Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:40:57 UTC No. 16365831

They're not.

Why don't the jannies do anything about the ESL pseudo-science threads?

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:43:51 UTC No. 16365833

>>16365831
>They're not.
Have you been there? Measured it yourself?
No?
Too bad.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:13:55 UTC No. 16365884

>>16365826
There's a great sci-fi novel called Fire Upon the Deep on that subject

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:31:11 UTC No. 16365907

The laws of physics might be fine-tuned for scientific discoverability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D--lnA9eht0
https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-fine-tuning-argument-simply-works

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:13:44 UTC No. 16366003

>>16365907
discoverability isn't a word. I hate academics.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:46:40 UTC No. 16366121

>>16365826
They don't.
Hence dark matter.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:52:01 UTC No. 16366127

>>16365907
To demonstrate tuning, you mist first assume they could be different. I don't make that assumption without evidence.
You must also assume that, even if they could be different, they weren't brought about by a natural process in the early universe. Another unwarranted assumption.
To assume fine tuning, you also assume that life is unfeasible without these specific constants, but that is not so.
Overall, the entire argument is based off fallacy, misunderstanding probability, and general unwarranted assumption.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:58:51 UTC No. 16366305

>>16366127
>let me tell you about how everywhere we have never seen is exactly like here

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:08:58 UTC No. 16366571

>>16365833
>They are.
Have you been there? Measured it yourself?
No?
Too bad.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:40:41 UTC No. 16366611

>>16366305
Why would it not be? You just assume it's fundamentally different because it's far away?

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:17:07 UTC No. 16366678

>>16366611
Bad question. The onus is on you to justify your assumption that everything is the same everywhere.
If you go just a kilometer down in the ocean, there is no sunlight. Everything you think you know about the stars is filtered by your assumption that light is not changing over six gorillion years. It is completely ungrounded in any empirical fact.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 04:27:41 UTC No. 16367423

>>16366678
>n-no u
Lol.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 12:02:13 UTC No. 16369570

>>16366678
you posed the hypothesis, now you can go prove it right.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 13:23:54 UTC No. 16369701

>>16367423
I am not making claims about anything six gorillion miles away.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 14:12:24 UTC No. 16369769

We have no solid reason to believe it's absolutely same anywhere.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 23:18:06 UTC No. 16370719

>>16365831
They definitely are, the 'cosmological principle' is an invention that was created solely to fulfill the psychological desires of know-it-alls, it has no basis in analytical or observational science of any sort.

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:41:25 UTC No. 16374219

>>16365826
bumping because i like the image