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Anonymous No. 16369964

Virginijus Šikšnys is a Lithuanian biochemist and a professor at Vilnius University. He is a chief scientist at the Vilnius University Institute of Biotechnology.
He developed gene editing method a month before Jennifer Doudna and Emmanuelle Charpentier on the bottom, but unlike them Virginijus Šikšnys didn't get nobel Prize for his work.
Because these women had more tight connections with academic sphere and their work was not even reviewed but Šikšnys's work was rejected for no reason

>Since 2007 Šikšnys focused on mechanistic studies of CRISPR-Cas, the newly discovered bacterial antiviral systems, and was among the first to demonstrate programmable DNA cleavage by the Cas9 protein.
>According to Šikšnys, his article was not even considered as serious by the editor board of the academic journal and was not sent to the reviewers, therefore the time needed to be recognized as first was lost.
>Martin Schlak reported that Šikšnys submitted his article describing DNA cleavage by Cas9 to Cell Reports on 18 April 2012. After its rejection without peer review, he sent it to PNAS one month later, and it took several months for review and publication. In the meantime, Jennifer Doudna and Emmanuelle Charpentier had published their findings in Science where their findings were reviewed and accepted within two weeks.
Also after some time there was a report that shared some money from nobel prize, It looks like he was paid to keep quiet

Anonymous No. 16369999

>>16369964
Are you a lithuanian by any chance?

Anonymous No. 16370007

>>16369964
The Japanese guy who discovered the CRISPR mechanism in bacteria in the first place also didn't get any recognition.

Anonymous No. 16370024

>>16369964
Honestly, who cares? This is all just soft sciences nonsense. Give the discovery credit to the women, it's Biology nobody cares.

Anonymous No. 16370034

>>16370024
>soft sciences
>Microbiology

Anonymous No. 16371082

>>16370007
Well, he did a good job but that was ordinary

Anonymous No. 16374059

>>16369999
Why should he be?

Anonymous No. 16374656

>>16370007
Yeah really?

Anonymous No. 16374662

>>16370034
Who is Michael and why do I care about his biology

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Anonymous No. 16374671

>>16369964
Why the fuck do all these boomer women shitlib bourgeois academic types always wear these scarves? They all wear these lightweight neckscarves. It's like how they signal to other woke elites and intellectuals that they're not uneducated, anti-science proletarian subhumans. It's like the analog of club belts for boomer women, so you can signal to your peers and flex on the chuds with you sophisticated, bourgeois sense of style.

Anonymous No. 16374684

>>16369964
Imagine calling your son "Virginijus"

Anonymous No. 16376661

>>16374684
Over from the starte

Anonymous No. 16376840

>>16369964
Did he at least publish a preprint somewhere first?

Anonymous No. 16377447

>>16376840
Look at him, his name is literally virgin and he was bullied by two women. You think he would care about it?

Anonymous No. 16377452

>>16376840
>Did he at least publish a preprint somewhere first?
That fact that his paper was submitted first is not in dispute.
The funny part is that the peer-reviewer at the journal where he sent it happened to be too stupid to understand the paper, so it was rejected. He submitted it as it was to another journal with someone less retarded, but by then it was too late, of course.
So his groundbreaking paper lost because of a peer referee who was probably only on staff to check a quota box.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16377499

>>16369964
>wut how do all these jews have so many contributions
kek

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16378991

>>16377499
None of them are Jewish though

Anonymous No. 16379152

>>16377452
>ground breaking work
Look, I'm team virgin as much as the next guy, mainly because I worked at the same department under the guy. but quantifying a few CAS proteins isint as significant as describing the higgs field or finding out what DNA does. Everyone and their grandmas dog was working on CAS proteins at the time, not to discredit the work, because it was superb and the whole team was and is very competent (and its basically one of the two departments that carry the whole institute) but god damn dude, touch some fucking grass and take some lithium salts.

Are the nobels political, yes they are, did the cunts deserve a nobel, maybe kinda, they did groundbreaking work as well, point is everything in life is shit, except piss, the department burns through honors students by working them to the bone like toilet paper during cholera for example.

