Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 15:51:09 UTC No. 16368297

>>16368279
All those engineering 'gimmicks' of ancient times had no usefulness for their time, more gifts or secret curiosities than machines with applications like the water mill. They're like sowing seeds on salted soil.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 16:17:33 UTC No. 16368329

>>16368279
Not very plausible, lots of useful inventions rely on earlier inventions. The Greeks did not have precision steel lathes, as an example

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 16:18:22 UTC No. 16368333

>>16368279
The economics just don't work without a swathe of other innovations and social conditions that just didn't exist so no

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 16:30:55 UTC No. 16368355

>>16368279
There's supposedly an account that the byzantine throne room featured steam-powered automata like mechanical birds and lions, but I don't know its veracity

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 17:39:13 UTC No. 16368429

>>16368279
Did they have cheap coal?

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 17:48:24 UTC No. 16368448

steam power was only really able to develop in places like england where there was cheap enough coal and water supplies.
The early steam engines were pretty inefficient based on condensing rather than pressurised steam but metalurgy and metal joining wasn't developed enough to build pressure steam systems.
they would pipe steam into a chamber then spray cold water into that chamber then use that pressure drop to suck the plunger down. Like I thinnk the newcommen engine
I think if I remember right it took a century or more of development to go from this to boilers and chambers that could handle high temperature high pressure steam and several secondary chambers to use the secodary steam.
they had to develop welding and riveting mechanisms that would work and metal chambers that could handle the loads

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 17:55:52 UTC No. 16368454

>Were the roman's close to an infustrial revolution?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uqPlOAH85o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5HDQUuI6_E

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 17:56:56 UTC No. 16368457

>>16368279
probably impossible due to the state of the world they were in.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 23:02:47 UTC No. 16368872

>>16368279
They didn't have the economic basis for it. The romans would rather hire 100 slaves to work a field than invent a machine that could replace them all. Industrialization isn't just about the scientific discoveries. Look at China, they invented so many things but never applied them.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 14:58:52 UTC No. 16369820

>>16368279
I don't think the Grece has workable deposits of iron, coal or the wood to ship them there.

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 07:38:58 UTC No. 16373822

>>16368872
>but never applied them.
you fell off the edge into the idiot pool

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:15:49 UTC No. 16373849

>>16368279
They didnt, so it wasnt plausible. How about that.
How about the ancient greeks didnt use steam power due to reasons they must have had?
Perhaps one time some wealthy greek was given an investment pitch from a steam enthusiast and.. he decided not to invest? Maybe it just didnt fit their psychological profile. Or the weather or whatever.
Fact is it was basically not plasible.
If you were a god and wanted to settle this question scientifically you could create an earth that has ancient greece on it, then watch as it doesnt use steam power. That would imply "steam power not feasible in ancient greece". Only issue of contention is N=1

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:02:46 UTC No. 16373956

>>16368279
They had slave labor so there was no need for steam engines.

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:06:52 UTC No. 16375648

>>16368279
Doesnt this belong on >>>/his/

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:14:30 UTC No. 16377484

Their metallurgy wasn't advanced enough to make actually useful engines.