Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 05:36:26 UTC No. 16435807

It's all bullshit

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 05:40:02 UTC No. 16435812

>>16435799
infinite = arbitrary finite amount

simple as

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 06:11:26 UTC No. 16435835

>>16435807
k
>>16435812
fine answer, in all seriousness.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 06:38:39 UTC No. 16435864

>>16435799
it's deceptive. Many fell for it, like Cantor.
but it doesn't exist in the real world.

it is technically a somewhat religious concept, that creeped into math

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 06:41:26 UTC No. 16435867

>>16435864
>doesn't exist
>in the real world.
but does it exist?

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:15:17 UTC No. 16435902

>>16435799
its literally just symbol shunting it means nothing philosophically

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:17:02 UTC No. 16435904

>>16435902
ok then...

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:26:24 UTC No. 16435909

>>16435799
10 PRINT "U R GAY"
20 GOTO 10

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:28:29 UTC No. 16435911

>>16435904
ALL HAIL 1/0

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:42:44 UTC No. 16435921

>>16435909
UR GAY.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:47:13 UTC No. 16435925

>>16435867
no

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 08:43:56 UTC No. 16435984

>>16435867
I can imagine flying pigs, I can make them exist in my mind. I can even invent rules about how they behave, and these rules can be logically consistent. But they dont exist in reality outside my mind. That is what infinity is.

Likewise can be said about many mathematical concepts. A mathematical line does not exist. A point does not exist. A perfect right angle or even a circle does not exist.
You can go further. Negative numbers do not exist. They are all constructs of the human mind, as real as flying pigs.
But here is the thing. Despite all this they are still very useful. It gets bridges built, makes planes fly, launches space missions, makes computers work, etc. Close enough to make it work.
There are a few people people who think of mathematics sort of like an approximation to reality, much like scientific theories are just the best fit answer based on the current ideas and evidence, and can therefore be subject to change.
But here's the difference. Most scientist with are fully aware of this. Most mathematicians on the other hand are overwhelmingly convinced the current mathematical concepts and systems are immutable and will never change. Challenge the orthodoxy and they will start screaming about their axioms, oblivious to the fact that their axioms are nothing more than what the human mind has constructed.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:05:54 UTC No. 16435994

>>16435984
/thread

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 07:40:53 UTC No. 16437547

>>16435984
>even a circle does not exist.
>You can go further. Negative numbers do not exist. They are all constructs of the human mind
you dont know that, they could exist as concepts prior to the human mind

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 08:18:30 UTC No. 16437566

>>16437547
Source?

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 08:26:31 UTC No. 16437572

>>16437547
Even schizos can think, among other things, of a perfect circle. That doesn't mean it's real

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 10:07:27 UTC No. 16437654

>>16437572
It is real in his mind, you just can't observe it

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:01 UTC No. 16438256

>>16437654
>every fact must have the potential to be observed
What observation told you that?

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:12:19 UTC No. 16438470

It's made up. But what people don't often emphasize is that ALL math is made up, even finite math. But it's alright, we make stuff up to make stuff intelligible to us, there's no other way really. And modern set theory does a fine job at it. The only thing that's a bummer is how most interesting questions are undecidable. I like to work with the axiom V = L personally.

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 23:42:41 UTC No. 16438866

>>16435984
Axioms are short for axiomatic assumptions.
Mathfags always fancy themselves transcending /sci/ into /x/. Unfortunately they are just as empirical as everybody else.

bodhi at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 23:45:15 UTC No. 16438870

>>16435909
you left out "run" pleb nigger

bodhi at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 23:47:56 UTC No. 16438873

>>16435909
for(int x=1;x>0;x++)
{
do thing
}