🧵 Realistically, How Can We Stop This?
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:58:02 UTC No. 16385387
And what are the implications of microplastics going into our brains?
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:21:35 UTC No. 16385410
Masking while handling plastic materials that involves your field of work. Aside from that, you're royally fucked. Unless you want to be an everyday, masking nut.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 01:40:39 UTC No. 16385497
Have there been any proven serious negative effects of having microplastics in the body?
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:41:48 UTC No. 16385578
>>16385497
Nope. It's a conspiracy theory to scare people into wearing masks again.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 03:01:57 UTC No. 16385592
>>16385387
TKD
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 03:22:23 UTC No. 16385609
>>16385578
Masks are by far the largest source of microplastics that get inside people's lungs.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 04:25:29 UTC No. 16385661
>>16385497
>>16385578
Correct me of I'm wrong but isn't it basically imposible to definitively prove or disprove any negative effects of microplastics, since you can't find anyone without them. And even if you could, they'd be like pre-industrial tribal peoples so there'd be too many confounding variables.
Even though I have no proof of this, I'm going to follow my intuition and say they're definitely bad. No fucking way having plastic in your brain is going to do nothing.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 05:48:11 UTC No. 16385737
>>16385387
Eat more microplastics so your body adapts faster
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 10:21:12 UTC No. 16385898
>>16385578
>we will see chuds deliberately eating microplastic particles just to own da joos
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 12:02:56 UTC No. 16385944
>>16385661
You can compare versus historical data of cancer rates and prevalence of other diseases to see if there are increases.
Other than that it's hard to do causal studies like in a clinical trial. It would be much harder to convince industry leaders of potential harm even as they themselves (and their children, and their grandchildren, and so on) are ingesting plastics like everyone else.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:10:30 UTC No. 16385989
>>16385578
> scare people into wearing masks again
the end goal of which is...?
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:16:36 UTC No. 16385991
>>16385989
To get you to take your meds
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:28:53 UTC No. 16385999
>>16385981
>losing 1.5 L of blood a month
there’s no way he’s serious
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:30:40 UTC No. 16386113
>>16385387
There was news recently that a bacteria was found in the oceans that has evolved to eat plastic damaged by UV.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:01:19 UTC No. 16386153
>>16386113
>recently
nigga that "news" is 20 years old and somehow that plastic eating bacteria is still nowhere
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:03:21 UTC No. 16386560
>>16385387
>Realistically, How Can We Stop This?
we simply cant.
if we would stop with the plastic madness tomorrow, we still will suffer for another 1000 years.
>And what are the implications of microplastics going into our brains?
hardly foreseeable but the list of effects we know is more than just worrying.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:25:56 UTC No. 16386604
>>16385387
Equally as important, microplastics are stored in the balls now.
>>16385497
I don't know about proven, but I'd assume that having an abundance of microplastics in your body gives you bitch tits, and makes you more inclined to act a little zesty.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:49:00 UTC No. 16386900
>Worries about chemicals from "microplastics."
>Smokes pot.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:52:49 UTC No. 16386904
>>16385387
It's too late
We won't make it through the filter
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:55:01 UTC No. 16386906
>>16385999
Meh I had to do a couple pints a month for hemochromatosis
I think 4 pints a month was the max they would do
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 14:39:31 UTC No. 16387764
>>16385387
The solution is trivial. Stop buying plastic.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 15:16:32 UTC No. 16387812
>>16387764
I dont want to fight individual responsibility but I hate that while this is posted (at least sometime), nobody ever posts who is actually responsible for such changes.
lets be honest:
the legislator actually has this job, but is incapable due to lobbying. its literally the definition, since its the legislators responsibility that we have a sustainably and stable society.
of course it is a difficult act if you want to solve the problems of our time and it is even clearer that the resulting restrictions are unpleasant.
but that doesnt change the fact of who has to act here, and just because weve been shitting on it for almost 50 years doesnt mean we can leave it alone.
instead, we are told by the profiteers that citizens are responsible, which is a deliberate lie used to justify it.
this is by far the ugliest scam there is.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 18:43:37 UTC No. 16388068
>>16385497
Yes (in animals at least)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pla
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:56:13 UTC No. 16388296
>>16385497
>>16385661
>>16385387
https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa23098
https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph18052
https://doi.org/10.3389/fendo.2023.
https://doi.org/10.1093/toxsci/kfae
https://doi.org/10.1186/s12989-020-
https://doi.org/10.3390/ijms2415123
Here's just a few
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 22:02:22 UTC No. 16388308
>>16388296
thx for sharing.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 22:40:50 UTC No. 16388364
>>16385497
We’re only just beginning to understand the implications and even the early findings are pretty worrying
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 23:49:31 UTC No. 16388423
>>16387764
>stop buying plastic
how am I supposed to eat for 10$ a week then?
