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Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:23:43 UTC No. 16431483
Is physics fundamentally about understanding the physical world, or intrinsically about creating the nicest set of mathematical models which happen to agree with observed phenomena?
🗑️ PAPAB00T at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:26:20 UTC No. 16431495
Physics is about the skeleton, muscle arrangement, and body of the physical.
🗑️ PAPAB00T at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:27:33 UTC No. 16431500
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Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:30:51 UTC No. 16431513
>>16431483
Physics is about making predictions and models of reality. Mathematics are just a tool (among others) for this purpose. This is why hack "theoretical physicists" who use mathematical fiction such as "finite sets" to attempt to describe physical reality always fail at fitting reality to their models.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:35:07 UTC No. 16431520
>>16431513
*infinite sets
shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:55:00 UTC No. 16431553
>>16431483
Physics is marketed as the former but is in reality the latter, as is all of science.
Truly understanding reality means you know, without a shadow of doubt, what reality is actually capable of and what it's not capable of.
Science cannot ever know this; it's merely a methodology that maps out reproducible patterns in reality observed so far. Whether those patterns have persisted, will persist, or whether new patterns will emerge, is a matter that is completely out of science's ability to grasp.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:03:39 UTC No. 16431563
>>16431553
Uh no that's what monkeys do. Real physicists plant both their feet in firm philosophical ground
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:23:38 UTC No. 16431588
>>16431563
>philosophy
Weren't you empiricist faggots on this board shitting on "dono nuffin philosotards" day in and day out?
Now when /x/ comes knocking it's all of a sudden "muh philosophy is solid".
Absolute state of /sci/tards.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:53:45 UTC No. 16431907
>>16431483
both
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:55:33 UTC No. 16431911
>>16431907
except for string theory which doesnt make any predictions even
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:56:14 UTC No. 16431912
>>16431911
And nobody except stringniggers takes it seriously anymore
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:05:09 UTC No. 16431920
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:06:10 UTC No. 16431922
>>16431920
yes as I said that is what monkeys do also I need to watch this video at some point lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:16:22 UTC No. 16431931
>>16431483
Physics is just advanced machine learning, fitting some functions onto some data points. Thats why maths and praxeology have the high ground
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:19:55 UTC No. 16431937
>>16431483
The former would require knowing how to run experiments, which these limp wrists couldn't do to save their lives
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:33:23 UTC No. 16431957
Any understanding of reality is going to be incomplete.
So while you might think you're all about the former you're actually just doing the latter and imagining the bits inbetween to solidify some coherent model.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:53:19 UTC No. 16432325
>>16431483
>which happen to agree with observed phenomena?
they don't do that doe
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:24:18 UTC No. 16432466
>>16431483
The universe is fundamentally incomprehensible
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:26:23 UTC No. 16432468
>>16431483
>, or intrinsically about creating the nicest set of mathematical models which happen to agree with observed phenomena?
This
>>16431483
>Is physics fundamentally about understanding the physical world
Shut up and calculate
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:11:46 UTC No. 16432849
>>16431483
They tend to go hand in hand. Both quantitative and qualitative understandings of the world are important, but ultimately the quantitative tends to be both more useful and experimentally verifiable.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:39:56 UTC No. 16433557
>>16431483
Depends on the context.
The physical world is reality so you can use precise measurements instead of models. Like measuring speed velocity force etc.
Abstractions such as predictions measurements use models, probability distributions, variables, variance in data sets probability theory, statistical theory etc.
These are not based in any reality but the abstract.
Geometry we can use shapes in dimensions to measure or simulate objects in abstract form.
So context is important but to answer your question yes physics Is about precise physical LAWS that are 100%.
For example gravity.... if I drop something it will fall 100% of the time.
Other science are empirical and not falsifiable like the social sciences or most biology.
Biology not to be confused with chemistry which biology has.
Chemistry is based on physical laws.
So context matters
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 05:54:49 UTC No. 16433981
>>16433557
>For example gravity.... if I drop something it will fall 100% of the time.
Until it doesn't.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:22:13 UTC No. 16433991
>>16431483
Depends on definition, lol. But some monkeys thinks theories and models are knowledge, i.e. understanding of world.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:39:25 UTC No. 16433996
>>16433557
Imagine typing all that lowit shit. Go back to fucking your tard sister.