Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:44:09 UTC No. 16418924

We're special and the first to attain civilization 'round these parts, all thanks to the white man. Specifically, the right wing white men, who have built and maintained the only known civilization worthy to be called as such, in the entire observable universe

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:45:45 UTC No. 16418927

1) intelligent life is very rare
2) it isn't rare but speed of light is quite the bitch
3) it is solvable but usually before they reach that level of tech they go boom
4) they survived and are already here, they just want to observe though
It's one of those.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:51:53 UTC No. 16418932

Intelligent life is rare and our planet is old so we are one of the firsts. Fermi paradox is not a paradox and the Great Filter is gay.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 10:52:40 UTC No. 16418987

The Fermi Paradox is largely based on the assumption that intelligent life automatically starts eating stars, and thus the lack of apocalyptic darkness is considered baffling and ominous.

Once you stop assuming that, nothing is weird. We know fuckall about most of the planets in our own system, let alone the galaxy at large, so if there's intelligent life out there we probably wouldn't have found it yet.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 12:14:00 UTC No. 16419039

>>16418866
We live in a simulation and we are the only intelligent life the simulation needs to accomplish it's computational goals. To render aliens and alien civilizations would tax the simulation too much and render it impossible to work.

>>16418924
>>16418932

ludicrous magical thinking not based in reality
>>16418927
typical cope response except for maybe #4 but i contend Zoo Hypothesis is as wild as Simulation Hypothesis for a solution to Fermi. The other 3 are cope by short sighted scientists.

>>16418987
Low IQ response. Your statement has two presumptions that invalidate your stance. You propose an alien civilization exists, is intelligent, and has had ZERO noticeable impact on colonizing it's area of space. This means they are either stuck on their planet, as our we, or they possess the technology to colonize space but choose not to do so....a nearly unbelievable stance as why would they make the tech just to not use it? Nor could they keep everyone from exploring and taking a bite at limitless resources.

You see all life must grow, spread, gain resources, rinse, repeat. That's how live works, if it didn't it wouldn't survive and persist through out time. You are arguing for an intelligent creature that thrives and survives by REFUSING TO SPREAD AND REFUSING TO GAIN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. That's pure nonsense from the tap. I could go on and on but there is a character limit per post.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 12:16:32 UTC No. 16419041

>>16419039
>as our we,
AS ARE WE
Fuck, sorry I just woke up, back to get more coffee. But seriously you worthless faggots stop parroting bull shit Dr. Physics Nigger tells you off the idiot box and think for yourselves for a change.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:49:47 UTC No. 16419151

Dark matter is just cloaked alien superstructures.

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:42:44 UTC No. 16419318

>>16418866
>le ascended beings
what do you even do when you're ascended? I wouldn't even call that living

Anonymous at Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:53:15 UTC No. 16419340

>>16419039
Anon your combative and confident answers make you seem so smart! Just what i expect from the /science/ board of a reputable nepalese molerat forum. Agreed and liked!

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 06:49:41 UTC No. 16420624

>>16418866
aliens hate human monkeys

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:09:47 UTC No. 16420754

>>16419039
>ludicrous magical thinking not based in reality
Uh, I said we're one of the first, you say we're the only ones, we're not in conflict here.
A virtual reality does not necesarily imply the existence of an upper, "real", layer. That upper layer doesn't need to exist in order for this universe to be virtual.
And even if there's an upper layer, we're still the first ones in this universe.

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:32:21 UTC No. 16420792

>>16418866
fermi paradox is just a fundamental misunderstanding of statistics
>woow number is big that must mean it is certain to happen
no you nigger there is absolutely no reason why your denominator can't be bigger still

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:25:12 UTC No. 16420839

>>16418866
there is none, it's a meme
we dont even know how long it takes for intelligent life to form on average, pointless speculation

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 13:05:46 UTC No. 16420908

>>16418866
most civilisations right now are older than us, so are likely more advanced
we live in a brief window in which we are loud and naive
the dark forest is true, and the solution is to expand near the speed of light
all the aliens are staying silent or grabby

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 13:29:00 UTC No. 16420927

The simplest self replicating molecule would require the spontaneous emergence and correct arrangement of roughly 100 different proteins. Studies have shown that the chances go down an order of magnitude for every protein you add. Let's be super generous and say the chances of life emerging are 10^-50 per year per world with ideal conditions. Every star in the observable universe could have a planet with ideal conditions for a billion years and life still may not emerge. The Fermi paradox has too many variables, most inconsequential against the size of the universe. There's only one that matters.

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 13:56:51 UTC No. 16420962

Where's the paradox exactly? We simply don't know as of yet, and anon here >>16418927 pretty much covered the possible answer.

Are unsolved questions paradoxes now?

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:06:43 UTC No. 16420983

>>16420927
How many lifeless planets must we observe in order to have achieve a 50% confidence that there is no life besides on Earth? You should be able to solve this.

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:12:09 UTC No. 16420992

>>16420927
Emergence of life doesn’t require all proteins or complex molecules to assemble at once. Chemical evolution suggests that simpler molecules could gradually increase in complexity, eventually leading to life. It's possible that early forms of life were much simpler than modern organisms, and over time, evolution fine-tuned life into what we see today.

>10^-50
>correct arrangement of roughly 100 different proteins
complete asspulls

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 02:21:54 UTC No. 16422164

>>16420992
Simplest self replicating molecule is a strand of RNA and in lab conditions each protein gets an order of magnitude less likely. That's not an unreasonable number given what we know. Chemical evolution is reasonable but likely only for a very brief period after cooling but before too much abiotic sequestration, on the order of millennia. It may be that life has an absurdly short window and absurdly low chances beyond that. The probabilities I'm talking about are in ideal conditions, by the way.

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 03:08:26 UTC No. 16422211

>>16420992
>chemical evolution
Complete asspull.

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 03:37:29 UTC No. 16422238

>>16418866
Why would they want to come here? That'd be like driving 1000 miles to go to an Arby's.

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 05:46:14 UTC No. 16422409

>>16418866
Rare Earth.

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 08:52:20 UTC No. 16422534

>>16418924
its so retarded that the mainstream wont admit this obvious fact

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 08:53:31 UTC No. 16422535

>>16419039
youre a fucking imbecile

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:44:33 UTC No. 16422674

>mesopotamia, 10,000 BCE
>Yeah, this agriculture thing is swell but there is something fishy about it
>It allows much larger populations, yet we have found no large tribes
>We had been gathering since forever but only recently started planting
>What are the chances we are the first?

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 15:53:12 UTC No. 16422927

>>16422674
What's wrong with this line of question?

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:09:45 UTC No. 16422949

>>16418866
unironically God

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil_(cosmology)

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:11:43 UTC No. 16423648

>>16418866
There is no "Fermi's Paradox". It's just human idiocy. The univese is full of life, but the distance between the stars is vast and human technology is too primitive to get good visual resolution on distant star systems. That's it. That's the entire explanation.

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:15:16 UTC No. 16423654

>>16423648
>The univese is full of life,
according to your thoughts?

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:19:00 UTC No. 16423659

>>16423654
Fortunately, your ignorant monkey opinion on the subject is irrelevant since your species will be extinct soon.

Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 00:47:41 UTC No. 16423844

There is no step in the evolution of galaxy spanning civilizations, where a USS Enterprise goes engage and flies through empty space. They don't need idiotic dyson spheres and solar panels for their energy, they just split the string or invert black holes or whatever. Also they don't communicate with light which would be way too slow, they conmunicate and travel by wormhole technology.