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Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 16:08:31 UTC No. 16368316
Why the hate for Openstax?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 17:10:15 UTC No. 16368393
>>16368316
the books are ok but not as good as most other texts aimed at the same level. for the amount of time you spend working on, say, physics vol. 1, you could easily make more gains in understanding studying from HRK or even a more advanced text like marion or landau. they're not bad (very few textbooks qualify as "bad" imo -- reading textbooks, provided they're not out of date, is generally a net-positive) but i don't recommend them.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 17:19:39 UTC No. 16368404
>>16368316
bloat
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 17:40:59 UTC No. 16368433
>>16368316
Raw content they're worse than just about every other textbook out there. But this should be cautioned by saying it's absolutely fine for learning the content. I don't think anything is egregiously wrong, at least not in the physics texts.
However in terms of bang for your buck you can't beat it. Do you want to pay $200 for 30% extra depth and pretty pictures and better problems? Only you can answer that question.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:57:32 UTC No. 16368517
globohomo
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:14:55 UTC No. 16368534
>>16368393
Are you a bot?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:20:18 UTC No. 16368542
>>16368433
Are the other books pictures ugly? 200 dollars is alot of money, especially if you multiply that number. What are better problems? What makes a problem worse?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:21:55 UTC No. 16368546
>>16368542
Mouf
Grumpy
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:23:23 UTC No. 16368549
>>16368542
But pilgrim
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:24:11 UTC No. 16368551
if you smart you can understand the universe just with those books
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 19:36:22 UTC No. 16368564
>>16368316
It's just not good. Maybe it could teach children, but then that's why it's disregarded it's like talking about the hungry caterpillar in a serious conversation.
Plus there are better optimized resources.
A lot of good free books just on professors' websites
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 23:03:35 UTC No. 16368873
They're not as terrible as people make them out to be desu, particularly the math/science ones. Can't say anything about the history and social science ones though.
Of all of the ones I've read the Physics ones are by far the best, hands down.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 23:12:24 UTC No. 16368880
I self-studied from the OpenStax Physics and Statistics textbooks prior to taking those subjects in college. OpenStax books are fine for high school courses and first-year college courses. The problems vary in difficulty from easy to mildly challenging, which is comparable to what you'd get on college-level assingments and exams. The only issues with them are that there are not that many of them, and that you won't find any for more advanced subjects.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 23:15:42 UTC No. 16368887
>>16368316
I taught physics with the openstax and they were fine. better than most students deserve.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 23:29:02 UTC No. 16368904
Emotion, fear, strong dislike, and irrational behavior help some of the fundamental hatred behind openstax
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 00:01:29 UTC No. 16368954
>>16368316
I haven't looked closely at them, but I could see myself using it as a "supplemental/optional" text for a class. I have thought for a while that I'd like to use a book like Short Calculus for a class, in which case an open source book could be a good supplement.
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 00:06:18 UTC No. 16368963
>>16368945
At that level, the most important thing is to just do problems to build intuition, so the book doesn't matter too much
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 03:31:26 UTC No. 16369165
>>16368433
pay?
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 03:41:35 UTC No. 16369168
elitism
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:23:26 UTC No. 16372253
>>16368945
OpenStax is a mess. Compare the table of contents of their
Algebra and Trigonometry
College Algebra
Precalculus
to see what I mean. Stewart's books have too much bloat and are becoming less and less self-contained with each new edition (no, I won't be downloading damn PDF chapters that have been moved to a website because too many pictures and too much marketing bullshit has crammed your book).
Just get Axler's beautiful book Precalculus, and save yourself the pain of comparing algebra this, college algebra that, trigonometry this, precalculus that.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:31:15 UTC No. 16372261
>>16372253
>>16368945
>and Calculus?
Oh, sorry, missed this part. For calculus I-III, I recommend Anton. Here's why:
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/16182
>I remember once doing a broad comparison of big-book calculus (Stewart, Larson, Anton, and Thomas), comparing the explanations for Rolle's & MVT, for the FTC, for indeterminate forms, and some other shit, and imo Anton is the superior, more pedagogically sound writer.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 15:09:57 UTC No. 16372314
>>16372253
>Just get Axler's beautiful book Precalculus
He also has a book on algebra and trig. Should I start from there or is his precalc book good enough?
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 16:10:18 UTC No. 16372439
>>16368316
libretexts, my beloved
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 16:35:54 UTC No. 16372487
>>16369165
Yar har fiddle deedee, being a pirate is alright with me. Do what you like 'cause a pirate is free. You are a pirate.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:35:42 UTC No. 16372779
I like contents divided into html pages more than pdfs.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:55:22 UTC No. 16372834
>>16372779
This is one thing I miss about Openstax
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:57:01 UTC No. 16372842
>>16368316
Their psychology book talks about depolarization of neuron, but lacks anything about it requirement of ATP on repolarization.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:28:45 UTC No. 16373061
>>16372314
Axler's College Algebra is precisely the first 496 pages of his Algebra and Trigonometry (same page numbers and everything):
https://algebra.axler.net/Contents.
https://algebratrig.axler.net/Conte
His Precalculus is an improved rewrite of Algebra and Trigonometry. Some things have been renamed and/or rearranged. The only two deletions are the chapter on systems of equations (this material will be covered in elementary linear algebra) and the ten or so pages on parametric curves (this can be found in any big calculus book from Anton, Stewart, etc.).
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:41:58 UTC No. 16373084
>>16373061
Kids ware drawing pictures with parametric curves and equations, so they put that later to stop creativity. Please tell me it's just my paranoia of why it happened.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:46:36 UTC No. 16373092
>>16373084
High school math is not allowed to be fun :-)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 00:24:19 UTC No. 16373467
Hate is the billion dollar publisher company propaganda. They are perfectly fine. They are textbook without frills.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 01:13:05 UTC No. 16373529
>>16368945
Idk, never read them. At any rate, you should probably use something like Thomas/Finney or Apostol (both better than and avoids Stewart who was a homosexual and avoids Spivak who was Jewish). Or just get one of McMullen's workbooks.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:11:48 UTC No. 16375101
>>16373061
>Axler's Precalculus
I'm trying the first set of problems and it's hard. I found solutions, and I don't understand how they expect us to prove at this level. Must not be for me