🧵 Why are they so dishonest about autism?
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:14:58 UTC No. 16436687
Currently 36 children of every 1000 born in California develop autism. In 2013 it was 11. In 2000 it was 6. In 1987 it was 1.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:17:49 UTC No. 16436693
>>16436687
Social scientists have genuinely no clue what the hell they're talking about
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:24:02 UTC No. 16436700
>>16436687
Emotional neglect and infant trauma.
Non-verbal cases may be from genuine developmental disorders, but 90% of "autism" diagnoses are just the result of neglectful neurotic cunts raising unsocialized, neurotic cunts.
See the mouse utopia experiments. Overpopulation is in the eye of the beholder, and social media brings billions of people to the palm of you hands.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:24:02 UTC No. 16436701
>>16436687
>broaden the definition
>more people get diagnosed
>”this is the result of increased awareness!”
Just look at what they pass for autism in women these days. Some dumb bitch who acts like a le shy teehee anxious girl gets told she’s in the same cohort as a gigasperg who spends all day building train models. And then they will call any naysayers sexist as a retort.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:24:25 UTC No. 16436705
>>16436693
Since 2000 the criteria for diagnosis and the 'tests' have not changed either
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:29:17 UTC No. 16436713
>>16436687
In 1987 the doc would just say "your child is retarded, here's an institution you can send him away to so you don't have to deal with it"
Nowadays people actually bother diagnosing specific mental disorders
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:51:08 UTC No. 16436765
>>16436687
(protip: its the dozens of vaccines these kids are getting right from age zero now)
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:07:36 UTC No. 16436805
>>16436701
>I am le quirky autism girl who loves doggos!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:29:23 UTC No. 16436844
>>16436765
Exactly but look what the next paragraph was
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 20:03:19 UTC No. 16436880
>>16436765
Did who have council on eugenics on 2009?? I thought eugenics was pretty much a taboo after the second world war.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:17:30 UTC No. 16437423
>>16436687
have these scientists figured out what causes autism yet?
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:25:56 UTC No. 16437425
>>16436713
>>16436701
It's a mixture of these
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:39:10 UTC No. 16437429
>>16436687
>>16437423
No because the truth is vaccines cause autism and they don't want to be called "anti-vaxers" by the MSM which is 75% funded by big pharma.
It's already been proven, the vaccine-autism link.
Just look at how many vaccines they want to give babies now versus 20 or 50 years ago. There's literally no justification for injecting heavy metals or aborted baby cells or dead animal tissue into someone's body. It's voodoo science, but manufacturers are immune from all liability (which is why they push it so much, it's very lucrative).
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:41:09 UTC No. 16437431
>>16437429
tldr:
>I sure love measles
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:42:48 UTC No. 16437433
>>16437431
Typical dishonest strawman reply to defend the corrupt medical industrial complex and their fraud rackets like the NPC golem you are.
Go sterilize yourself and your kids with your "transition" drugs they give to convicted pedophiles.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:44:43 UTC No. 16437435
>>16437431
How many kids have you given herpes to lately, jew?
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 05:13:51 UTC No. 16437450
>>16437433
>>16437435
Very hinged replies
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 11:46:17 UTC No. 16437732
Autism is causes by microplastics in the womb and from breastfeeding. The bible thumping antivaxxers better start shutting down oil refineries.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 11:54:35 UTC No. 16437740
>>16436687
That's because now it's diagnosed more often, because criteria changed. Also there is more diagnostic work force. Also it's much easier to develop autism if smartphone educate you instead of street.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 12:02:52 UTC No. 16437752
>>16437732
Here's an Asperger stereotype from 1983. Coke still came in a glass bottle when this came out. Lunchboxes were made of metal. Baby bottles were still glass.
https://youtu.be/watch?v=GfJJk7i0NT
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 12:11:29 UTC No. 16437767
>>16437431
Do you like double blind placebo studies? The vaccine companies don't.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 12:24:58 UTC No. 16437785
>>16437752
You forgot the plastics in the air, water, meat, soil, vegetables, medicines, and housing materials.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 12:31:20 UTC No. 16437795
>>16437433
Corrupt, yes, but that doesn't make measles, tetanus, or polio any less real.
Any good racket is backed by a very real threat of violence.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 12:31:38 UTC No. 16437797
>>16437785
Shouldn't the amount of microplastics have some correlation with the frequency of autism?
