🧵 Which alloys bleed metals into food
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:32:32 UTC No. 16381977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG_
Seems that, according to a medical doctor's observation of his patients' results, iron leeches into food from cast iron pans, as does copper from copper ones. This begs the question: does it also happen for stainless steel and carbon steel vessels? You can pretty much copy cast iron skillet or wok cooking on carbon steel, so at least there's a replacement. If not, are we just left with plastislop coatings?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:34:03 UTC No. 16381982
>>16381977
Iron is good for you, moron.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:38:28 UTC No. 16381988
>>16381977
>Gundry
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Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:49:28 UTC No. 16382000
>>16381982
>Iron is good for you,
THIS... free iron boost!
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:52:05 UTC No. 16382003
>>16381977
It depends, stainless steel is more than enough for food, the only problem is for people very sensitive to nickel, but that isn't too common.
Iron leaching isn't bad per se as long as the amount isn't excessive, cooking normal food should be ok. If you're super paranoid use stainless steel or vitroceramic.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:57:52 UTC No. 16382008
>>16382003
stainless steal contains shit like chromium which is questionable at best. Cast iron on the other hand is literally perfect, iron in your diet IS A GOOD THING, cast iron cookware lasts so long your great-grandchildren can still use it, and it's literally impossible to fuck up. You can leave it rusting for years and still bring it back to perfect condition with a wire brush.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:03:16 UTC No. 16382016
>>16382008
it's not a good thing if you're not in some unusual circumstance, you maniac. People have been becoming genetic iron mongers since the Neolithic, due to phytic acid in grains and now they get a shit load of it. Meanwhile, iron is the most relevant oxidant in the human body. Shit is out of whack.
High iron correlates with a lot of problems. The statistic he quoted, where blood donors live much longer, is fucking devastating and the reasoning is probably spot on.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:03:46 UTC No. 16382017
>>16382008
Cr isn't even questionable. 100% of the problem with Cr is about Cr+6 that can't be formed under normal conditions.
Cast iron has a lot of contaminant in it nobody is using food grade iron to make pots.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:07:29 UTC No. 16382019
>>16382017
>nobody is using food grade iron to make pots.
Maybe the single dumbest statement on /sci/
OH Brilliant one, just what ARE they using food grad iron for if NOT for cooking wear?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:14:03 UTC No. 16382022
>doesn't use titanium cookware
I am sorry anon that does indeed suck
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:15:21 UTC No. 16382024
You would die without having copper and iron in your body. So is the point that what comes out of the pan into your food is an overdose?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:17:40 UTC No. 16382031
>>16381977
Once asteroid mining is common, we can all switch to GOLD wear and never worry again about contamination from cooking utensils.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:22:14 UTC No. 16382037
>>16382019
Post a patent/alloy that says "food grade" "USP" or something similar, iron is iron, nobody is using special grades to make cookware or water pipes. Manganese a neurotoxic is a common alloy element because makes refining easier.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:48:15 UTC No. 16382073
>>16381977
Tell me they're testing unseasoned cast iron without telling me they're testing unseasoned cast iron.
What does the polymerized fat do...
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:51:07 UTC No. 16382077
>>16382073
are you saying polymerized fat is a boundary for individual atoms while everything's hot and volatile?
It could be an easy medium, I legit don't know. Do you?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:57:21 UTC No. 16382085
>>16382016
Iron is a good thing you deranged vegan retard.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:58:59 UTC No. 16382087
>>16382022
m8 I'm trying to cook an omelette not bomb a third world nation
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 17:34:21 UTC No. 16382111
But you don't cook on raw iron you season in with a polymer creating a barrier layer?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 17:54:15 UTC No. 16382133
>>16382087
the next best thing would be to use ceramic cookware brother
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 18:12:48 UTC No. 16382159
Just use cast iron pans like an adult.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:00:22 UTC No. 16382196
>>16381977
Cast iron, copper and stainless steal are all better than toxic non-stick frying pans, which literally gives you the kanker.