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:23:55 UTC No. 16388472
>>16388423
Buy meat and vegetables that don't come wrapped in plastic.
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:27:08 UTC No. 16388474
>>16388472
>meat
>vegetables
>eating on $10 a week
no, 90% of your diet has to be grains.
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 03:50:04 UTC No. 16388750
>>16385387
Dont we have the blood-brain barrier to protect us from this?
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 20:47:09 UTC No. 16390087
>>16388423
>10$ a week
you can't survive off of that
maybe temporarily
but you will get cancer, metabolic syndrome and heart disease
honestly though, how fucking poor are you that you can only afford 1.4 USD for food for a full fucking day?
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 20:47:26 UTC No. 16390089
replace all publicly available plastics with bioplastics by way of hemp and hemp resins.
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 02:52:34 UTC No. 16390801
>>16385497
>Have there been any proven serious negative effects of having microplastics in the body?
yes. since it has increased over time you see it in zoomers and especially alphies.
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:36:48 UTC No. 16390964
>>16388474
Then buy grains sold in paper bags.
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 07:32:35 UTC No. 16391013
>>16385497
Ongoing campaigns of systematic suppression regarding this field of study.
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 07:57:02 UTC No. 16391023
They weren't fed so much goyslop back then.
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 08:00:29 UTC No. 16391024
>>16385999
>jab needle into my forehead
Ok I'm following....
>2-3 cups of blood
No way bro!
?
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 07:46:11 UTC No. 16392559
>>16390089
/thread
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:16:59 UTC No. 16392883
>>16388423
can you share your grocery spreadsheet with me?
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:22:03 UTC No. 16393169
>>16385578
That's some kino cognitive dissonance.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:47:23 UTC No. 16393193
>>16392883
milk 2 gallons: $6
giant bag of cereal: $6
1 sliced bread: $2.75
large peanut butter: $6
dozen eggs: $3
four things of pasta: $4
box of ramen: $3.5
pound of rice: $1
total: $30.25
total calories: 28,892
days lasted: 2 weeks
price per week: $15.125
of these only the pasta doesn't come in cardboard
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:50:23 UTC No. 16393200
>>16393193
and yeah it costs more than I thought because I never actually calculated it before (or maybe I eat less calories than I think)... I guess I have to eat more rice and add beans or something
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:53:05 UTC No. 16393204
>>16393193
i'm telling you right now i will be auditing your post and cross referencing it with the local kroger.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:53:54 UTC No. 16393210
>>16393204
ok but I shop at walmart
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:55:54 UTC No. 16393213
>>16393210
and you don't live in my neighborhood either.
i doubt it will make much of a difference.
truth be told, your total calories is already way too low for my lifestyle.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 18:17:10 UTC No. 16393255
>>16393213
>>16393193
fact check: True
not good enough for me tho.
thanks for sharing.
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Sep 2024 01:10:33 UTC No. 16393904
>>16386904
Fuck
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Sep 2024 02:44:39 UTC No. 16394050
>>16391013
Proof? I see articles about microplastics and PFAS constantly.
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Sep 2024 20:11:41 UTC No. 16395169
>>16387764
How do I stop airborne microplastics?
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Sep 2024 06:02:36 UTC No. 16395832
>>16395169
Stop buying plastics.
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Sep 2024 06:24:12 UTC No. 16395854
>>16385497
Male fertility crisis
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Sep 2024 06:27:31 UTC No. 16395855
>>16388750
the reason why it's news is that it appears that microplastics can cross this barrier
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Sep 2024 06:37:39 UTC No. 16395862
>>16393255
65g prot / day for a man is not optimal. considering protein quality as well it's probably not ideal. "protein" being of course amino acids. and it's possible to meet protein needs but be deficient in specific amino acids.
this is a poverty diet but any strenuous activity will demand more.
accepted literature is 0.8 g/kg /day for maximum protein synthesis rates. we round up and say 1 g/kg /day.
considering the average american height and weight it should be something like 80 - 100 g prot per day.
this diet is horrendously lacking in micronutrients as well. you will need at minimum several doses of multivitamin per day. and to improve protein quality, i say add 1 whey shake per day.
with 99% certainty the world population is deficient in 1 or all 3:
vitamin D
magnesium
potassium
this diet lacking in nuts, legumes, and leafy greens most certainly is not meeting the latter 2.
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Sep 2024 06:40:59 UTC No. 16395867
>>16385661
A ubiquitous neurological toxin has a profound impact at both a personal and societal scale.
Look at lead poisoning in the late Roman empire, alcoholism in Soviet-era states, or opium addiction in 19th century China.
Understanding the pathological mechanism of micro-plastic and endocrine disruptors on human psychology and behavior is paramount to navigating our 21st century Western impasse.