I don't think the increased frequency of autism has a single cause. I believe there is a material cause. One of the other causes is more diagnosis. It would be interesting to see if made-up bullshit diagnoses like depression (AKA having a dead end job) increased to the same degree as autism.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 12:36:40 UTC No. 16437809
Yea, brain dissease needs psychical cause, it cannot at all be that behaviour changed.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:02:54 UTC No. 16437827
>>16437797
Yes? And in fact it does. There's more plastic and more autism and infertility now.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:11:04 UTC No. 16437839
>>16437429
Even more perverse is the law only makes the pharma company immune if the vaccine is part of the childhood vaccination schedule, which creates an incentive for the manufacturers to do everything possible to get their products onto the childhood vaccination schedule.
That said, there are many other environmental changes in the period of increased autism diagnoses that could be contributing to it.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:12:24 UTC No. 16437842
>>16436687
It's clearly an upbringing issue for the most part.
I'm pretty sure I'm on the spectrum and my autismo flared up when I moved to another country and my social life became nonexistent, it turned me into a fucking robot. Before that I was a normal kid with an endless social battery who made friends easily.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:19:55 UTC No. 16437855
>>16436687
People tried to hand wave the facts away but here goes .... AGAIN!
Look at autism rates in globohomo countries. USA/JAPAN/EU vs non globohomo countries like China, Russia, and Africa. Now look at the European genetic stock control group we have in the USA, THE AMISH!
Amish are the key. Their percentages of autism are a shadow of their English counterparts. Same basic genetic stock as American white's but nearly no autism. Specific studies on Amish and autism have been done to prove this and account for all possible reasons for the difference like under reporting in the Amish community. Autism just does not happen to the Amish like the rest of America. Then when you factor in non Western countries mirroring the Amish's low level of autism it's plainly clear what's happening.
Autism is an environmental contamination either from a single source like vaccines or from a complex combination of all the chemicals, microplastics, AND vaccines we are pumping into our bodies.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:30:26 UTC No. 16437864
>>16437855
I'm trying to find the studies but both Google and Duck Duck Go spam propaganda when you search it. It's being locked down. Legit one of the articles says this...
>Amish people do get vaccinated - Full Fact
I live around 3000+ Amish and trust me they absolutely do not get vaccinated. Honestly 99% of what you read online about Amish is a lie. Anyone who lives near them knows this. Amish do expose themselves to some modern stuff like beer and full sugar soda but I've never seen Amish buy diet soda or any soda, or beer, not in aluminum cans. No plastics. No vaccines either.
If you look hard enough you see real studies with real results so damning you know why they have to hide it.
>WASHINGTON, June 8 (UPI) -- The autism rate for U.S. children is 1 in 166, according to the federal government. The autism rate for the Amish around Middlefield, Ohio, is 1 in 15,000, according to Dr. Heng Wang.
>He means that literally: Of 15,000 Amish who live near Middlefield, Wang is aware of just one who has autism. If that figure is anywhere near correct, the autism rate in that community is astonishingly low.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/20
>-- A Lancaster doctor who has treated thousands of Amish for nearly a quarter-century said he had never seen any autism. "We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none -- and that's just the way it is," that doctor said last month.
>-- An Amish-Mennonite mother with an adopted autistic child said she was aware of only two other children with the disorder. "It is so much more rare among our people," she said.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:33:03 UTC No. 16437867
>>16436805
there is nothing autistic about this girl.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:37:56 UTC No. 16437876
>>16437864
and of course the last bit here really sends the point home. Funny how now "scientists" on google claim autism, and cancer, rates among Amish are the same as the English population. KEK
>Ohio, with the nation's largest Amish population, appears no different. Asked if he thinks the autism rate among the Amish is low, Wang said: "I would agree with that. In this country, the Amish have less autism. Why? That's a very interesting topic. I think people need to look into it to do more research. This is something we could learn from."
>Wang said the Amish boy's autism is of "unknown etiology," meaning the cause is undetermined. In response to a question, he checked the medical chart and said the boy had received routine childhood immunizations.
>the boy had received routine childhood immunizations.
So a very recent study CHANGED what criteria you need to be autistic and STILL struggled to put Amish children in the autism basket saying many borderline failed one autism screening but passed a different one. Even still the posted rates of autism are HALF the English population!!! The scientists assure us they will again adjust the goal posts to make the data match their conclusions!!
