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Anonymous No. 16420592

Computer science is science (mind blowing I know)
So why can't we have a /cs/ general?

Anonymous No. 16420599

>>16420592
actual honest to god computer science has nothing to do with computers or science.
it's pure math.

most CS programs are really software engineering programs

Anonymous No. 16420603

>>16420599
Yeah I meant stuff such as algorithms

Anonymous No. 16420605

>>16420599
>it's pure math
aka the science of mathematical structures

Anonymous No. 16420609

>>16420605
science uses math to describe things, but math isn't science.

Anonymous No. 16420613

>>16420592
Because you have a whole ass board for that, big boy
>>/G/

Anonymous No. 16420623

>>16420599
math is science if it can be replicated with a physical object

Anonymous No. 16420633

>>16420623
no, that's just science.

Anonymous No. 16420696

>>16420592
you know it'll just be full of SUP GUISE HOW 2 GIT DAH KODER JERB fags. start a thread on a specific topic if you want.

Anonymous No. 16420820

>>16420696
Theorical compsci

Anonymous No. 16420906

>>16420599
>most CS programs are really software engineering programs
Maybe in Burgerstan.

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Anonymous No. 16420936

>>16420592
We tried but there isn't enough demand. We have maybe 2 anons who know something about cryptography and maybe 1 or 2 guys who care about complexity theory. The rest would just be pajeets asking for help with their first semester homework and then the general dies with less than 100 replies.

Anonymous No. 16420950

>>16420623
replicate the E8 group, please

Anonymous No. 16420954

>>16420592
Who has the gif?

Anonymous No. 16420958

>>16420950
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_(mathematics)#Applications

Anonymous No. 16420960

>>16420954
There is a gif version of Gunther?

Anonymous No. 16421201

>>16420592
You know I thought I like CS but I honestly might enjoy calculus and physics over DSA discrete math fagshit.

Its my second year in cs, what do?

Anonymous No. 16421204

>>16420958
I said replicate, retard. Construct one irl.

Anonymous No. 16421206

>>16421204
I just did. It exists in nature.

Anonymous No. 16421209

>>16421206
Where? Point me to it. The shit you linked are unconfirmed, hypothetical models.

Anonymous No. 16421211

>>16421209
In the platonic realm

Anonymous No. 16421213

>>16421211
kek. Are Platonic ideas physical objects then?

Anonymous No. 16421220

>>16421213
Physical objects don't exist

Anonymous No. 16421235

>>16421220
based

Anonymous No. 16421259

I wonder how many people there on the planet who are actual computer scientists doing actual research into computing.

Anonymous No. 16421282

>>16420592
CS has a whole board >>>/mlp/

Anonymous No. 16421297

>>16420592
all cs worth discussing is just math

Anonymous No. 16421645

>>16420960
>gunther
holy sprokes

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Anonymous No. 16421699

>>16420592

Anonymous No. 16421703

>>16421699
it's surprisingly hard to find this gif when you need it, thank you anon

Anonymous No. 16421719

Since political science is also a science, can we have a /pol/ general?

Anonymous No. 16421874

>>16421201
ML and DL is all linear algebra/calc/stats. If your university CS department isn't a retarded code monkey one they should let you take courses on this along with extra math courses.

Anonymous No. 16421921

>>16421259
>mfw the so called """"""""computer"""""""" """""""""""""scientists""""""""""""""""" will do research in anything except computation

Anonymous No. 16421929

>>16421719
Half of the catalog on /sci/ is /pol/.

Anonymous No. 16422004

>>16421874
Machine learning is pretty cool, but still a lack of the natural sciences.

Anonymous No. 16422035

>>16420592
>Computer science is science
this is factually incorrect

computer science is a language study

Anonymous No. 16422062

>>16420592
Its not /sci/ because its not an elite subject. Anyone can learn programming by watching youtube videos and searching documentation. If you want to work on a codebase, ask someone to give you guidance. The barrier to entry is low and the work is not hard.
CS is a bitch subject compared to physics or engineering.

Anonymous No. 16422073

>>16422062
>mfw midwits think they know "computer science" after taking an intro to python class

Anonymous No. 16422078

>>16422073
99% of people who talk about CS don't have a PHD in the subject.
If you just have a BS in computer science, you're a code monkey.

Anonymous No. 16422081

>>16420592
Because your dad molested you when you were a kid. Now we can't have a CS general. Way to go.

Anonymous No. 16422085

>>16420592
The problem is that most CS grads only have a bachelor's. They never bothered to pursue further study and went straight into the workforce. They wouldn't contribute anything meaningful to a CS general thread besides talking endlessly about coding and job hunting.

Anonymous No. 16422107

>>16420936
Learn to teach and there will be more
You can't have a community of secrets

Anonymous No. 16422278

>>16422035
its more if a science than anything else since it can be consistently replicated.

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Anonymous No. 16422292

my entire CS program had exactly one (1) computer science class called Theory of Computation
it was a junior level class and filtered 90% of the people that took it

Anonymous No. 16422299

>>16420950
never heard of that nerd shit.

replicate it yourself.

Anonymous No. 16422311

>>16420950
>choosing group theoretical constructs out of all things as a counter example in this thread
nigga, you ever heard of noether's theorem?
half of modern physics is find the symmetry/group that describes something to get a conservation law

Anonymous No. 16422315

Anyone into PL theory?

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Anonymous No. 16422341

>>16422315
Not really, plus it's kind of useless now that the perfect programming language has been released

Anonymous No. 16422354

>>16422341
this

Anonymous No. 16422358

>>16422341
>Babby’s first type system

Anonymous No. 16422380

>>16422292
>junior level class
hmmm it was higher level where i went to school

Anonymous No. 16422384

>>16422292
>>16422380
Is automata theory fun or nah?
I looked at a couple exams and it looked pretty cool.

Anonymous No. 16422405

>>16420954
This.

Anonymous No. 16422407

>>16422380
it may have been a senior level class, it's been a while.
it was just strange that such a brutal class was left until kiddies had finished most of their "CS" education. felt like a weed out class right before graduation.

>>16422384
it's fascinating. it's a deep mathematical subject that helps elucidate what is even possible with out math (turns out we can access almost nothing in the huge weird world of math), and helps work out when algorithms are tractable or not. learning about different classes of abstract machines and their correspondence to is also useful for designing programs, such as finite state automata. also, it lays the foundation for learning about programming language design and implementation. be warned, it's intellectually challenging.

Anonymous No. 16422416

>>16420623
define science. Science assumes mathematical axioms so how are they the same.

Anonymous No. 16422446

>>16422292
I had 3 classes on theory of computation, one class on formal logic, 3 classes on mathematics. We also had a class on compilers where we applied context free grammars etc. I would say my CS program was mostly theoretical, we had one class on Scheme and Java and then another on C, C++ and x86 assembly and then it was just assumed you knew how to program (we had a more abstract software design class though)

Anonymous No. 16422470

>>16422292
>my entire CS program had exactly one (1) computer science class
I don't think my school even offered an undergrad automata class lmao. My education almost entirely consisted of solving leetcode problems and building websites

Anonymous No. 16422545

>>16422416
whatever the usual definition for science is.

i dont keep up with what it is nowadays.

Anonymous No. 16422566

>>16422311
Show me the E8 charges then. I’m waiting.

Anonymous No. 16422621

>>16422566
Its name is consciousness.

Anonymous No. 16422634

>>16420609
math isn't NATURAL science. It's still science:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branches_of_science