Suck it up nigger, also if you are spamming Virginijus, get some psychological help before you go for the high score in LSC.

Anonymous No. 16379387

>>16369964
niekada nesulaukiame pripazinimo kurio esame nusipelne..

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Anonymous No. 16379591

>>16379152
>I don't want to discredit his work and I'm on his team
>Cunts deserve nobel and his work isn't as significant

Anonymous No. 16380439

>>16374671
Evil love style

Anonymous No. 16381462

>>16379387
Seems like op cares more about women part than the Lithuanian part

Anonymous No. 16381776

>>16379152
>GUISE I TOTALLY WORKED WITH HIM.
Everyone believes you.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16382634

>>16377499
Krk

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No. 16382830

>>16377452
>the peer-reviewer at the journal where he sent it happened to be too stupid to understand the paper, so it was rejected. He submitted it as it was to another journal with someone less retarded, but by then it was too late, of course.
interesting
of course i need you to submit the paper that explains why or how the first reviewers were indeed retarded just to be clear

Anonymous No. 16383732

>>16370034
you are right, that's not soft science but outright gooey.

Anonymous No. 16383782

>>16383732
You dont have any clue about what are you talking about

Anonymous No. 16383964

>>16370024
Jeet detected

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16383990

>>16374671
from the thumbnail i thought that was the jeopardy tranny

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Anonymous No. 16384031

>>16379152
>everything in life is shit, except piss
Pure wisdom.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16384797

Can i get pussy?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16384999

>>16369964
Jewish award, who cares. Jew Kissinger was given nobel peace prize after genociding 3 million men women and children

Anonymous No. 16385120

>>16369964
Yes, that is what academic snobbism is - you can do top-tier work, be first to make the actual discovery and still be overlooked while publishing just because you are from a 3rd tier institution while someone from a high-tier institution can get into a prestigious journal with almost immediately.
Yes, he was snubbed for the Nobel.
No, it is not fair.
Yes, we just have to accept it, as there is no fighting the system and all of its biases that is orders of magnitude more powerful than any individual or even an institution. For everyone who was awarder there are 10 people whose work was just as groundbreaking but they received no recognition due to snobbism and politics.
Yes, I am Lithuanian.
No, I did not work with this guy nor do I know him personally.
You may continue to be mad

Anonymous No. 16385124

>>16379387
Deja

Anonymous No. 16385788

>>16384999
*Scandinavian, nordic

Anonymous No. 16386289

>>16369964
can you link what you are quoting?

Anonymous No. 16387159

>>16386289
It's probably his wiki page

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16388073

Fuck women

Anonymous No. 16389662

>>16385120
Do you wanna kys,

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16390010

>>16369964
>Virginijus Šikšnys didn't get nobel Prize for his work.
>Because these women had more tight connections with academic sphere

Jews use their connections to nominate and reward their own tribe too. It's why they're so overrepresented among Nobel winners.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16391683

Women being women

Anonymous No. 16391705

>>16369964
He is white but kind of swarthy and not chad looking, of course society at large will ignore such a man.

Anonymous No. 16391709

>>16391705
he's a scientist, what do you expect him to look like?

Anonymous No. 16391716

>>16391705
In what world he is considered swarthy? He looks deadpale

Anonymous No. 16392645

>>16391709
Like gay faggot

Anonymous No. 16394059

>>16370024
Indian retard

Anonymous No. 16394093

>>16379152
I believe you. However, what he or you or the woman did wasn't very impressive. I can only imagine leading as easy of lives as all of you have had it and can't relate one bit to your world.

Anonymous No. 16394161

>>16394093
>worthy of a Nobel
>wasn't very impressive
pick one

Anonymous No. 16394816

>>16394161
>programmable DNA cleavage by the Cas9 protein.
Not that impressive. An upper midwit can achieve this provided he has a nice stable job, can eat without worrying about breaking the bank, no major expenses, and having resources and bitchboy helpers like you helps considerably. Time, money, no stress, doing something your interested in, you can achieve a lot. He has it easy.