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:44:58 UTC No. 16396000
>hey bro the micro plastics are trying to infest your brain
>just trust me
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Sep 2024 20:41:43 UTC No. 16397910
>>16385387
At least the leached molecules aren't co-incidentally close enough estrogen that it fits receptors and triggers female purity in 5yr old girls and de-masculinization of swamp gaters..
like that last time it happened.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Sep 2024 20:44:16 UTC No. 16397916
mandate pyrolisys for all plastic waste
make plastic packaging illegal
nuke any country where they package single fruits in plastic
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Sep 2024 21:34:47 UTC No. 16397994
>>16397910
>purity
puberty
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Sep 2024 21:52:56 UTC No. 16398020
>>16385387
Nothing will be done because republicans exist and the U.S. is the most influential economy in the world. It’s making headlines that the Biden admin is trying to enforce anti trust laws that were ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. For decades the government hasn’t been enforcing hundred year old teddy roosevelt era laws because rich people didn’t want them too. Republicans will kill any attempt to solve this issue and the U.S. is the biggest polluter. Thank your boomer grandparents for your credit card shrapnel filled balls
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Sep 2024 22:02:55 UTC No. 16398029
>>16385387
You can't.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Sep 2024 23:25:57 UTC No. 16398135
>>16398020
>blames the wrong country
>blames the wrong political party in the wrong country
classic
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Sep 2024 23:32:13 UTC No. 16398144
>>16395854
>jerk off to tranny porn 3 times a day
>muh male fertility crisis is due to microplastic.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:19:50 UTC No. 16398238
>>16385410
It's in the water. If you haven't filtered your water all throughout the last decades, it's already in your brain.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 01:15:22 UTC No. 16398298
>>16398238
reverse osmosis or distilled water is the only way if you want to be anal about it.
even then, consider the water supply to crops and livestock is not filtered and we are talking about unstoppable biological magnification.
at this point, we are at the recognition stage. harm reduction is through mitigation measures. we don't have global reduction strategies. humans seem to be doing a really good job of killing ourselves. who knows, it may create a species of plastic resistant homo ______ in the future.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 02:06:38 UTC No. 16398341
>>16398298
>consider the water supply to crops and livestock
Most people get microplastics from fish because they bioaccumulate like other shit.
Just don't eat fish and you basically don't have to worry about this shit as long as the fish eaters are still breathing.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 03:12:06 UTC No. 16398389
>>16385609
so worth it
https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsou
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 03:59:50 UTC No. 16398414
>>16398341
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/
avoiding fish won't do anything. this shit is literally everywhere. even if you started a homestead in a deeply rural area, microplastics are part of the water cycle. so unless we plan on either phasing out plastics almost entirely, this a legacy that going to last hundreds if not thousands of years.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:05:30 UTC No. 16398418
>>16398414
i just realized this link is email blocked
similar article
https://www.theguardian.com/environ
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:16:28 UTC No. 16398426
>>16398414
>avoiding fish won't do anything
Learn what bioaccumulation is, you fucking idiot. Mercury is everywhere too.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:33:10 UTC No. 16398440
>>16398414
Picrel are the microplastics found on everest. They're not falling from the clouds "as part of the water cycle" you mouthbreathing retard, they are fibres being she's from the gear and clothing of the tens of thousands of everest tourists that "climb" the mountain every year.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:33:53 UTC No. 16398442
>>16398426
shut the fuck up retard. imagine thinking you're smart by bringing up biomag which everybody learns by grade 7. your knowledge is deprecated and you should humble yourself.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs
https://link.springer.com/article/1
>don't eat fish
>still get microplastics
>i wonder why
because the water cycle retard
and since fish are so bad neurologically, why japs have some of the highest IQs considering their prot intake is 90% fish. learn some new research before giving your retard opinion.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:34:54 UTC No. 16398446
>>16398440
https://www.theguardian.com/environ
guess you just don't bother reading 1 post down. love sci. attention span of amoebas.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:43:16 UTC No. 16398456
>>16398418
>To collect airborne microplastics from the cloud water, a 1.0-μm pore size polytetrafluoroethylene hydrophilic membrane filter (H100A047A; Advantec, Co.) was installed in the filter holder of each collector for sampling.
>The polytetrafluoroethylene hydrophilic membrane filter from which airborne microplastics were extracted was placed in a 50-mL glass centrifuge tube using stainless-steel tweezers, sealed with a screw cap, wrapped in aluminum foil, placed in a zipper bag, and transported to the laboratory in a cooler box. After measuring the liquid volume, the collected cloud water was transported to the laboratory in a 100-mL polyethylene bottle.
They didn't do a control sample, ie run ultra pure distilled water through their collection apparatus, so how can we be sure that much of the "airborne microplastics" they detected were not contaminants from their own plastic equipment?
