16361724
https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:10:22 UTC No. 16361740
Reminder that BepiColombo was supposed to include a lander but got scrapped due to budget restraints. We could've seen Mercury from the surface for the first time, but no, we need muh scientific data. When will scientists learn that the most important aspect of science is the human experience, not the autistic data? When was the last lander on a previously unknown world? Huygens over 20 years ago?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:13:45 UTC No. 16361747
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:34:02 UTC No. 16361758
>>16361740
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/67P/C
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:37:44 UTC No. 16361762
>>16361737
What is MMOD?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:41:37 UTC No. 16361768
>>16361758
>2016
>video is 1910s silent film tier
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:41:46 UTC No. 16361769
>>16361762
https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-fa
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:50:48 UTC No. 16361780
>>16360738
link to the full paper?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:52:26 UTC No. 16361782
>>16361290
Geologists, yeah.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 10:29:59 UTC No. 16361845
>>16361652
>>16361658
comfy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 10:40:20 UTC No. 16361866
>>16361845
Reminder that one of the best films about Apollo 11 is The Dish
https://youtu.be/8dyGpXcQl-g?si=Zkk
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 10:40:56 UTC No. 16361869
>>16360738
>Bro just cut holes into the side of your spaceship
>Trust me, you NEED a entirely new capsule inside your ship, header tanks who needs those lol
>Just add a giant seam to you heatshield, it'll look really cool when it opens up
Behold the power of oldspace
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 10:50:11 UTC No. 16361885
>>16361845
>3 xbox consoles
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 10:59:44 UTC No. 16361902
>>16361052
The mass saving on carbon fiber are just too good to look over.
Once again eager space makes a great point here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tB
Carbon fiber first stages are actually a really great idea but for a reentry vehicle you definitely want steel.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:02:12 UTC No. 16361906
>>16361902
so eventually it might make sense have a Superheavy made out of carbon
would have to be pretty far in the future though with massive cadence to make it worthwhile to engineer and build a new fleet
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:09:48 UTC No. 16361913
The more I read about probe missions the more I'm convinced those oldfags in the 60's were right. People should be piloting rockets, at least they should be able to take over from the computer. Every probe mission reads like somebody is descring their KSP playthrough, 'x landed and fell over a rock,' 'y shot past it's maneuver point and had to orbit again,' 'z's probe failed to open because it got clogged full of dust,' etc. Say what you will about the danger and difficulty of manned missions, but the introduction if a human into the equation seems to increase the odds of the exploration objective actually being accomplished. Apollo didn't fall over, it had a pilot looking at the ground going 'yep, I could land there.'
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:12:36 UTC No. 16361916
>>16361232
Amazing you can see the syrian turkish border here so clearly.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:16:55 UTC No. 16361921
>>16361913
This. I'm tired of the reusable astronaut meme. Even /sfg/ seems to have fallen for it since Starliner.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:24:28 UTC No. 16361935
>>16361906
Honestly maybe not. You'd need to manufacture it in totally different conditions and you'd be time limited per booster by one machine. You could buy more machines of course, but how much clean factory floor would that be? As long as they plan on making one a week it'll have to be steel.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:30:29 UTC No. 16361939
>>16361921
I know you're mocking me, but I would think that's something the Soviets could've done. Use your Gulag'd undesirables to man probes. Easy!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:32:00 UTC No. 16361940
>>16361146
What pisses me off is that this is only an issue because congress mandated that orion can only fly on SLS. If orion were allowed to fly any other rocket then we'd just do unmanned tests on that.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:32:13 UTC No. 16361941
>>16361935
In an endgame state, you would want to have a fleet of first stages just constantly launching, maybe retiring them gradually as they age, with no need for rapid mass production. Kinda like planes
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:34:02 UTC No. 16361943
>>16361146
I don't see this as a big deal. It only has to withstand re-entry once, right.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:37:19 UTC No. 16361948
>>16361943
>the main support beam of the bridge only cracked a third of the way through when we sent the first truck across, that means we have a 3 times safety factor! Why don't you wanna cross it?
Exact same logic that killed astronauts before. It's not supposed to lose chunks at all.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:37:53 UTC No. 16361949
>>16361758
>they wasted the egyptian deities on areas of this random comet
What the fuck. Why? Also, why the fuck does ESA never take photographs in colour? What is this, the 1960s?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:44:27 UTC No. 16361958
>>16361935
depends on the scale and potential the actual benefits of carbon fiber compared to steel
the thing that matters is the eventual amortized cost/kg to orbit which in the very least would require massive cadence
even if you had to build a new factory for it then as long as you have enough cadence (and the total lifetime cost + cost to orbit is lower for a carbon fiber booster) then it will make financial sense
the smaller the delta, the higher the cadence needs to be and at this point I don't think its automatically even given that there would be a cost benefit
the manufacturing cost and cost of carbon fiber would be much higher even when both processes are optimized
assuming you would have a carbon fiber booster would have 1/3 of the dry mass of a steel booster, how much higher mass to orbit would that translate to?
super heavy is going to have a final dry mass of something like 150-200t, lets assume 200t
and lets say you can do a 60t super heavy if you made it from carbon fiber to be optimistic, so you save 140t on dry mass on the booster
how much more payload does that translate to?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:53:40 UTC No. 16361971
>>16361958
>assuming you would have a carbon fiber booster would have 1/3 of the dry mass of a steel booster, how much higher mass to orbit would that translate to?