Anonymous No. 16394843

>>16394816
Imagine how easier it was for women considering the level of their bitchboys in prestigious western facilities whose bitchboy's effort they equalated to girl power

Anonymous No. 16394885

>>16394816
I would like to see you do anything of that scale by yourself. Given by how you speak, I think you are probably some armchair "specialist"

Anonymous No. 16395857

Women moments of history

Anonymous No. 16396573

They should be beaten

Anonymous No. 16397765

>>16370024
Poo.

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Anonymous No. 16397766

>>16370024

Anonymous No. 16398448

>>16397766
N

Anonymous No. 16398536

>>16374671
They are old, fat and have double chins and weird wart ridden saggy wrinkled turkey necks to hide.

Anonymous No. 16398605

>>16394885
Yet you have no real defense or counter to the criticism. 'I would like you see you try' is something that low IQ blue collar people would levy (which would have been a more fitting station for you in life). The other, is simply tone policing that you have learned from the prissy scarf women. The only thing you managed to demonstrate with this outburst is that you are not as intelligent as I am. To address it, I lack the background, the time, and the money. If I had sufficient capital, where I would no longer need to work, and was paid, I would call your bluff and within two years would surpass the professor and his malcontents.

Anonymous No. 16398644

>>16379152
>did the cunts deserve a nobel, maybe kinda
What happened to "quantifying a few CAS proteins isint as significant " and why did you ignore it as soon as you had a couple of cunts to appeal to?

Anonymous No. 16398654

>>16398605
>'I would like you see you try' is something that low IQ blue collar people would levy
Only against other even lower IQ blue collar people who say even stupider shit like "Its pretty easy to revolutionize science if you just get a nice stable job, so you don't have to worry about money".

Anonymous No. 16398941

>>16398654
Completely agree.
Not to mention a top-notch lab with all the infrastructure in place along with research assistants who are motivated to help me and are highly qualified in a specialized sub-field.
Yeah, given all that, making substantial contributions to any field is pretty easy.
I guess that is why all those MIT, Stanford and Cambridge PIs leading research groups make these contributions in the first place - not because they are inherently more knowledgeable or skilled (which they MIGHT be), but simply because they are given ALL the means to do so

Anonymous No. 16398943

>>16398605
>I can do anything, just don't have the means
Suure

Anonymous No. 16399075

>>16398941
Therefore this dude's contribution is amazing. He did all of it without resources these women have, and made it before them

Anonymous No. 16399093

>>16399075
yes, and he got snubbed for the Nobel for all his hard work, just because he was not from a prestigious institution, even though he was first to make the discovery

Anonymous No. 16399096

>>16399093
when the current establishment falls, his name will be remembered

Anonymous No. 16399123

>>16399096
I doubt that will happen in our lifetime, if ever

Anonymous No. 16400720

>>16399123
World is a rapidly changing system

Anonymous No. 16400777

>>16400720
true, but people tend to overestimate how fast things progress in the short term

Anonymous No. 16401000

>>16400777
As they underestimate the vice versa scenario

Anonymous No. 16402044

bump for (mostly) quality discussion

Anonymous No. 16402308

>>16374671
Hides the neck waddles

Anonymous No. 16403561

>>16374671
They are the turkey

Anonymous No. 16404594

bump for boredom

Anonymous No. 16404788

>>16370024
Kill yourself rajesh

Anonymous No. 16405477

Maybe we should force him as a meme?

Anonymous No. 16405479

>>16405477
how does that work?

Anonymous No. 16406345

>>16405479
Well, anons always know how to do stuff like that. We can make a meme from his name (literally virgin) and that Lithuanians kill themselves

Anonymous No. 16406689

>>16406345
sounds mean spirited

Anonymous No. 16406705

>>16406689
Do you have some other ideas?