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 05:09:07 UTC No. 16398475
>>16398456
that's a good point. however this finding of microplastic accumulation in extremely remote areas has been replicated numerous times.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ
https://pureportal.strath.ac.uk/en/
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126
> Observed microplastic particle sizes were between 4 and 188 μm and fiber sizes were between 20 μm and ~3 mm, with average widths and depths of 18 and 6 μm, respectively (fig. S2). Approximately 70% of the particles were within the size range for long-range and even global transport of dust (<25 μm)
>Because plastic density (0.65 to 1.8 g cm−3) is lower than that of soil particles (~2.65 g cm−3) (9), microplastics are more transportable. Fibers, in particular, have greater surface area–to–volume ratios, which increase drag forces and reduce settling velocity. This process may be similar to ballooning in spiders, where a combination of electrostatic forces and drag allows spiders attached to silk fibers to travel thousands of kilometers (10).
so we've got plastics being lifted in the the air. clouds nucleate around dust particles. but surely they won't nucleate around microplastics of similar size. yes. this makes sense. a to b. but a=z. but z cannot to b.
i don't even know why this is controversial to state. microplastic go even smaller. to the point where interactions with electrical charges determine dispersal. you look at the dates of the published studies. this all old news. this thread proving once again this board should be merged with /x/ given the average level of intelligence.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 06:13:19 UTC No. 16398524
>>16398475
This study doesn't even state what methods or equipment were used to gather samples, and again no mention of any control procedure to try and rule out contamination.
Since when did skepticism and verification-seeking become /x/? I'm not denying microplastics are a problem, but if they are truly as ubiquitous in our society as much research claims, then it means it's going to be extremely difficult to prevent contamination in studies like this.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 06:44:30 UTC No. 16398544
>>16398442
>don't eat fish
>still get mercury
>i wonder why
Shut up, bitch. I reiterate. Learn what bioaccumulation is.
>and since fish are so bad neurologically, why japs have some of the highest IQs considering their prot intake is 90% fish
Ah yes, Japan, a famously microplastic-free country.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 06:48:06 UTC No. 16398548
>>16398524
https://e360.yale.edu/features/plas
there's not much more to say. you have real accumulation data, and then a model using the data to predict origination points. there's no "contamination" to worry about seeing as it truly is everywhere. the truly sub 10 micron plastic is the stuff we should worry about. that's why it's a problem that can't be resolved within anyone's current lifetime. we can study the endocrinological effect of the plastics but we also need better measuring tools as atmospheric detection fails under this level.
at this point i've linked articles with positive detection
japan
china
himalayas
US
so based on your line of thinking all these scientists have decided to commit willing fraud or poor methodology to gain publishing fame.
you say it can't be proved it through atmospheric dispersal. the language of the papers is very clear and well understood.
>dust thing light and small
>plastic thing lighter and smaller
>plastic thing can't move like dust thing in air
that's the line of your thinking. this a very logical progression to conclude that plastics disperse. this discussion is moot because society will not stop plastic production. there is now no control group of humans that have zero plastic in them. a red blood cell is about 7 micrometers. we have detected nanoplastic at 1 micrometer size in humans. whatever level of clean room you have in mind, will be "contaminated".
>>16398544
dude's biggest word he knows is bioaccumulation
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:29:33 UTC No. 16398661
>>16398548
>dude's biggest word he knows is bioaccumulation
Don't be stupid. The biggest word I know is HOLLYWOOD.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:34:47 UTC No. 16398681
>>16398548
If microplastics are so ubiquitous in human environments, how could we possibly hope to test samples from remote areas without introducing contamination?
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:03:22 UTC No. 16398704
>>16398681
why don't you directly email the any the authors of studies linked? that's what i do when i have questions and they actually answer me.
since you seem to genuinely believe these people are either frauds or incompetent. engage in a discourse with them. most real scientists actually enjoy meeting other nerds. you're wasting your time debating me since you think you can do better. so talk to them and prove to them that they are shit scientists.
the only truly viable way to filter microplastics i can think off would be electrostatic plates located all over a lab. even current lab clean suits are made of plastic. "shed proof" to what standard? to 1 micrometer shed-proof?
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 22:37:30 UTC No. 16399281
>>16395862
>accepted literature is 0.8 g/kg /day for maximum protein synthesis rates
lol read more ya skinny fat
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 23:22:57 UTC No. 16399323
>>16385497
Plastics are inert and dont interact with anything. We even have the reverse hysteria about how plastic will be here forever because its inert a while ago
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 23:43:47 UTC No. 16399338
>>16399323
The problems with plastics are they aren't *completely* inert, many are porous and can therefore easily pick up other toxins in the environment that then leech out in whatever bodies they end up in, and foreign bodies creating structural obstructions and irritants throughout yours is potentially a bad thing period.
I will remind you that asbestos is inert.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 23:52:20 UTC No. 16399343
>>16399323
>Plastics are inert and dont interact with anything.
