Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 21:44:36 UTC No. 16364472

no, no, no and no
you just update the information you have on the correlation

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 21:55:59 UTC No. 16364508

>>16364455
measurement is just another interaction. there's literally no way to get around this.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:20:46 UTC No. 16364609

>>16364508
Yes, but the closer you measure to the observation event, the higher likelihood that something atypical would start to happen.
My understanding of current entanglement experiments is that the second measurement happens long after the first observation event

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:11:44 UTC No. 16364732

>>16364455
entanglement is not real

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:30:50 UTC No. 16365643

This shit is not real. Why don't jannies ban pseudo-science threads? This board is shit enough as it is.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:36:55 UTC No. 16365651

>>16364455
What the fuck are you talking about? Entanglement is not that complicated, a pair of particles/photons/whatever is released such that have the opposite states and they oscillate between these states such that their states are always the opposite of eachother, you can easily break entanglement by just interacting with one of the objects such that its state will be changed, rendering your prediction of the state of the non-measured object useless. It's nothing more but a principle of observation, there is nothing spooky going on.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:57:12 UTC No. 16365952

>>16365651
Kneejerk reaction lol

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:00:14 UTC No. 16365956

>>16365952
Kneejerk sounds like something I got from your mother last night

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:05:11 UTC No. 16366062

>>16364455
>Has anyone ever studied what happens around the exact moment an entangled pair degenerates? Like for a 500um IR wave, what happens within the first 500um after the "observation" event?
There's unitary time evolution until the next observation, just like the non-entangled case. If you observe the same observable (with photons, typically the Stokes operator over the entangled degrees of freedom, ie some polarization along a given axis) again, it obviously commutes with itself, and you get the same Dirac choice as the first observation modulo sloppy observation. If you decide to observe something else, a non-commuting observable, then you get a different value and the significance of any preceding observation is nullified in accordance with the complementary principle (strong free will theorem).

>Is there a time delay in the degeneration effect?
No. Observation is a non-unitary, indivisible, observer-dependent event. There are no timelike foliations.

>If one particle is observed 1ps (about 300um) later than the other, it there a small chance it'll cause the other to degenerate instead?
No. Entanglement does not result in any "action at a distance", in accordance with the no-communication theorem. If this were to happen, the applicable symmetries and their corresponding conservation laws (wrt entangled photons, typically conservation of intrinsic angular momentum) would be broken despite every experiment ever performed confirming they hold exactly. You would also get retrocausality, which would imply closed timelike curves, which would imply negative energy, which would imply the vacuum is decaying and an ongoing destruction of the entire universe.