Anonymous No. 16406759

>>16406705
I think the time for this has passed - the time for outrage and some sort of campaign was immediately after the Nobel was announced that year - now it has largely faded into obscurity (aside from this basket weaving forum that is).
Also, at least he did not end up with nothing - he got the Kavli prize in nanotechnology

Anonymous No. 16407298

>>16406759
Well, this basket forum can make anything with enough determination though. And the problem of gynocentrical academia is very important and big right now

Anonymous No. 16407672

>>16407298
both statements are true. If you think you have a decent shot, go for it

Anonymous No. 16407784

>>16407672
But do you have passion about it?

Anonymous No. 16407884

>>16407784
not really

Anonymous No. 16408423

>>16397766
Pajeet

Anonymous No. 16409545

>>16407884
Why? Would be interesting

Anonymous No. 16409729

>>16374671
They're all into choking and autoerotic asphyxiation - the scarves hide the bruises

Anonymous No. 16410395

>>16374671
Evil loves style

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Anonymous No. 16412078

As Kant predicted

Anonymous No. 16412812

>>16383732
Rajesh

Anonymous No. 16413711

>>16395857
Curie is also fake

Anonymous No. 16414401

>>16413711
was not

Anonymous No. 16415057

>>16414401
Was.

Anonymous No. 16415144

>>16415057
proof?

Anonymous No. 16415798

>>16415144
name me 1(one) formula that was made by marie instead of pierre

Anonymous No. 16415845

>>16415798
easy - every formula

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Anonymous No. 16415861

>>16415845
>every formula

Anonymous No. 16415955

>>16415845
>>16415861
based

Anonymous No. 16416279

>Also after some time there was a report that shared some money from nobel prize, It looks like he was paid to keep quiet
Link for this?

Anonymous No. 16416310

>>16369964
>Wah-wah-wah
The Global Wahmbulance Service is Temporarily Overwhelmed. Please try again later.

Anonymous No. 16417303

>>16416310
Kys

Anonymous No. 16417468

>>16417303
>Wah-wah-wah
Brilliant.

Anonymous No. 16418672

>>16417468
You can't talk normally aren't you

Anonymous No. 16420926

>>16415845
Lies

Anonymous No. 16421016

>>16418672
>You can't talk normally aren't you
Classic.

Anonymous No. 16421088

>>16370007
yea and no one talks about rasiRNA despite two nobel prizes are now directly related with its research. Argonaut proteins can be programmed the same way as gRNAs in cas9 on a transcriptional level (while also being self-amplifying in the germline) but miRNA takes the cake because hairpins are simple to use in knockdowns.
it's a humbug, but malding won't solve that issue. there's massive teams looking at reprogramming these systems nowadays, so I don't really give a fuck.

Anonymous No. 16421358

>>16421016
Classic my ass

Anonymous No. 16421379

>>16370007
He wasn't gay enough

Anonymous No. 16422723

>>16421379
This guy looks gay?

Anonymous No. 16423613

>>16409729
this but unironically

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Anonymous No. 16424289

Women always had it easy

Anonymous No. 16425649

>>16370024
Man, you're a tard who's never folded proteins. Molecular gen/biochem have a higher male-to-female ratio than chemcuckery and physics. Keep copin' shitsin!
>>16397766
Indian

sage No. 16428629

>almost half of the replies have 5 words or less
very organic

Anonymous No. 16429000

>>16421088
Because he can't fuck around and get everything as these fucking whores

Anonymous No. 16429625

>>16374671
they're nooses. it's a jungian response to being a fucking worthless fraud getting by because you have a dried up pussy between your cellulite-ridden legs, you subconsciously put a noose around your neck.

Anonymous No. 16430555

>>16428629
Seems like you are newbie

Anonymous No. 16432545

>>16370024
Why are paeets so idiotic? It's kn their dna?

Anonymous No. 16434146

>>16415955
Based only in your small brain. Midwit

Anonymous No. 16434565

>>16369964
>Virginijus Šikšnys
That sounds like a very common condition on /sci/

Anonymous No. 16434567

>>16434565
I don't think this place is so much virgin

Anonymous No. 16435906

>>16434567
>He doesn't know

Anonymous No. 16436686

>>16415798
The most retarded comment I've seen for awhile

Anonymous No. 16438298

>>16434565
Virgin bros...