PFAS
liver damage, thyroid disease, obesity, fertility problems,cancer
>Plasticizers
carcinogenic, toxic for development and reproduction, reduced fertility, genital malformations
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 23:58:41 UTC No. 16399346
>>16399343
>>16399338
Until there is demonstrated study, its all fake news.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 23:59:32 UTC No. 16399347
>>16399346
cool story, /pol/.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 00:09:20 UTC No. 16399352
>>16399281
you only need that much to survive. look at the dude's poverty diet. he's not lifting anything heavier than his feet daily.
>>16399346
you're lazy and stupid. "microplastics cells" google first page
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar
go eat some plastics since you're not stupid enough.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 00:18:16 UTC No. 16399356
>>16399352
Everyone already has microplastics in their body. So its not a matter of "eating" plastics but rather proving there is actual harm that has been done or is doing. There's no real study
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 00:20:43 UTC No. 16399361
>>16399356
you didn't even bother reading the conclusion of the linked study.
causal link between plastics and ADD confirmed on 4chan. or you just ADD all the time.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 01:05:29 UTC No. 16399397
>>16399352
>You only need that much to survive
True, the RDA is 0.8 g/kg for maintenance. But maximum protein synthesis rates implies optimal intake, which is at least twice that for any lifting male. Overall I dont disagree with you, but your choice of words leaves something to be desired imo. Or maybe im just being a stickler
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 02:13:01 UTC No. 16399453
>>16399397
criticism accepted. however, you most probably don't need more than 1.6 g/kg. human biology is complicated. we all react to micro and macro nutrients slightly differently because everybody's biology is different. steroid user most definitely will need more that 1.6g/kg.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 02:50:15 UTC No. 16399488
Don't worry "plastic eating bacteria" that you see in some random headline every few months will save us.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 03:41:51 UTC No. 16399553
>>16385991
Don't tell people to do what you should be doing
>>16385578
You're just spreading the narrative from big corporations that rely on plastics.
I would rather die than be unpaid serf of a trillion dollar industry.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:20:44 UTC No. 16399577
>>16393193
>no veggies
Holy shit nigga how do you even shit?
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 06:53:13 UTC No. 16399643
>>16390089
Yep. This is a great industry to invest in.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 08:55:50 UTC No. 16399685
>>16385387
Has it passed the brain/balls barrier??
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:28:11 UTC No. 16399707
>>16385387
Realistically, we don't need to. Animals will adapt to this new miracle substance.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:31:19 UTC No. 16399712
>>16385387
Realistically, who CARES? It will all be subducted into the mantle in 800 million years.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 14:33:40 UTC No. 16401006
>>16385497
Are there negative side effects to having foreign particles that your cells are constantly attacking, resulting in those cells' increased replication and therefore increased probability of transcription error? Gee, I dunno, let's think about this.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 14:56:29 UTC No. 16401021
>>16385898
>chuds
>joos
meds
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 15:19:16 UTC No. 16402332
>>16385497
It affects pretty much every organ negatively:
Choi, et al.30 fed PS microplastics to mice for 2 weeks and found that inflammatory-response proteins, such as inducible nitric oxide synthase and cyclooxygenase-2, increased significantly in the liver, kidneys, and intestines of mice, and that ROS production and superoxide dismutase activity increased significantly. Lipid-metabolism disturbances and inflammatory reactions caused by microplastic exposure were more severe in diabetic mice than in healthy mice.31 Microplastic neurotoxicity has also been reported in a small number of animal experiments. Shan and colleagues32 exposed PS nanoparticles orally to mice for 7 days, and found that the nanoparticles accumulated in the central nervous system and caused microglia activation and neuron damage. Additional data have shown that exposure to PS microplastics caused cognitive dysfunction in mice,33 along with changes in locomotor function and anticholinesterase activity.34
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 15:31:48 UTC No. 16402354
breed micro organisms that digest microplastics and introduce them to municipal water treatment
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 16:58:46 UTC No. 16402480
>>16385387
Are microplastics the worst health risk in modern society? Definitely feels like it.
You can't escape them, it's in literally everything. They're even in the fucking air you breathe.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 17:18:02 UTC No. 16402500
>>16402480
If you wonder why that was hidden from you, relate it to the amount we don't give a shit about you or the amount of years in your upcoming punishment.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 19:53:21 UTC No. 16404157
!!BUMP!!
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:42:17 UTC No. 16404242
>>16402500
Can you ever stop with your impotent cynicism or are you just here to demoralize others like you've done to yourself?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:21:40 UTC No. 16404286
>>16385944
>historical data of cancer rates
historical data on diseases is a terrible way to go about things because you're assuming they kept good records in the first place. You also have a million other variables to consider. Like what was known and not known to cause cancer at the time (smoking, asbestos, shit like that) and people living longer generally just get cancer and die anyways and people are living longer than ever before.
