Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:51:05 UTC No. 16429983

Get it from space or some shit idk

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:41:35 UTC No. 16430084

>>16429963
There are NO biospheres in, on, or among the asteroids. There are no indigenous populations to displace, conquer, or enslave. Space is the moral frontier.

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:56:01 UTC No. 16430106

>>16430084
This.
There's more metal or there than we'd know what to do with.

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:17:12 UTC No. 16430142

>>16430084
It's all nice and good until someone oopsies Ceres into a collision course

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:18:01 UTC No. 16430144

>>16429963
It's ok, about 3 times the current production and ignoring the aluminum.
Most copper, gold, silver, iron, etc has been extracted in the last 50 years and almost all of it in the last century

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:22:02 UTC No. 16430151

>>16429963
would we really need that much copper if REBCO tapes are adapted for long distance cabling, or if we are able to find a good superconductor (a la LK-99, but actually real lmao)?

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:31:35 UTC No. 16430163

>one world trade centre
Man, american units are getting out of hand

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:30:21 UTC No. 16430251

you know the drill

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:47:20 UTC No. 16430269

>>16429963
If they were making copper cubes bigger than the one world trade center, you'd think they would make them smoother.

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:35:30 UTC No. 16430385

>>16429963
Considering that's just 51 million tons per year and we produce 22 and doubled our production in the last 20 years it's not only not impossible but plausible. More over there's no "god" that's forcing us to achieve it by that date or it fails, if there's shortages then there's shortages and it will be done by 2051 which is better than if it had finished by 2052.

Every year we use an amount of materials that humanity "has never produced before" and it all just works so the blog seems to be aimed at someone very stupid.

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:51:33 UTC No. 16431903

>>16429963
>paid for by oil companies

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:01:23 UTC No. 16432017

>>16430251
the problem is mining it at a close to equal cost to some third world shithole which is impossible.

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:03:46 UTC No. 16432021

>>16430385
>there's no "god"
materialist retard

Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:28:06 UTC No. 16432053

>>16432021
If you aren't a materialist in the 21st you're a braindead subhuman. There is no evidence for the existence of the immaterial.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:00:14 UTC No. 16432091

>>16432053
brainlet take.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:16:36 UTC No. 16432105

>>16432091
>dude just heckin believe in spirituality without any evidence or remote indication that it is actually real and not bullshit
No.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:59:14 UTC No. 16432145

>>16429963
>Is there even that much copper available on the Earth
Probably, but it will be expensive to mine it all.
>what would be the environmental impact of all that mining?
All mining has impacts, but it can be done well. The common idea of an African kid digging cobalt with their hands or a british kid loading coal into a cart is not representative of most mining operations. Companies must also set up remediation measures for when the mine is done.
Nickel mining in Russial (Norilsk) or Indonesia are exceptionally awful, and those bursted dams with iron mud refuse that killed one of the most important brazilian rivers are bad press, but those are all avoidable.
Copper mining in Chile and Argentina is super chill in comparison. It's done in the middle of the desert and even journos have some difficulty finding some injun to rattle their chains and complain around there because it's mostly uninhabited. Same goes for Australia.
In any case, mining is unavoidable and it's better than burning coal and oil.
Where do you live? What are the complaints about?

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:47:10 UTC No. 16432317

>>16432105
you believe in dark matter without any evidence or remote indication that it is actually real and not bullshit, you believe in evolution without any evidence or remote indication that it is actually real and not bullshit.
>nooo muh confirmation biases totally count as evidence because I'm too low iq to have self awareness

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:08:46 UTC No. 16432440

>>16429963
I handled several kilos of copper today and i feel honored to be part of history.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:12:02 UTC No. 16432444

>>16432017
We could always just enslave the robots to mine copper

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:12:35 UTC No. 16432445

>>16432017
>>16430251
Most copper comes from Chile and the Belgian Congo. President Mobutu Sese Seko used to make everything out of copper, he had copper tables, copper glass frames, copper railing in his house, copper tableware

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:13:02 UTC No. 16432448

>>16432317
>you believe in dark matter without any evidence or remote indication that it is actually real and not bullshit
There is an indication of its existence, though. There is more mass in the universe than can be accounted for by visible matter. Hence the various theories of dark matter.
>you believe in evolution without any evidence or remote indication that it is actually real and not bullshit
kek, there is a ton of evidence for evolution. But creationists are too retarded to comprehend any of it.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:14:37 UTC No. 16432452