I believe the calculated carbon fiber mass advantage was closer to 1/10th, and it's about 140 tons dry right now; all-in, a carbon fiber Superheavy goes from about 200 tons to about 74 tons. This affects payload more than the usual ratio on a rocket because the booster is bound by the propellant reserves needed for boostback and landing, which go down substantially with the reduced mass.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:54:40 UTC No. 16361973
>>16361971
The steel parts are about 140 tons dry right now*
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:56:11 UTC No. 16361974
>>16361958
>>16361971
We're talking about the booster, and payload is way downstream. Swapping to carbon fiber gets you like 10 more tons. Not worth it.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:58:03 UTC No. 16361977
>>16361949
Surely we will get to the point where there will be multiple places that have the same name. Like streets and towns
>Not to be confused with: Valles Marineris (Mars)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:59:30 UTC No. 16361981
>>16361974
This is only correct when you're talking about a booster that expends all of its onboard propellant reserves before staging. When you need to reserve margin for boostback and landing, the gains start looking more like second stage figures. That said, it's still probably not worth it because steel has enormously superior lifetime wear characteristics to aluminum and carbon fiber.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:15:02 UTC No. 16361998
>>16361768
kinomatography
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:27:49 UTC No. 16362006
>>16361939
But then you'd just have a failed probe with a dead dude in it or no probes because manned stuff takes way more money, time and bigger rockets.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:35:23 UTC No. 16362012
>>16361981
well airplanes are built of aluminium, not steel
even with the lifetime wear
perhaps the wear that a booster experiences is more extreme than an airplane, but is it really significantly different?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:38:42 UTC No. 16362015
>>16362012
>perhaps the wear that a booster experiences is more extreme than an airplane, but is it really significantly different?
The regular flight loads of the ship and booster exceed four Gs. Airliners are having a bad day if they encounter two. All aluminum airframes lose ultimate yield strength over time and have fixed operational lifetimes before their components are no longer capable of bearing flight loads. Steel doesn't wear like this.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:42:13 UTC No. 16362022
>>16362016
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18316
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:50:39 UTC No. 16362030
>>16361845
/comfy/ Halo CE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:51:48 UTC No. 16362032
Oh boy. More politics hot off the xitter!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:56:29 UTC No. 16362034
>>16362032
its the same, spaceflight relevant thing that has been talked about previously as an idea but seems to be actually something that has a realistic chance of happening
this would probably affect many agencies that work with SpaceX
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:01:29 UTC No. 16362038
>>16362034
Fuck off with your subversive bullshit. This is exactly the same shit you faggots did to /k/ with the "ackshually this is weapons related."
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:03:52 UTC No. 16362040
>>16362038
I'm not saying talk about trump, I'm saying what would this mean for the agencies involved?
how is this subversive?
government waste is something that gets talked about with the context of SLS all the time, but a commission to decrease waste with great input from the CEO of the most important rocket company is somehow off topic?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:04:39 UTC No. 16362042
>>16361780
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:11:58 UTC No. 16362048
>>16361083
>1nd world country
ESLsisters, it's joever
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:13:07 UTC No. 16362050
>>16360722
>>16360735
>>16360758
>>16360768
>>16360781
>>16360787
>>16360796
>>16360755
Man mental illness is a motherfucker lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:13:16 UTC No. 16362051
Musk is the only significant figure in spaceflight therefore anything about him is germane
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:16:14 UTC No. 16362058
report clognigger posts
total clognigger death, slice clogniggers with a katana, slamdunk a clognigger baby into a trash can, etc.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:22:31 UTC No. 16362061
>>16361137
The pressure alone is enough to produce thrust. The sum of the forces produced by the pressure on the engine is the thrust.
The mass flow rate and exhaust velocity simply provide a much easier way to calculate the thrust.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:23:47 UTC No. 16362063
https://www.thespacereview.com/arti
> Earlier illustrations of the Polaris Dawn mission showed an astronaut floating free of the spacecraft, linked by a tether. Instead, each astronaut will briefly emerge from the hatch in a “stand up” EVA, keeping their hands and/or feet firmly attached to the spacecraft.
>“We’ll be fully outside Dragon,” Isaacman said, including a “hands-free” test where only their feet are attached to Dragon. “We’re just not going to be floating around.”
the article seems to be a summary of the pre-flight briefing that happened like a week ago
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:29:20 UTC No. 16362069
>be Hitler
>decide not to gas every last Dutch person to death
what a jerk!