Right now it's such a new phenomenon we can't say anything for certain but like... it can't be good. Just looking at it as my scientific backing.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 06:21:02 UTC No. 16404804
>>16404286
Dude, there is literally an explosion of cancer among the under-50s right now. It's been growing rapidly just in the last 20 years.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 06:28:35 UTC No. 16404808
I was actually just about to make a post here when I saw this. I've never posted here before, but I want some clarification on a recent study. So recently there was a study that allegedly claimed that an alarming 0.5% of our brains is now plastic. However recently someone pointed out that the methodology of this might be flawed (https://x.com/davisonvideo/status/
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 06:31:05 UTC No. 16404810
>>16402480
I do wonder if it would at least significantly cut down risk if I tried to cut down plastics in my life (packaging, plastic cups, etc)
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 06:34:22 UTC No. 16404814
>>16397916
Based
Barkan at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 06:36:34 UTC No. 16404816
>>16404814
Git gud payslave
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 08:15:45 UTC No. 16404883
>>16404810
donate plasma
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 08:22:34 UTC No. 16404887
>>16385387
>Zoomer testicles are literally filled with lego and trash bag remnants that cannot be removed or destroyed
hehe nothing personnel kid, this is LITERALLY not my problem
ACCELERATE
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 08:30:57 UTC No. 16404895
>>16404883
I saw someone linking this a while ago. Will look into it
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:01:24 UTC No. 16405109
bump
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 21:25:37 UTC No. 16405638
>>16404808
bump. anyone got a response?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:06:39 UTC No. 16406121
bump
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:59:01 UTC No. 16406645
>>16385387
There are a thousand worse things than microplastics and that is why the media focuses on them, let me begin:
-government corruption on both sides of the aisle
-not finding love
-the housing market
-declining health
-declining quality of food for 90% of the population
-feminism and its consequences
-boomers avoiding retirement
-globalization
-decreasing literacy rates
-African population boom
Many more bipartisan issues I could list
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:19:11 UTC No. 16406771
>>16406645
First of all you don't know how much the plastic pollution has contributed to declining health and quality of food.
Second of all, none of those problems have to be permanent. Plastic is virtually permanent. The vast amount of improperly disposed plastic will still be in the soil and water for the next generation, and the next-next generation, and many generations down the line. It's not only a problem now, it's a cumulative problem for our descendants.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:41:27 UTC No. 16406801
>>16406645
>>16406645
>declining health
dude put this down but apparently microplastics don't contribute to this lmao
>globalization
this is the reason why you have the electronics to communicate instantaneously. and that's a problem! globalization is neither good or bad.
your brain is a disorganized wreck. not going to bother going through all your points one by one.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:59:56 UTC No. 16406877
>>16404808
Anyone?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:15:13 UTC No. 16407164
>>16385387
return to monke
become the plastic
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:29:52 UTC No. 16407250
>>16385578
you're very retarded nigger
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:31:53 UTC No. 16407254
>>16385981
donating blood is about the worst thing you could ever do
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:59:46 UTC No. 16407392
>>16407254
why?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:32:33 UTC No. 16407906
Kill the heads and their understudys in vanguard, blackrock and state street
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:39:26 UTC No. 16407913
>>16387764
Plastic is great, only petro plastic is poison. Bioplastics are the way to go, they've had hemp plastics bound with hemp resin since the early 20th century but the wealthy petroleum lobby saw to that.
https://youtu.be/srgE6Tzi3Lg
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:40:27 UTC No. 16407914
>>16388296
Nice actual sources
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:45:22 UTC No. 16407921
>>16394050
Lol show me proof of a conspiracy he says. Would be much of a conspiracy with lots of easily accessible sources would it
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:51:23 UTC No. 16407933
>>16404887
>>Zoomer testicles are literally filled with lego and trash
I don't know why but that's so funny hahaha
T. Fat 33yo boomer
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Oct 2024 06:45:42 UTC No. 16408558
>>16404808
ANYONE?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:31:21 UTC No. 16408906
>>16395867
>Look at lead poisoning in the late Roman empire
More recent example as well
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:52:05 UTC No. 16408994
>>16408906
Noticed the sustained violent crimes after the lead drop off because of animals of color.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Oct 2024 12:05:01 UTC No. 16409043
The bigger question is, can we digest what these bacteria poop out later? And can the bacteria eat skin oils, because that's gonna be some seriously dry skin.
Who Thinks Crude Oil Is Delicious? These Ocean Microbes Do
https://response.restoration.noaa.g
There are species of marine bacteria in several families, including Marinobacter, Oceanospiralles, Pseudomonas, and Alkanivorax, that can eat compounds from petroleum as part of their diet. In fact, there are at least seven species of bacteria that can survive solely on oil.
===
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideon
Bacteria that eat plastic include:
Ideonella sakaiensis: The first bacteria found to use plastic as a food source, discovered in a landfill by Japanese scientists. It breaks down polyethylene terephthalate (PET), a common type of plastic used in water bottles and food packaging.
Comamonas testosteroni: A bacteria found in wastewater that can break down plastic.
