Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 11:31:42 UTC No. 16367881

Depends on what you mean by serious.
Mars is by far the most discussed case, you can find material about it anywhere, just avoid popsci.
In short they think there aren't enough volatiles to create a sizable atmosphere, let alone a breathable one.
Importing that from outside is largely unrealistic.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 11:39:38 UTC No. 16367898

>>16367881
What if we build grid of stations there, that'll be powered by solar and emmiting electromagnetic radiation to the core in synced resonant cycles?

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 12:14:14 UTC No. 16367949

>>16367819
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adn4650
Mars can be warmed fairly easily using the Starship architecture. Only 90 launches over fifty years
There is also tons of water ice, there's just dust on top so you can't tell.
The problem is nitrogen. You'd need to mine roughly 1,000,000 times the iron ever mined by human beings by mass worth of nitrogen ice and then launch it to Mars. There are no solutions beyond "maybe automation will get better"
But you don't need to terraform it to live there. Pic related

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:03:31 UTC No. 16368526

Terraforming Mars is not happening and a waste of resources. We need to find a terrestrial planet with 0.8-1.1g, a magnetic field, a dense atmosphere of nitrogen and CO2, water oceans or lakes, weather processes soil with all the minerals required for plants to grow, and a temperature between -10 and 25. All we'd have to do is plant a bunch of trees and plants and wait a few hundred years.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:47:21 UTC No. 16368576

>>16367819
Mars is the easiest of the planets in the solar system to make habitable. You just need to melt the core somehow

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 20:34:22 UTC No. 16368656

Terraforming is not the problem. The problem is to keep the atmosphere (not to be wasted by solar winds). So before terraforming, we need a magnetosphere.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 21:35:02 UTC No. 16368743

>>16368656
Fucking moron
1. Go look up how quickly the atmosphere will blow off
2. If you can put it there in the first place you can maintain it for 1000x cheaper

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 21:36:24 UTC No. 16368745

>>16368576
>melt the core somehow
Where does the core come into it? We're living on the surface, who cares about the core

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 21:51:08 UTC No. 16368777

>>16367898
you want to slowly cook the planet?

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 07:58:58 UTC No. 16369363

>>16368745
>>16368777
Some popsci stuff about the martian core being cold and that's why it can't keep an atmosphere.
There is a grain of truth but it's quite imprecise about real numbers.
Martian core isn't even that cold, while it's true it doesn't produce a magnetic field, but even without one it still takes like a million years to deplete a valuable atmosphere.
The real problem is making such an atmosphere.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 22:14:15 UTC No. 16370585

>>16367949
How big would the mattress forming have to be to have a simple breeze on a summer morning?
Can air currents even form naturally in those?

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 22:25:17 UTC No. 16370611

>>16367819
Reminder that the musk mars mission is a scam

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 22:33:38 UTC No. 16370620

>>16370585
There's enough nitrogen on Mars to make one of those about the size of half the United States. I'd say that's enough. Hell it's likely big enough for an actual unguided ecosystem
>>16370611
A scam usually involves making money instead of spending it

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 22:41:25 UTC No. 16370641

>>16370585
>>16370620
Should note that that's with a ceiling height of 400 meters. That puts enough air between you and the sun to reduce radiation risk down to nothing. If radiation is solved some other way you can lower that to 100 meters and raise the pressurized land area to double the United States

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 02:16:31 UTC No. 16370944

>>16367949
>Mars can be warmed fairly easily using the Starship architecture.
^This is what musk simps unironically believe^

A minute of silence.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:44:43 UTC No. 16371463

>>16370620
>what is investment

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:56:03 UTC No. 16371472

>>16367819
We can't even terraform Earth yet.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:32:33 UTC No. 16371831

>>16367881
>free oil from titan
ez pez
all the carbon oxygen and nitrogen you'd ever need

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:33:35 UTC No. 16371833

>>16371472
We are currently venusforming it

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:47:54 UTC No. 16371863

>>16368526
there are zero planets that have these properties

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 11:00:42 UTC No. 16371895

>>16367819
Define ‘serious’. There has been extensive discussion but no real scientific agency has really tried hard to get it to work as far as I’m aware.

More or less pure theorycrafting.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 11:06:19 UTC No. 16371911

>>16370944
Read the study I posted lmao

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 11:07:20 UTC No. 16371914

>>16371463
The investors are buying into starlink which is profitable