Anonymous No. 16438621

>>16438298
Not like this

Anonymous No. 16440080

>>16369964
12 months.

Anonymous No. 16440190

>>16440080
What 12 months?
Captcha GMRNA

Anonymous No. 16440338

>>16369964
There is so much controversy with so many Nobel prizes that at some point and adult male just has to accept that they are bullshit.

Anonymous No. 16440839

>>16440338
But there was no controversy, people didn't care and accepted feminism dogma

Anonymous No. 16440899

>>16440338
unfortunately, you are right

Anonymous No. 16440901

>>16440839
normies are getting indoctrinated, what can you do

Anonymous No. 16442100

>>16440338
What controversies except this and lobotomy were in scientific nobel?

Anonymous No. 16443901

>>16440901
Normies are the worst

Anonymous No. 16444294

>>16443901
And yet, they are the reason society functions

Anonymous No. 16445274

>>16444294
Elaborate?

Anonymous No. 16445429

>>16445274
They do all the normal jobs the economy needs, thus creating value, some of which can be redistributed to serve the needs of society including infrastructure, healthcare, education, science, etc

Anonymous No. 16445964

>>16445429
Normies mostly work on fake jobs, real shit is done by nerds and chads

Anonymous No. 16445995

>>16445964
No - there are not enough of them (even combined) to pull the economy

Anonymous No. 16446895

>>16445995
Their jobs are fake, they are not essential for economy, their effort is pointless

Anonymous No. 16447228

>>16446895
Tell me which jobs are fake then

Anonymous No. 16447707

>>16447228
>Almost all jobs related to bureaucracy
>Jobs related to maintain this bureaucracy
>Half of personal in highly producing jobs, because most job is done by nerds, and normies do mostly harm

Anonymous No. 16448417

>>16447228
>>16447707
Also forgot: women in science works

Anonymous No. 16450256

>>16369964
12 months

Anonymous No. 16450593

>>16450256
What do you mean? Elaborate

Anonymous No. 16451152

>>16445964
>>16447707
>>16448417
Essentially all jobs in construction, industry, medicine, law, retail, advertising, sales - are done by normies, not nerds or chads

Anonymous No. 16451994

>>16451152
>law, retail, advertising, sales
Already almost replaced
>construction, industry, medicine
Not only normies

Anonymous No. 16452006

>>16451994
>Already almost replaced
Replaced by what? IA? Anyone who has used ChatGPT or any other AI knows it is a far cry from an actual professional
>Not only normies
Mostly normies

Anonymous No. 16453095

>>16452006
>Mostly normies
Ther wouldn't be a need for so many normies for these occupations if there wouldn't be normies

Anonymous No. 16453265

>>16453095
There would be no need for the economy if there were no humans

Anonymous No. 16453345

>>16453265
*No useless humans

Anonymous No. 16453457

>>16453265
Only non normies deserve life

Anonymous No. 16453835

>>16369964
Fyi DuPont (huge chem multinational) got some licenses for some of this CRISPR-Cas9 tech.
>>16413711
>Curie is also fake
Isn't she known for having discovered an element? I recall reading they were extracting radioactive stuff and when it was all extracted she realized something radioactive was still in the rock or whatever. So they looked and indeed there was something else. A few days later they presented the findings. I'm no chemist/biologist/etc but she's the only one I can name who discovered an element. For men the bar for fame is set a lot higher.

Anonymous No. 16454518

>>16453835
Females love megacorps

Anonymous No. 16455584

>>16453835
>Isn't she known for having discovered an element
She "discovered" it as a lab technician for her husband

Anonymous No. 16457226

>>16369964
say 12 months in estonian.

Anonymous No. 16457783

>>16415845
Why are you so retarded?

Anonymous No. 16459274

>>16457226
Elobarate already

Anonymous No. 16459979

>>16453835
Is dupont an evil organisation?