Vibrio natriegens: A marine microorganism that can break down PET in saltwater. Researchers genetically modified it to produce enzymes that break down PET by incorporating the DNA of Ideonella sakaiensis into it.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Oct 2024 13:52:27 UTC No. 16409246
>>16385981
They can't afford me, 50k a vial for vaxx-free samples
Anonymous at Sat, 5 Oct 2024 18:03:26 UTC No. 16410858
>>16385387
microantiplastics
when they touch eachother they will annihilate and turn into useful energy. eat as much antiplastic as you can!
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:19:46 UTC No. 16412174
>>16408906
Looks to me like crime causes high lead levels in children, since preschool -> criminal would take at minimum 13 or so years
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:29:15 UTC No. 16412180
>>16406645
nice list of your personal fears, /pol/.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:45:08 UTC No. 16412289
>>16404808
????
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:47:15 UTC No. 16412293
>>16412170
We're getting there
https://amp.theguardian.com/environ
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:34:36 UTC No. 16412358
>>16385387
what is the connection between macroplastics on the finger and micrplastics in brain tissue?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:30:08 UTC No. 16413171
>>16385661
>And even if you could, they'd be like pre-industrial tribal peoples so there'd be too many confounding variables.
Bro even island niggers that have never seen another human being habe micro plastic in them.
That shit is everywhere
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 02:48:13 UTC No. 16413316
>>16413171
Probably much less than someone living in an urban area and consuming plastic products though.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:34:59 UTC No. 16413515
>>16412174
Try looking at the two different time axes again, and the colorcoding
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:40:09 UTC No. 16413517
>>16413515
my point was
>be american schoolchild
>get shot
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:09:51 UTC No. 16413659
>>16399343
>obesity
MICROPLASTICS MADE ME FAT *shoves pie into mouth*
Gone too soon thread at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 19:21:02 UTC No. 16414472
>>16385989
To make it your responsibility instead of the responsibility of corpos probably
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 00:42:50 UTC No. 16414883
>>16395867
So what do i do?
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 02:45:04 UTC No. 16415014
>>16385387
>Realistically, How Can We Stop This?
i believe we are banking on plastic eating bacteria and praying it doesn't spiral out of control and destroy everything
Anonymous at Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:03:34 UTC No. 16417298
>>16385387
ban all plastics production worldwide.
it will never happen, thus we and all the other animals are fucked.
Anonymous at Wed, 9 Oct 2024 14:32:22 UTC No. 16417526
>>16414472
Corpos that don't ultimately serve a consumer shouldn't exist.
Anonymous at Wed, 9 Oct 2024 15:33:03 UTC No. 16417602
>>16385981
The plastics aren’t just freely swimming in your blood they’re in your fat tissue
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 05:32:19 UTC No. 16420587
>>16417602
OH GOD OH GOD THE PLASTICS AREIN SIDE MY TISSUSE RIGHT NOW AND MY BRAIN ARE THEY RESPOINSIBLE FOR MY VIOLENT MOOD SWINGS AND DESIRES TO BUY PRODUCTS MADE WITH TOXIC PRODUCTS TO REPLACE OTHER TOXIC PRODUTS I BOUGHT?!?!?
Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:04:27 UTC No. 16422639
>how do we stop dust
Dust always existed, always will, it can't be stopped. Next question.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 02:17:58 UTC No. 16423988
Not good news
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 22:06:41 UTC No. 16429578
>>16385661
You are wrong. You can add simulated microplastics (polystyrene balls of a known size for instance) to cell cultures and study how their development is affected at different concentrations of microplastics. And this does not get into the amount of studies you could do with an organ bath or some more complicated apparatus. There’s also raising rats in a plastic-free environment and controlling the amount of microplastic in their feed and seeing how their behaviour and development is affected.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 22:14:39 UTC No. 16429602
>>16398238
i live in a developed country with highly advanced water filtration systems. that shit is not getting through. if bacteria can't get through then neither can this
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:10:54 UTC No. 16433449
>>16385387
>Realistically, How Can We Stop This?
Ban plastic production and consumption in the 3rd world.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 21:28:48 UTC No. 16435244
I can't lie to you about your chances but you have my sympathies.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 03:34:15 UTC No. 16435683
>>16404808
>>16408558
>>16412289
there's literally nothing you can do about it, and the sooner you accept that and stop stressing over it the better. Stress is bad for you immune system.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 05:31:13 UTC No. 16435802
I've never quite understood microplastics as a political narrative. Like who are we supposed to be mad at for this? Big Oil? Industry in general?
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 06:26:21 UTC No. 16435848
>>16435802
you're supposed to vote for the greens
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:35:42 UTC No. 16436116
>>16385387
Start donating blood.
