Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:59:32 UTC No. 16371477

>>16371165
Native Americans literally carry genes of the Ancient North Eurasian mammoth hunters who were living right next to Beringia during the ice age. Its literally undeniable they came from an Eastern route not a Western route. It also explains the caucasoid features in Native Americans because North European Whites have a lot of Ancient North Eurasian DNA as well, much more than they have Solutrean DNA.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:29:35 UTC No. 16371819

>>16371165
>How did humans supposedly cross the Bering land bridge in the middle of an ice age when it would have been beneath an ice sheet miles thick?
Are you stupid?
By walking. Walking over the ice. How stupid you have to be to know you can walk on ice.
Stupid motherfucker *pff pff*
Sea levels dropped during the ice age, not raised. You imbecile. How many basic logic mistakes can you make in one post?

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 11:36:03 UTC No. 16371968

>>16371165
They rowed along the coastline and ate kelp for sustenance

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:39:33 UTC No. 16372073

>>16371165
>when it would have been beneath an ice sheet miles thick?
but it wasn't, not even during the very middle of LGM. The only part where there's a block on the bridge is already in the Southern coast of Alaska, but the interplay between a warmer oceanic weather and the glacier prob meant it wasn't a solid wall encroaching into the water.

And then you have the fact that there still would be people on the bridge and South-North Canadian coast while the maximum passed and the glacier receded.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:48:36 UTC No. 16372087

>>16371165
Are /pol/tards at this point coming here just to troll and post slide threads?
Go back to your containment board, retard.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:55:13 UTC No. 16372099

>>16371819
>Walking over the ice.
Too slippery

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:56:46 UTC No. 16372701

>>16371165
Genetics absolutely destroyed the Solutrean Hypothesis. There's no point in discussing it anymore. Every native american have paleolithic siberian DNA, but not paleolithic european DNA.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:46:10 UTC No. 16372804

>>16371477

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 19:00:39 UTC No. 16372850

>>16372804
Turks are the real Native Americans confirmed

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 02:27:35 UTC No. 16373569

>>16372073
>bering straight
>65ºN
>it wasn't under ice during the ice age
lmao at the massive ridiculous lies scientists need to make up to keep their ideologically driven narratives alive

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 02:56:18 UTC No. 16373601

>>16372804
>Since the later 2000s and during the 2010s, evidence has turned against the Solutrean hypothesis, as no presence of mt-DNA ancestral to X2a has been found in Europe or the Near East. New World lineages X2a and X2g are not derived from the Old World lineages X2b, X2c, X2d, X2e, and X2f, indicating an early origin of the New World lineages "likely at the very beginning of their expansion and spread from the Near East".[12] A 2008 study came to the conclusion that the presence of haplogroup X in the Americas does not support migration from Solutrean-period Europe.[17] The lineage of haplogroup X in the Americas is not derived from a European subclade, but rather represent an independent subclade, labelled X2a.[24] The X2a subclade has not been found in Eurasia, and has most likely arisen within the early Paleo-Indian population, at roughly 13,000 years ago.[25] A basal variant of X2a was found in the Kennewick Man fossil (ca. 9,000 years ago).[26]

even the wiki article you took the pic from doesn't agree with you lmao

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:35:59 UTC No. 16375361

>>16373569
>The arctic gets warm during an ice age.
>also loss of ice in the arctic is a sign of global warming
>t. trust the science

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 23:56:29 UTC No. 16377731

>>16375361
Half the world's population is below 100IQ and those people all have stupid beliefs

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 18:56:17 UTC No. 16378982

maps like picrel make no sense because there aren't any stone tool or other archaeological finds to suggest any migration between ice age asia and north america like there are between ice age europe and north america. the time frame of the supposed migration from asia is also conveniently just a few thousand years after the migration from europe, so its clear that what really happened was that north america was settled on the east coast by europeans who subsequently migrated westwards eventually crossing either the bering land bridge or the pacific coast from north america to asia east to west.
if you use that hypothesis then all of the supposed pime taradoxes in the north american archaeological record stop being paradoxical and become chronological

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 19:02:05 UTC No. 16378992

>>16372850
>turks
Anatolians**

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 03:16:37 UTC No. 16379513

>>16378992
most of the people who currently live in turkey migrated there relatively recently.

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 03:21:18 UTC No. 16379518

The ice sheets acted like vine bridges. Tough and sturdy. There was no land beneath. It was dangerous. Volatile

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 15:12:18 UTC No. 16380058

>>16378982
>it's totally unrealistic for humans to have crossed what is today a shallow strait that is 50 miles wide
>it's much more likely that palaeolithic people sailed for weeks or months across 2000 miles of open ocean

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 15:34:15 UTC No. 16380083

>>16380058
Wouldn't be surprised if both turned out to be true and true multiple times.

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:11:32 UTC No. 16380147

>>16380058
*what is today 2000 miles of open ocean. Even if the distances were shorter they would still be much longer than what was required to cross from Asia. And any talk about fishing, ice sheets, kelp etc. runs into the simple problem that it is still much more difficult than a Beringia crossing.