>>16429983
/thread

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:30:44 UTC No. 16432477

>>16429963
Nope, we picked all the low hanging fruit already, the existing stuff will require a crapload of energy to extract which requires fossil fuels because fossil fuels are the only real practical energy that works and isn't a larp. It's all kind of one self-reinforcing disaster

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:31:59 UTC No. 16432480

>>16430251
Kek. This doesn't last though, even though it's funny

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:34:09 UTC No. 16432484

So copper is going to get very expensive which means renewable energy will get very expensive
Its said that in the best copper mines the copper concentration is only 10 times higher than in average rocks everywhere else. Miners might have to move 10 times more rock to get the same copper, but the potential global supply would be huge

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:40:00 UTC No. 16432489

>>16430084
It says there we need 1.4 billion tons of copper. That's over 200 pyramids of Gizas flying back and forth on spaceships

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:01:37 UTC No. 16432497

>>16432489
Oh no not great pyramids, how are we going to pull those through space

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:02:32 UTC No. 16432498

>>16432105
oh, sorry, didn't know someone woke up and decided to be reality's BITCH
every thing else you observe, your entire city, your entire community, your entire government, your entire society, your entire occupation, is built around and has succeeded in escaping reality
and as soon as someone mentions omnipotence in a third party, your balls shrivel up into tapioca pearls and you go "nein ve cannot do zis"
fuck you, god being real or not is irrelevant, I'm a savage, whatever I want I have to get WHATEVER I WANT I HAVE TO GET

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:03:46 UTC No. 16432499

>>16432497
This, but unironically

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:41:21 UTC No. 16432689

why the fuck does renewable energy need so much copper, isn't it just like some wind turbines and shit?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:59:06 UTC No. 16432703

>>16430084

This.
Mine the asteroids, and place shipments of processed pure metal into one-time use drop-pods that fall into shallow ocean for quick recovery.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:01:06 UTC No. 16433170

>>16429963
Copper mining is pretty innocous, done right.
>>16430084
Someone will still complain, look at the Navajo and flying anything in space.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:38:52 UTC No. 16433373

>>16430084
We won't even get a good look at a metal-rich asteroid until the Psyche mission reaches one in 2029. Civilization could collapse from resource depletion before we have the infrastructure to mine asteroids.

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:24:01 UTC No. 16433527

>>16429963
Its unnecessary because global warming isn't real

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:13:35 UTC No. 16433836

>>16433373
>We won't even get a good look at a metal-rich asteroid until 2029
Psst. There are these things called "meteorites". Did you know they are SAMPLES of asteroids? Thank me later.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:34:10 UTC No. 16433865

>>16429963
>net zero
need net-zero energy and a lot of it? see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRavif1NuR8

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:16:06 UTC No. 16434715

>>16430106
Here's an idea...

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:43:28 UTC No. 16436130

>>16430142
>2132 AD, Titan Orbital Platform
>First officers Scott Calvin and Juri Nakashoto are finishing up mining preps
>Laquanda Jackson, DEI Officer First Class arrives from an accelerated training program designed to provide inclusivity in STEM careers
>whoopsie

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 12:20:31 UTC No. 16436154

>>16434715
Why not pay the debt using mount Everest?
Its granite, or ought to contain a lot of granite.
Have you seen prices for granite countertops?
Have parts of mount Everest to be issued as property to the owners of that debt. Really you just need parts of the mountain, so a few rocky faces ought to suffice

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:43:14 UTC No. 16436281

>>16430084
And where is copper there?
Co stands for cobalt.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 14:25:54 UTC No. 16436347

>>16434715
That's more iron that the entire world even uses per year. So it would probably take some time to sell all that iron to other countries.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:09:14 UTC No. 16436568

>>16436347
Futures contracts. Futures contracts. Futures contracts. Lock in prices.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:13:20 UTC No. 16436575

>>16436281
1. Just because it's not listed in the example doesn't mean it's not there.
2. All theories of solar system accretion point to Earth not being much different than the cloud of starstuff it came from. Therefore, material abundances will be comparable. Copper on Earth, copper in asteroids. If you want to know /how much/, that's your homework assignment.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:38:45 UTC No. 16436617

>>16436154
>Why not pay the debt using mount Everest?
Moral and ethical considerations. Even if you supplied the math showing it would work, Everest is not the property of the USA to do with as it wills. As the anon in >>16430084 astutely noted, "[Space has] no indigenous populations to displace, conquer, or enslave." As the boomers used to say, "war is not healthy for children and other living things."
>Give Everest to debt owners
Since a major debt owner is China, the Chinese would no doubt be delighted to get their property back as payment on US bonds. So delighted they may send us some canned sunshine to open over our major cities and infrastructure. There's nothing like debt default to piss off people.