You draw out plastic contaminated blood in red cross donation, your body refills with fresh pure blood. Additionally you might save some lives. Win Win.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:09:31 UTC No. 16436499
>>16386113
Evolution (or God) created this bacteria to eat plastic in the environment and maybe a similar bacteria will appear inside of our bodies later on to deal with the problem.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:28:07 UTC No. 16436522
>>16435848
The same greens who back out of enacting change the moment the oil company tells them it would make them very sad?
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:57:56 UTC No. 16436547
>>16386560
>>16388296
>>16388068
This problem will solve itself over time. All the people who get cancer or become infertile before they can reproduce will take their genes to the grave. And after a few generations we will have a population where most are resistant against the effects of microplastics.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:03:23 UTC No. 16436556
>>16385387
Here's how.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 20:09:00 UTC No. 16436883
>>16436547
Lol, our civilization is going to collapse within 50 years.
I'm serious. Download the study, it's open access, then do the math yourself or if you are lazy, use ChatGPT.
Toxicity is rapidly getting worse. There are no special cases exempt from it. We don't experience evolution fast enough for that to be the case.
https://doi.org/10.1093/humupd/dmac
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 20:13:43 UTC No. 16436894
>>16436883
People have been absorbing plastic for over 50 years, nothing will happen. In fact, now that every retard is freaking out about it, I'm sure companies will start moving back to glass or other plastic substitutes.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 20:18:46 UTC No. 16436903
>>16436894
You are the only retard here.
Median sperm concentration will approach zero sperm/mL by the 2060s.
Do you think this trend that's been accelerating for the past 50 years will magically reverse as exposure to harmful chemicals increases?
Not to mention that it's environmental by now.
There is no way to get rid of the poison without crashing the entire world's economy.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 20:20:59 UTC No. 16436905
>>16436894
Face it, we are going extinct, save a tiny minority of ultra-rich and their pets.
They don't care, they want this. They think there's too many plebs that aren't needed anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8M
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 20:35:36 UTC No. 16436913
>>16436903
>Do you think this trend that's been accelerating for the past 50 years will magically reverse as exposure to harmful chemicals increases?
Yes? They just start using fucking glass and suddenly it's all good. It's not like there's some kind of magical toxic momentum that's affecting all of humanity, if they stop using this shit it will stop getting worse, then it will start getting better.
>There is no way to get rid of the poison without crashing the entire world's economy.
If enough people die, then that economy will crash and fix itself.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 21:18:15 UTC No. 16436975
>>16436903
>Median sperm concentration will approach zero sperm/mL by the 2060s.
You sound like Thomas Malthus
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 01:35:08 UTC No. 16437289
>>16436556
interdestin...
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 02:58:52 UTC No. 16437379
>>16436499
till this lil nigga destroys all computer, medical, agriculture, transportation, etc
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:44:43 UTC No. 16437404
>>16402480
Unrelated, by I just got an idea for a horror movie. Combining Tetsuo: The Iron Man with Swallowed and making it about plastic.
https://youtu.be/auVZKcxV7XQ
https://youtu.be/ShJvheZHXdI
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:57:57 UTC No. 16437412
Heres some information: The concentration of microplastics (And Nanoplastics or MNP) in the bloodstream extrapolated from the mouse model, is approximately 1mg/1L of blood volume for about 5mg in the bloodstream of the average person.
Environmental MNP is all human created and derived, and, assuming that all MNP in the environment are 1. disintegrating and 2. hardly decomposed by normal environment effects, their emergence commenced after 1950 and accumulation in the environment is increasing. For example, I assume it takes 50 years for a piece of plastic to disintegrate to MNPs. So I expect we are in an exponential phase of rising exposure and thus rising blood levels. It's known that maybe 10% of all plastic escapes into the environment (a dump truck every second is what I read)
The only environmental features that effect removal (effectively) is burial or sedimentation- otherwise the fraction in the air and across the planet I would presume is somewhat inhibited by bodies of water, and deposition over sedimentary surfaces, however due to constant ground level and air column mixing in cities, it is assumed that it is constantly at higher concentrations and we see this around freeways and traffic, and point sources of plastic (signs, materials, garbage).
I also assume that the increase in blood concentration lags the increase of MNP concentration in normal, well mixed air, and further, it lags the curve of the annual production of plastics in general. So, the mystery is the hidden curve. Bloodstream plastic was zero in 1950, and 5mg today. What is the rate of change? I expect exponential rates of change because of the lag between its production and when it becomes MNPs (aside from MNPs which are just dumped into the environemnt straight away, such as spray paint and glitter).
The main risk is we hit some previously unknown point of intolerance and all basically keel over, except for people who regularly undergo dialysis, like diabetics.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:06:37 UTC No. 16437416
>>16402480
Unrelated, by I just got an idea for a horror movie. Combining Tetsuo: The Iron Man with Swallow and making it about plastic.
https://youtu.be/auVZKcxV7XQ
https://youtu.be/ShJvheZHXdI
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 05:52:34 UTC No. 16439319
>>16437412
it's over for us, isn't it