Raphael at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:04:24 UTC No. 16382197
>>16381977
This doctor is a fraud
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:05:51 UTC No. 16382293
>>16381977
>Dr. Basedface
firing squad
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:14:41 UTC No. 16382301
>>16381977
If I remember correctly, the most commonly used metal that people should be cautious of using whenever possible is aluminium, as it's highly toxic to humans and can cause all sorts of neurological disorders.
I don't remember "iron" ever being something to be concerned about. If anything, it's the opposite.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 22:23:13 UTC No. 16382368
>>16381977
An extra 10 mg of iron isn't going to kill you
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 05:08:20 UTC No. 16382704
how about aluminium cans?
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 05:25:55 UTC No. 16382711
>>16382301
wasn't this just a big meme from the '00s?
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:48:33 UTC No. 16382811
>>16382711
pretty sure it's still neurotoxic, saw a zoomer health nut spazzing out about it last year.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 13:52:37 UTC No. 16383138
>>16382811
when I was two I swallowed a bottle of 1-a-Day iron pills perhaps at least half full but again it was almost 60 years ago I became sick and hid in a closet , vomited then got stuck becasue our house has been relocated and the frame settled and the door was off center. Mom eventually found me but I don;t remember being taken to a Hospital and given charcoal.. is that why I am now a retard when I tested with a 167 Infant IQ?
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:10:51 UTC No. 16383168
>>16381977
>according to a medical doctor
Ok, call me when he has finished his material sciences classes and knows the evaporation temperature for iron
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:41:21 UTC No. 16383216
>>16381982
Metallic iron is toxic, you imbecile moron.
Humans need to eat food containing organic molecules that in turn contain iron, not directly ingest metallic iron you stupid idiot.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:46:32 UTC No. 16383225
>>16382196
While true there is also the fact that human's skulls started to shrink after the bronze age collapse, when humans started massive use of iron tools because tin, necessary for high quality bronze, became absurdly expensive.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:50:17 UTC No. 16383229
>>16382031
Gold is reserved for your Gods and Masters, you will have to keep using toxic trash.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 20:00:42 UTC No. 16383743
>>16383216
You are absolutely, completely wrong. You should be eating three nails a day.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:16:23 UTC No. 16383813
>>16381977
you can pry my cast iron skillets out of my cold dead hands you horrid bug people
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:28:30 UTC No. 16383822
>>16381977
You usually do not cook directly on the iron, rather you have layers of oil between your food and the pan. That is why it is important to preen your pans and to not scrub them unless you plan of redoing the process of adding layers.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 22:37:56 UTC No. 16383876
dosen't the body regulate iron absorption making this whole argument moot?
I understand if it was a newer or more exotic substance like plastics but we evolved in a iron rich enviroment, I don't think we would keel over just because our skillets are made of it. >>16381977
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 03:28:17 UTC No. 16384141
>>16383743
that's overkill, your body can't even absorb three nails a day, two thumbtacks a day is fine for most
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 05:49:21 UTC No. 16384253
>>16383876
>doesn't the body regulate iron absorption making this whole argument moot?
Not really, generally it hoards iron. It regulates within the system, mostly stores it in the liver while not used, but once that maxes out, you get iron overload. This leads to massive inflammation of organs and joints.
Iron is something you never had enough in pre-modern times. Phytic acid in almost every meal deprived you of intake, parasites leeched massive amounts of it from your system, you also bled.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 05:53:04 UTC No. 16384254
>>16383138
Probably not? Iron isn't strictly toxic and you were young at the time, so you prob didn't get lasting damage then and there, I would hope? Aluminum is a neurotoxin.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 16:59:58 UTC No. 16384829
>>16382016
>where blood donors live much longer
drawing blood is a standard treatment for hemachromatosis or however you spell it. They have super high iron levels.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 17:02:38 UTC No. 16384834
>>16382073
>>16382077
its a good question but a well seasoned pan does have a fairly thick and durable waterfast layer which may well keep food from ever touching the metal itself.
one thing is for sure. im never going back to non stick coatings. cast iron seems about the best but good stainless is nice too.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:50:55 UTC No. 16384927
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 21:44:01 UTC No. 16385140
>>16382000
>muh poor people aren't taught statistics
People below a certain threshold can't understand statistics