I don't even dislike the idea! Descendents of Cro-Magnons hunting mastodons in Appalachia is cool as fuck. However, the evidence for any crossing is very weak to nonexistent. And even if Solutreans did make it to America, they made no genetic contribution to the people who currently live there now. Maybe they never even met the Paleo-Indians. However the Solutrean Hypothesis has been completely well-poisoned as it's mainly believed by /pol/brained idiots who probably also believe in multiregional origin and think Neanderthals are actually the remnants of Hyperborea.

The recent-ish deboonking of Clovis First shows that there is still much to be discovered about the peopling of North America. But theories and speculation need to be tempered by facts.

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:17:27 UTC No. 16380158

>>16380058
>Doesn't know that aliens gave them ride across the ocean to help them out.

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 17:46:32 UTC No. 16380319

>>16372701
the solutrean hypothesis is that there were some europeans in american but then they died out

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 20:04:37 UTC No. 16380578

>>16371819
>Sea levels dropped during the ice age, not raised.
explain isostatic rebound in that context

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:26:37 UTC No. 16381198

>>16379513
Wrong

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:45:35 UTC No. 16381226

>>16371165
They didn't. There is plenty of now accepted evidence that humans were in NA well before the Clovis culture. 20+ thousand years ago, maybe even longer

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 02:57:20 UTC No. 16382610

>>16381198
you're grossly misinterpreting that information

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 09:35:21 UTC No. 16382850

>>16372087
You still don't seem to understand that you are the ones who escaped containment, and now nature is just beginning to heal

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 02:36:46 UTC No. 16384100

>>16381226
The archaeological evidence suggests that Whites first arrived in North America roughly 65,000 years ago

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 02:38:48 UTC No. 16384101

>>16384100
>archaeological evidence suggests
citation needed

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 03:59:50 UTC No. 16384169

>>16371165
>what is the kelp highway
they literally walked on kelp to get here

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 14:51:01 UTC No. 16384690

>>16384169
Not sure if bait or retarded

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:09:56 UTC No. 16385281

>>16371819
>Are you stupid?
>By walking. Walking over the ice
Nonsense
Utter nonsense
The ice would break

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:12:55 UTC No. 16385399

>>16380058
>it's much more likely that palaeolithic people sailed for weeks or months across 2000 miles of open ocean
I not a believer of that theory didn't the polynesians do exactly what you're mocking?

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 01:17:18 UTC No. 16385464

>>16371165
We rode your mother to it you fuckin cunt

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:21:16 UTC No. 16385552

>>16371165
Fishin' along the ice coast in kayaks way south

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:33:37 UTC No. 16385569

>>16378982
Asia and Europe are not separate. Especially North-east Europe is not separate from North Asia. If you can characterise them as coming from Europe, then they could've still crossed at the same place.

>>16380058
No one is crossing such open ocean in that time. It requires sophisticated vessels and navigation to even achieve on luck, never mind do reliably (which is much more important, charting a reliable a route). But it is possible to get to North America from Europe pretty easily, I think doable in that time, but that is seemingly not the entry point of humans in North America and it is a big place in its own right. Part of the assumption is probably that Native Americans look Asian.

>Map showing the extent of the Norse world

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:38:05 UTC No. 16385574

>>16371165
Isn't it established that at least some humans settled the Americas from across the Pacific, and earlier than 10,000 years ago?

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:44:37 UTC No. 16385580

>>16385569
See
>Graphical description of the different sailing routes to Greenland, Vinland (Newfoundland), Helluland, (Baffin Island) and Markland (Labrador) travelled by different characters in the Icelandic Sagas, mainly Saga of Eric the Red and Saga of the Greenlanders. Modern English versions of the Norse names.

The sea between islands would've been walkable ice at that time. But even not being, it is easy to cross island by island. You just have to have a reason to since it's not obvious that there's better land further along. The migration of such primitive peoples is interesting in its own right. Migrating across such distances into unknown territory is not something you do on a whim. For Norse and other cultures, there was a strong culture of exploration and seeking trade.

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 18:05:46 UTC No. 16386331

>>16385569
>It requires sophisticated vessels and navigation to even achieve on luck,
How did old world monkeys end up in South America 30 million years ago?
If stone age savages in North America could build seaworthy boats hundreds of years before their first contact with civilization why couldn't stone age savages in Europe tens of thousands of years ago build seaworthy boats before they invented the trappings of civilization?

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 01:18:43 UTC No. 16386970

>>16386331
if you live in a coastal location eating fish all day errrrry day and migratory whales come by to eat your fish twice a year and occasionally die and wash up on the beach reliving you mountains of fresh meat and blubber then you might start to wonder where the whales go to eat fish for the parts of the year they aren't in your region. so why not build a boat and paddle off into the sunrise and see if you can find out where the whales are chillin?