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Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:52:47 UTC No. 16420670
ChatGTP knows, despite it cannot clearly picture that. That measuring device interacts with particles in a way that it influence path of particle. Some retards here still thinks it's "conciusness" affecting physics.
Literally machines knows more about wave function collapse than humans, why are we so degenerate?
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:01:05 UTC No. 16420675
>>16420670
wrong, chatgpt is an npc just like u. consciousness is the basis of everything u do, nd all science
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:20:02 UTC No. 16420695
>>16420675
>I am NPC
>Conciusness is basis of everything I do
You've got to pick one dumbfuck.
Like literally, conciusness is basis of every thing I do, but it doesn't collapse wavefunction. That's delusional spirituality and not quantum mechanics.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:38:12 UTC No. 16420706
>>16420695
u literally dont believe in d soul even tho u can sense it. atheism sciencism is a delusion.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:39:32 UTC No. 16420708
>>16420706
I'm not ultimately against concept of first person experience. But what collapses wave function in doubleslit experiment is measuring device, not conciusness.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:43:12 UTC No. 16420713
>>16420708
noble prize winner dr penrose has proved that consciousness causes d wave collapse
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:56:22 UTC No. 16420717
>>16420713
Link?
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:12:14 UTC No. 16420757
>using chatgpt as a source of knowledge
you've missed the point
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:17:29 UTC No. 16420830
>>16420757
Not souce of knowledge, I knew for long time, I used it just for stating that conciussness collapsing wave function is dumber than a chatbot.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:29:55 UTC No. 16420882
>>16420717
That other guy is retarded, but he's kind-of right.
>conciusness is basis of every thing I do, but it doesn't collapse wavefunction
"Consciousness", for lack of a better word, is the source of everything that exists. My only real qualm with atheism is that: most atheist philosophy claims that consciousness is a derivative of matter, when it is actually the other way around. Double-slit is evidence of this, but there is much more evidence. Look into Project Stargate.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:51:20 UTC No. 16421036
>>16420882
I know, that I only percieve matter, I have the qualia of it, but somehow I think matter is real. Like it's beyond perception. However I believe, we as souls live whitin humans, because brain's activity gives us shelter.
But that's offtopic, if I don't move my hand and won't add physical thing to the path of those beam in double slit, I won't observe anything but interference.
I've tried it, I've seen interference, I should have get beam splitter and add measuring device to only one beam, to see if it affects another, but... I don't even have device that'll measure photons different than camera so I'll only seen interference.
But now after reconsideration, I think, that mind is required for observation, and interference is outcome of wave function collapse. But I'm on the side, that thinks, wave would be like that even without looking.
Conciusness does make an observation, which is called wave function collapse, but it doesn't influence if outcome is wave or particle.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:54:21 UTC No. 16421039
>>16420713
Pretty much the opposite.
>Penrose's idea is a type of objective collapse theory . For these theories, the wavefunction is a physical wave, which experiences wave function collapse as a physical process, with observers not having any special role.
>>16420717
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penro
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:02:12 UTC No. 16421050
>>16421039
I've red greentext, and that's pretty much what I think.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Oct 2024 17:55:07 UTC No. 16421294
>>16420670
Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them