Unintelligent, snarky response. Do better.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:45:44 UTC No. 16436628

>>16432489
It's copper. Why put in a box to send it home? Just give it a push. Aimed correctly, it'll get there.

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 02:39:08 UTC No. 16437370

>>16434715
>>16436568
This is so dumb. If you're China you would much rather spend $2T on your own asteroid mining program then buy iron at pre-asteroid mining prices. What would actually happen would be a massive drop in prices and competition in the asteroid mining industry after the US generously created a proof-of-concept for others to use

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 14:41:17 UTC No. 16437978

>>16436617
Give them pikes peak then. Its worth quadrillions when you factor all the iron and gold thats under it, if you dig as far as the center of the earth. Mineral wealth.

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 14:51:44 UTC No. 16437992

>>16436617
China isnt going to get shit but the interest they are owed on the debt, and only as long as they keep buying bonds to fund said interest payments.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 16:49:37 UTC No. 16439957

>>16429963
space mining retard.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:15:44 UTC No. 16440714

Earth based copper mining will always make space copper a losing prospect

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:59:52 UTC No. 16441912

>>16429963
we've barely scratched the surface in terms of copper availability. theres one mine in arizona which could deliver that amount.
copper is mined only fast enough to keep up with demand, if demand increases production will increase

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:55:18 UTC No. 16443282

>>16441912
people who can't do math have difficulty comprehending the scale of these issues

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:58:16 UTC No. 16443284

poorfag cope

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:58:19 UTC No. 16443285

>>16439957
yep. space mining is super cheap. fucking retard. never post on the internet ever again.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:35:18 UTC No. 16443598

>>16443285
>space mining is super cheap.
Money is a social construct

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:02:44 UTC No. 16443628

>>16443598
Go get me some tin from the sky then, Rocket Man.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:50:26 UTC No. 16443877

according to my economic book, yes we can

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:58:42 UTC No. 16443928

>>16443598
>Money is a social construct
Space mining requires more physical resources than can be provided by space mining.
And money is just a management system for physical resources. Yes its a social construct, but so is the concept of management.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:01:00 UTC No. 16443991

>>16429963
Copper is easily replaceable with aluminium. You can use it cables and in electronics.

Aluminium is also extremely common with about 8% of Earth's crust being made from aluminium.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:21:41 UTC No. 16445296

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:05:50 UTC No. 16446801

>>16432053
Peak brainlet

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 01:40:18 UTC No. 16448173

>>16445296
why did the price of copper spike so high between 2008 & 2010?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 03:05:50 UTC No. 16448286

>>16430084
Goddamn, I fucking love you

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 03:08:05 UTC No. 16448289

>>16432489
https://www.earth.com/news/asteroid-named-psyche-is-worth-10000-quadrillion-for-whoever-can-extract-minerals/

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:29:18 UTC No. 16448387

>>16430084
>There are no indigenous populations to displace, conquer, or enslave
What's the point then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg2IooEFTp8

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:30:36 UTC No. 16448389

>>16430084
>There are NO biospheres in, on, or among the asteroids.

*As far as we know.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:32:25 UTC No. 16448392

>>16430084
Oh man, you know what's even better?! There's even MORE of the good stuff under the Earth's crust. We just gotta go down and get it! :D

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:36:21 UTC No. 16448398

>>16430084
>NO biospheres
It would be a grave error to venture out there

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:37:25 UTC No. 16448400

>>16443991
now explain why it's not used for this application.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:38:26 UTC No. 16448402

>>16443598
>confuses money with labor and resources
isn't this supposed to be a less low IQ board?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 14:04:10 UTC No. 16448974

Could anything bad happen if asteroids were lassoed/directed to land on planets like Mars then do the mining on them there?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:55:57 UTC No. 16449563

>>16448974
Yes, almost certainly but they'll blame it on the bugs:

https://youtu.be/Le-uDcNlJO4?t=19

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 22:01:42 UTC No. 16449577

>>16429963
Two words.
superconductor

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 00:08:47 UTC No. 16449756

>>16430084
Build a giant magnet so the meteors will come to earth by themselves. No rockets required.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 00:11:14 UTC No. 16449764

>>16449577
those are 3 words

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 00:13:29 UTC No. 16449767

>>16448974
There's no real reason to do that. Then you have to spend energy hauling the stuff out of the planet's gravity well. If you're going to lasso it anywhere, make it orbit around earth.

