Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 05:27:51 UTC No. 16418693

>>16418514
You can also open the layer side panel in the upper right corner, there is an icon that says "Show layer side panel".

You can show/hide those colored trees using that panel.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 05:29:21 UTC No. 16418697

>>16418514
nice one but they did the same thing for some worm as well.
nothing ever came out of it.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 05:35:53 UTC No. 16418709

>>16418697
>nothing ever came out of it.
What do you mean?
We have a map.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 05:58:06 UTC No. 16418737

>>16418514
wow, they are really single neurons, that's crazy!

Here (https://flywire.ai/discover/thermo_pathway) it says:
> Here is a 4 neuron pathway from a thermosensory neuron on the R to the DNa01 neuron on left (explains how noxious temp would drive turning away from the source).
and there 4 big trees in the picture.

I didn't know that neurons could branch so much.

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 00:57:29 UTC No. 16420079

>>16418737
Why did they always show neurons as these little line segments when in fact they look like giant trees?
Fucking pop science misinformation.

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 02:24:08 UTC No. 16420193

>>16418514
>I see big trees colored with a single color. Is that a single neuron?
the ones that resemble purkinje cells? yes
>I thought neurons don't branch, they are like single line segments inside a tree.
typically both axons and dendrites branch, but sensory neurons often do not

>>16418697
c. elegans (nematode)
nothing came from it because nematode brains only operate on valence signals
i.e. turn if danger or continue if food
the fly brain - i assume d. melanogaster - is very interesting because of e.g. the mushroom body

>>16418737
look at the mouselight project - some single neurons loop around the entire mouse brain

>>16420079
lol, some neurons (e.g. pyramidal) have multiple points of integration
pop science misinformation is everywhere
mathfags still think point-neuron models are good enough

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 05:03:35 UTC No. 16420553

>>16418514
took them long enough, geez

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:54:00 UTC No. 16420899

https://flywire.ai/discover/gaba_large is interesting
these are inhibitory neurons that look like they project to (inhibit) entire visual areas

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 19:38:37 UTC No. 16421523

>>16418737
A fruit fly should have around 150 000 neurons according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_neurons

Are there that many neurons on OP's image?

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 20:17:16 UTC No. 16421601

>>16421523
no
you can only see a subset because theyre so densely packed

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 20:58:36 UTC No. 16421737

so can we start running simulations? Can I put a virtual fly in a virtual environment and use this brain network to determine what a fly would do in response to different stimuli?

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 21:50:39 UTC No. 16421830

>>16421737
its just the connectome - the parameters for each neuron and synapse are not included

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 22:58:33 UTC No. 16421937

>>16420193
>lol, some neurons (e.g. pyramidal) have multiple points of integration
Are you talking about two neurons having many points of connection with each other?
Seems like there would be a loss of information.
How would a next neuron distinguish between signals that came from different points of connection?

Let's say there are 3 neurons: A, B, C.
A connects to B in many points, and then B connects to C.
There are many points of connection between A and B: we may call them AB1, AB2, AB3, etc.
There is no way for C to distinguish between AB1 and AB2, that information is lost.

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 23:20:18 UTC No. 16421960

>>16421737
what's there to simulate?
>rub front legs together cunningly
'>take off without warning
>fly backwards while bumping into glass

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 23:30:54 UTC No. 16421971

>>16421960
>rub front legs together cunningly
Lol they really do be like that

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 23:37:03 UTC No. 16421985

>>16421960
they also dance and fuck, I believe

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 00:53:18 UTC No. 16422057

>>16421937
>Are you talking about two neurons having many points of connection with each other?
no, two points of integration, e.g.:
apical dendrites integrate inputs separately from basal dendrites
if the apical point of integration exceeds threshold, it modulates the behaviour of the neuron
i forgot how it works but it should be in this book:
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=D61C32E77E2565564193FB90200D005D

Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 02:23:51 UTC No. 16424027

Interesting visualization. Neurons actually do branch extensively, forming complex tree-like structures called dendritic trees. What you're seeing likely represents a single neuron with its many branching dendrites, not an actual tree. Neurons aren't simple line segments, but intricate networks of branches that receive and integrate signals from other neurons.