Anonymous No. 16459989

>>16459979
They do pollute the environment, so yes. Then again, so do all manufacturers

Anonymous No. 16460837

>>16451152
You have no idea what you are talking about. You should kill yourself normalfag

Anonymous No. 16460842

>>16460837
no, you don't have any idea what you are talking about. Normies are 90% of all people, hence essential for the economy in every way

Anonymous No. 16461868

>>16460842
Only for normies, if normies are gone then there is no economic bloat

Anonymous No. 16462275

>>16461868
Define the "bloat". What is it - construction, healthcare, energy, transportation, tech?

Anonymous No. 16463295

>>16462275
>Define the "bloat". What is it - construction, healthcare, energy, transportation, tech?
Excessive production of these goods for normies

Anonymous No. 16463744

>>16463295
And what counts as "excessive"?

Anonymous No. 16463815

>>16463744
Production that is meant to serve normies

Anonymous No. 16464022

>>16463815
circular reasoning detected - you are a bot

Anonymous No. 16465232

>>16464022
No normies = no need for production for them.
Production for normies = useless
Try to use buzzwords in other places. Maybe on lit, normie

Anonymous No. 16465236

>>16465232
I farted.

Anonymous No. 16465860

>>16465236
Fart with your pseudo logical fallacies in other places

Anonymous No. 16467248

>>16379152
>the department burns through honors students by working them to the bone like toilet paper during cholera
never go to work for academia, thats my life motto

Anonymous No. 16467299

>>16467248
why do you think industry is any better

Anonymous No. 16468237

>>16467299
At least they pay more

Anonymous No. 16468288

>>16468237
probably the only saving grace

Anonymous No. 16468329

>>16369964
why isn't this known to the public?

Anonymous No. 16468387

>>16468329
It is very known in Lithuania. In the US and other western countries people just don't care about it, because its these big rich countries that "keep on winning" - they were not hurt by this

Anonymous No. 16468484

>>16468387
Can you add some information about this story?

Anonymous No. 16468665

>>16468484
The broadstrokes are presented by OP.
Here are some sources in Lithuanian (use google translate on the website)
1) https://www.delfi.lt/mokslas/mokslas/siu-metu-nobeliai-papiktino-net-forbes-teigia-kad-laureatu-turejo-tapti-ir-prof-siksnys-85498447
2) https://www.delfi.lt/mokslas/mokslas/lietuvos-mokslo-bendruomene-yra-nusivylusi-nobelio-premija-turejo-gauti-ir-prof-siksnys-85433677

Anonymous No. 16469540

>>16468665
Why non Lithuanians don't talk about it? Maybe he us fake?

Anonymous No. 16469553

>>16469540
>he is
*He is

Anonymous No. 16469683

>>16469540
Because they don't care about Lithuania. Most of them probably cant even put us on the fucking map correctly because we are a small post soviet shithole

Anonymous No. 16470423

>>16469683
R u mad? R u biologist?

Anonymous No. 16470450

>>16470423
a bit mad, but not a biologist

Anonymous No. 16471160

>>16424289
This

Anonymous No. 16471237

>>16369964
That's just Fabio Fazio, you infidel blaspbemer
Mogul Boldi will claim your flesh

Anonymous No. 16472094

>>16471237
>That's just Fabio Fazio
What

Anonymous No. 16473506

>>16468665
This is really suspicious that only shituanians care about this so called discovery

Anonymous No. 16473557

>>16473506
They care about not getting recognition for the discovery, dumbass

Anonymous No. 16474811

>>16473557
If this was so big, westerners probably would do something about it

Anonymous No. 16474891

>>16474811
What for? They were not the ones hurt by this

Anonymous No. 16476312

>>16474891
Russians also always claim something

Anonymous No. 16476735

>>16476312
makes no sense

Anonymous No. 16477688

>>16476735
It actually makes, ee people are always claiming something

Anonymous No. 16478096

>>16374671
Evil trait

Anonymous No. 16478997

>>16453835
Oy vey

Anonymous No. 16480317

>>16465236
Most valuable thing you could ever do

Anonymous No. 16481727

>>16413711
This

Anonymous No. 16482969

>>16369964
It shows that women should not be part of academia

Anonymous No. 16486070

Women are just stupid animals