Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:42:01 UTC No. 16433470

>>16433428
Basically no, not really. NASA is the global authority on this and for a generation or two they've insisted the ISS/Shuttle is in space both as a propaganda move and to secure continued funding. Especially with upcoming architectures utilizing LEO refilling, future humans will likely consider LEO the same way ancient seafaring people considered the shore.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:58:39 UTC No. 16433580

>>16433470
>NASA is the global authority on this
American hands typed this post
>Gagarin achieves orbital speeds
>rightfully called the first cosmonaut
>Shepard only does a suborbital flight
>NASA copes by defining an astronaut as someone who went about 50 miles. A totally arbitrary number that has nothing to do with reality. Not even the Karman line (100km).

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:00:28 UTC No. 16433583

>>16433580
*above
btw, by NASA's own definition, several X-15 pilots are classified as astronauts even though they were definitely flying in the atmosphere because the X-15 relied on atmospheric lift.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:05:13 UTC No. 16433588

>>16433583
>the X-15 relied on atmospheric lift
not actually true

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:14:25 UTC No. 16433593

>>16433588
why did it have wings then? And how did it fly horizontally?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:19:51 UTC No. 16433601

>>16433593
same reason the Saturn V had steering fins

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:21:40 UTC No. 16433603

>>16433601
the size of the fins in proportion to Saturn V as a whole was tiny. Compare this to X-15, which definitely looked like a plane and not a rocket.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:42:32 UTC No. 16433626

>>16433603
looks less plane-like than the shuttle

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:48:46 UTC No. 16433639

>>16433626
fun fact: the shuttle was originally proposed with stub wings like these. Then NASA propagated this idea that the shuttle should replace all expendable rocket launches. This meant that they had to enlarge the wings enough so that it could maneuver itself onto a runway from a polar orbit. This had drastically increased its weight (since the wings also functioned as ablative shielding), which contributed to the shuttle being ironically the most uneconomocal spacecraft in history.

Anyways, X-15 was much more limited in both scope and payload. So the wings it had sufficed. What makes it a plane is that it uses aerodynamic lift to counteract its weight, whereas rocket fins just steer the craft.

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:57:10 UTC No. 16433693

>>16433428
its not even halfway to being outside the atmosphere, the atmosphere extends to about 1000 miles altitude

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:29:31 UTC No. 16433730

>>16433428
Do you want to be hit with gamma rays that will vaporize your soul that earth's electromagnetic field protects you from?

Obviously not

Unless you like being vaporized

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:39:56 UTC No. 16433737

>>16433693
:o

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:49:13 UTC No. 16433753

if it's racing around it's spacing around

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:57:11 UTC No. 16433757

>>16433693
>the atmosphere extends to about 1000 miles altitude

but if that were true why cant they just suck in thin air to pressurize the space station like they do for planes at 30,000ft ?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:08:30 UTC No. 16433767

>>16433580
>cites evidence of NASA's control on definitions to counter my point about NASA's control on definitions
Are you retarded?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:04:11 UTC No. 16434066

>>16433767
>Soviets do something successfully
>Americans can't keep up and alter definitions
>the Soviets don't care and don't consider Shepard a cosmonaut to this day
>"NASA controls definitions"
Americans are fascinating creatures. Kind of like ostriches who stick their heads in sand.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 13:25:20 UTC No. 16434338

>>16433428
Radiationally speaking, no.
The rest is the same though, I suggest to not open the airlocks.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:57:33 UTC No. 16435072

>>16434338
i suggest the same in a submarine

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:55:27 UTC No. 16435397

>>16433428
You can be in a boat, in the ocean, but not "at sea"

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:45:44 UTC No. 16436750

>>16433428
Low Earth orbit is in the thermosphere, its not even the top layer of the atmosphere. If you had been paying attention in high school you would have learned this