🧵 How badly does a man's sperm quality go down with age?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:06:31 UTC No. 16375954
How true is this? Some anon said there was a /sci/ thread here about this but I can't find it in the archive
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:13:01 UTC No. 16375982
Mutations aren't a proxy for quality. Fertility is. This board is /pol/ tier retarded.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 14:56:05 UTC No. 16377029
>>16375982
One thing is sperm quality, another quality of offspring.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 14:59:54 UTC No. 16377033
>>16375954
I became a father at 29, I'm pretty sad about it
raphael at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:05:57 UTC No. 16377042
>>16375954
genes arent mapped on a ML model scale with features
there are too many confounding variables retard
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 18:35:43 UTC No. 16377363
>>16375982
>Mutations aren't a proxy for quality. Fertility is
Depends on what you mean by quality.
If high relative generational fertility is a sign of quality offspring (which would make sense according to ev. biology). Yet, biology strives, for a given environment, to relative perfection since less fertile variants are selected against and die out. Mutations are more likely to be detrimental to that relative peak of high fertility performance.
>>16377029
>quality of offspring.
Too subjective a nation.
>>16375954
>How true is this?
How true do you want it to be? Most de novo mutations lead to inactivation of a genes. Genetic function can still be taken over by functioning genes inherited from the mother's side which are less likely to succumb to disruptive de novo mutations. However, de novo mutations could potentially lead to problems in grand-children where the recombination of genetic material allows for a person to inherit two male variants (or genes).
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 20:32:13 UTC No. 16379118
>>16375954
>50% more
so basically none still?
Wait, just realized the twittertard literally doesn't know how to read a graph or doesn't know how percentages work
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 15:39:13 UTC No. 16380091
Have you got nonpermachemed exemplars in reading of de nueovo thing? I think that dropping genes is caused by eating poision.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 15:58:34 UTC No. 16380123
>>16375982
Random added mutations are near guaranteed to be dysfunctional
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:03:42 UTC No. 16380134
>>16380123
I suppose there's degree of freedom in that randomness, but as far as I remember, if you print a slight set of few hundreds of mutations of virus, it's going to be lethal, even thou.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:06:59 UTC No. 16380142
>>16380134
Lethality is bad for virus proliferation. Kinda proves my point.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:15:04 UTC No. 16380152
>>16380123
Mutations aren't random though. We know that there are a large number of mutations that can only occur in the presence of other mutations
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:20:23 UTC No. 16380167
>>16380142
Yes, but I said it still going to be lethal, not that another mutations doesn't causes it's proliferation.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:25:01 UTC No. 16380180
>>16380167
Genetic fitness is measured in proliferation in a given environment. ”Lethality” is something you value because you think it fits viruses.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:33:04 UTC No. 16380205
>>16380180
Well, for virus to work, it needs to reproduce, and somehow it happens it consumes a cell to do that.
You may have valid point, but when it comes to proliferation of human spermat, it doesn't necessarily bring quality.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:40:34 UTC No. 16380220
>>16380152
Then why does storm only have the power to control the weather and wolverine has both claws and regeneration?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:41:02 UTC No. 16380222
>>16380205
Yes but we’re talking about genetic fitness and not what you find to be ”quality”.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 17:04:27 UTC No. 16380256
>>16380222
Quality of virus is that it kills.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 17:24:15 UTC No. 16380279
>>16380256
Sure. We’re talking about genetic fitness though.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 17:38:19 UTC No. 16380302
>>16380279
I mainly wanted to state, that proliferation of organism isn't necessarily quality.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 18:51:23 UTC No. 16380463
>>16375954
Dude, the hottest chick's I've ever seen in my life have all been the result of an elderly man's pickled seed
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 19:27:20 UTC No. 16380513
>>16375954
That is a feature, not a bug. Only a woman would be so stupid to believe there is a problem with increased mutations in males. A single successful man can impregnate thousands of females, therefore all other failed mutants are irrelevant.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 19:28:21 UTC No. 16380515
>>16380463
This is all about mutations in the Y chromosome. Females don't have that chromosome.