>>16448400
There are a lot of pros and cons to aluminum, but the short answer is that they are used for those things, just in specific applications. Overhead power lines, for example.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 00:14:30 UTC No. 16449768

>>16449764
Uhh I'm pretty sure "two words" is two words

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 01:58:32 UTC No. 16449939

>>16449767
>If you're going to lasso it anywhere, make it orbit around earth.
Seems more dangerous. And considering Mars colony dreams. Instead of directing asteroids towards earth.

Remember semi recently that asteroid impact test?

You find an asteroid in question, you shoot a projectile or more into it, and then you have of a swarm of 1,000 or so scooper ships , maybe some unfurl large bags and nets, which surround and collect the broken off debris, you break it into chunks in air and catch and collect the chunks, and then bring it back to Mars to pan it out

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 12:53:36 UTC No. 16450436

>>16429963
>Is it possible to mine 1.4 gigatons of copper in a quarter of a century?
Sure, I know a guy who can help

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 12:56:18 UTC No. 16450438

>>16436154
because it's in china dumbass

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:42:16 UTC No. 16450535

>>16450438
I answered that. Just given them any random peak in the US. Maybe a square mile of underwater silt in the US territorial waters, and the water too and all the minerals underground until they hit the center of the earth. There must be diamonds n' shit

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:52:31 UTC No. 16450561

>>16432477
solar is the cheapest but cant be easily burned on demand like fossil fuel. casey handmers dr seuss contraption is our only hope.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:56:53 UTC No. 16450568

>>16443285
>>16437978
>>16436154
how does nobody understand the blatant sarcasm kek.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 14:14:07 UTC No. 16450607

>>16450568
>blatant sarcasm
unironically tho if we pick one natural landmark to sacrifice idgaf about colorado
GIVE ME YOUR COPPER COLORADO

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 15:28:12 UTC No. 16450752

>>16445296
>IF ONLY IT DOES A 100X SPACE MINING WILL BE REAL !!!1!

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:02:59 UTC No. 16452410

>>16429963
bros I thought we were going to make wire out of carbon nanotubes, what happened?

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 05:50:27 UTC No. 16454492

>>16437370
>If you're China you would much rather spend $2T on your own asteroid mining program then buy iron at pre-asteroid mining prices.
Yes, you would, theoretically. But what is China going to do for iron (or whatever) in the window of time before they've developed their own capability? You admit they won't do asteroid mining until after the US shows them how. They will purchase one or more futures contracts, because they have to hedge their supplies, like everyone else on the globe. Cha-ching!

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 08:50:04 UTC No. 16454589

>>16450607
Colorado is too much, how about a square mile of underwater silt in US territorial waters? China needs the sand

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:37:34 UTC No. 16454663

tfw we mine it but some crackhead steals it to sell for drug money

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 04:39:20 UTC No. 16455607

>>16454492
Didn't China hop a craft off an asteroid?

Imagine 1000 hopper crafts in a line that either break up bits of the asteroid to then have other crafts collect, or begin hypersonic drilling at the moment of impact while storing all the material in a heavy duty inflatable bag out the bag, then hopping off, as the next aims to land.

Or yeah, just crafts that land on all sides of an asteroid, strongly dig in and latch on, drill and store material, hop off. The mosquito technique

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 05:29:21 UTC No. 16456678

>>16455607
>Or yeah, just crafts that land on all sides of an asteroid, strongly dig in and latch on, drill and store material, hop off. The mosquito technique
Possible?
Land back on the moon to sort through the goody bags?

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:52:16 UTC No. 16457746

>>16454663
they'll just sell it to a scrap dealer for far less than what it's worth, might even end up being able to buy it back under the table at bargain prices.