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Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 13:57:21 GMT No. 16376944
Does this illustration of a photon traveling through space actually make any sense?
Apart from the fact that the field would be 3-dimensional why would it ALTERNATE between having a maximal magnetic field and having a maximal electric field? Shouldn't it have both at the same time?
I found that here:
https://vixra.org/pdf/1904.0147v1.p
Now if anyone could tell me whether this paper is schizo babble or actually trustworthy that would be much appreciated.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 14:17:01 GMT No. 16376961
>>16376944
Wait, so that is the fluctuation that they measure in nm, talking about it's wavelenght?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 14:23:39 GMT No. 16376974
>>16376961
From what I gather this illustration depicts half a wavelength.
No quantity seems to be measured here, I'm not sure why the fields are depicted with a boundary.
Wouldn't they have an infinite range, that gets exponentially weaker with distance?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 14:25:07 GMT No. 16376978
>>16376944
>Independent Researcher
schizo babble
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 14:55:56 GMT No. 16377028
>>16376978
>let me tell you about how the virtual particles are collapsing in pairs to generate EM effects
OP at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:07:51 GMT No. 16377047
>>16376944
Ok no I guess the 2-dimensional representation is actually fine.
There would just be a (near) infinite amount of photons traveling from the center of a disturbance in the EM field at every angle.
It just shows a single photon traveling along the z-axis, just like an EM wave.
Still how could the alternating electric and magnetic fields be explained?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:23:21 GMT No. 16377070
Electromagnetic radiation, which is produced by accelerating electric fields, as well as magnetism, which is produced by moving electric fields, can be totally and completely explained as nothing more than electric fields and length contraction from special relativity.
https://youtu.be/sDlZ-aY9GN4?si=RAD
Quantum is BS. It implies the photon is the particle carrier of electromagnetism, and light is a wave because of muh probability distribution. But for some reason pure electric field or pure magnetic fields which are also supposedly transmitted by photons, don't have muh distribution.
OP at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:24:42 GMT No. 16377074
Wait is it possible that the negative part of the EM wave is represented by another photon in the opposite direction that has its wavelength reversed?
This doesn't seem to be mentioned in the paper but maybe it's implied or just pretty obvious?
>>16377028
I'm a brainlet obviously but since you are talking about pairs is the idea something akin to what I describe above?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:28:06 GMT No. 16377083
>>16377074
>by another photon in the opposite direction that has its wavelength reversed
No
He already quoted Feynman, just read him instead of some guy who puts 5 citations in his ramblings.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:35:10 GMT No. 16377105
>>16377083
Ok so this is at least somewhat close to the ideas of actual physicists like Feynman?
I'll look into it then.
Btw I stumbled across this because I wanted to know more about how polarizing filters work.
The part about the photons was pretty unexpected yet intriguing.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:36:19 GMT No. 16377110
>>16377105
>Ok so this is at least somewhat close to the ideas of actual physicists like Feynman?
Not in the slightest
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:37:38 GMT No. 16377114
>>16377074
It is a blackbox model, so yes, it could be anything that describes the behavior.
With how ungrounded physics is today you could postulate all kinds of BS and beg for funding on your gorillion dollar experiment that you have exclusive control of the results of.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 15:39:16 GMT No. 16377117
>>16377110
Hm ok so this guy doesn't actually understand Feynman's works at all? Got it
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 17:00:21 GMT No. 16377235
>>16376978
I have discarded your opinion.
Cult of Passion at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 17:18:48 GMT No. 16377263
>>16376978
lol
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 17:22:52 GMT No. 16377269
Not such thing as single photons and their fields. It is a wave. photons carry the wave.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sept 2024, 22:13:06 GMT No. 16377639
>>16377074
The photon travels across a single line. (not really because of quantum shit, but the classical approximation is good enough for you)
It doesn't move up and down and left and right, these depictions only represent the direction and force of the fields. The negative field has no magical meaning, it just means the direction is the opposite than it has half a wavelength ago.
The direction of the field has nothing to do with the direction the photon is travelling in, it only determines the vector of the force the photon will exert on other charged particles it encounters
>>16377105
Polarised light has all its photons aligned so that their fields are on the same axis. Polarising filters interact differently with polarised light depending on the angle between the filter's polarity and the light beam's polarity. When their polarity is the same they interact strongly, when their polarity is diagonal they don't interact at all. Negative or positive sign does not matter here, polarisation works on an entire axis
>>16377070
EM fields are the relativiatic mirror of each other, this is unrelated to QM. Quantum effects manifest when looking at the behaviours of individual photons, at which scale they exhibit both wave and particle properties. You are conflating two different things
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sept 2024, 02:19:26 GMT No. 16377932
>>16376944
changing electric fields don't cause magnetic fields
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZn
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sept 2024, 02:57:38 GMT No. 16377959
>>16376944
Because the maths works nice that way and you can do calculations and predict things to high accuracy in experiments and applications. Have you considered actually studying the subject before mouthing off on reddit, I mean 4chan?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sept 2024, 06:09:44 GMT No. 16378096
>>16376944
>why would it
no one knows, yet.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sept 2024, 15:01:51 GMT No. 16378619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1c
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sept 2024, 07:31:40 GMT No. 16379675
>>16376944
If a photon travels at the speed of light it experiences no time, therefore from the photons perspective it is emitted, travels across the universe and is adsorbed instantaneously since not time passes, there is not time for the electric or magnetic fields to change. ?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sept 2024, 07:33:09 GMT No. 16379677
>>16376944
>Vixra
99% chance it's total bullshit.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sept 2024, 07:49:17 GMT No. 16379691
>>16379675
Well the photon coomed
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sept 2024, 05:40:39 GMT No. 16381334
>>16379691
>Well the photon coomed
only from your perspective. The photon never noticed you