>Preliminary data have identified the presence of ASD in the Amish community at a rate of approximately 1 in 271 children using standard ASD screening and diagnostic tools although some modifications may be in order.
>using standard ASD screening and diagnostic tools although some modifications may be in order.
THE TOOLS DIDN'T YIELD THE PRECONCEIVED CONCLUSION OF THE DOCTORS SO THEY MUST MODIFY THE TOOLS!! kek
https://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2010
Not to mention one doctor in 2005 saw NO AUTISM cases in the Ohio Amish population, now 15 years later the rate has jumped to 1 in 300?? X to doubt.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:13:57 UTC No. 16439600
>>16437864
Aluminium cans are lined with plastic on the inside, retard
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:21:36 UTC No. 16439607
>>16436687
I don't know but I'm pretty sure it's to con anti-vax retards out of their money and into doing the bidding of the Russian government to weaken the US population against biological warfare, which Russia specializes in. But useful idiots keep on lying about vaccines causing autism. I agree, it's frustrating!
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:26:20 UTC No. 16439608
>>16437752
>Coke was AVAILABLE in a glass bottle
But was well phased out by the 80s.
>Lunch boxes, baby bottles...
were also plastic in most households.
The plastic revolution happened on the 60s-70s, bud.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:31:32 UTC No. 16439614
>>16437429
Go home, Andrew Wakefield. You're drunk and your study was absolutely fake garbage.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:34:52 UTC No. 16439617
>>16437855
Amish people get vaccines, dumbass.
https://ssri.psu.edu/news/amish-fou
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:20:44 UTC No. 16439669
>>16436687
The internet is making people socially retarded.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:40:28 UTC No. 16439693
>>16436687
Parents decide to have children at a later age.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:53:54 UTC No. 16439709
>>16436805
Holy shit this is like if three different strains of cancer and AIDS buttsexed each other until they bred a huge mega humongous super cancer.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:49:44 UTC No. 16439857
>>16436705
>Since 2000 the criteria for diagnosis and the 'tests' have not changed either
The criteria have changed in 2013 with the release of the DSM-5. The tests are not reliable, have relatively poor interrater variability and the way they're posed allows single clinicians to frame even the slightest social issue as a sign of autism.
>>16437429
>It's already been proven, the vaccine-autism link.
Please, provide me with the source.
>Just look at how many vaccines they want to give babies now versus 20 or 50 years ago.
That doesn't really prove your point above though.
>>16437433
>Go sterilize yourself and your kids with your "transition" drugs they give to convicted pedophiles.
Not in any way an argument that would strengthen your point above. If all your comments are just emotionally-laden whining, you may as well say that you're autistic and have a problem with it.
>>16437797
>One of the other causes is more diagnosis
I fail to see your point here. If there is no clear material base to autism, then there is nothing but the behavior and the diagnosis.
>It would be interesting to see if made-up bullshit diagnoses like depression (AKA having a dead end job) increased to the same degree as autism.
I can't tell about total prevalence but numerous recent studies imply that up to one out of four women in their '40s are on SSRIs.
>>16437839
>That said, there are many other environmental changes in the period of increased autism diagnoses that could be contributing to it.
Such as...? And what does it mean for something to possibly could be contributing to it?
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:53:08 UTC No. 16439865
>>16437429
Retard
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:54:56 UTC No. 16439866
>>16439860
Just blame the global warming, there's correlation.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:56:07 UTC No. 16439868
>>16437855
>Specific studies on Amish and autism have been done to prove this and account for all possible reasons for the difference like under reporting in the Amish community.
Sources?
>Then when you factor in non Western countries mirroring the Amish's low level of autism it's plainly clear what's happening.
Non-Western countries often report similar prevalence rates of autism.
>Autism is an environmental contamination either from a single source like vaccines or from a complex combination of all the chemicals, microplastics, AND vaccines we are pumping into our bodies.
It's either that or the other thing. Again, it's clear from the way you just framed that phrase that you're projecting your own autism issue onto the discussion here.
>https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2
Article is two decades old, linked to "Age of autism", a california-based antivax group that maintains links to RFK Jr. Not a valid or reliable source.
>>16437876
The scientists assure us they will again adjust the goal posts to make the data match their conclusions!!
Which scientists?
>>Preliminary data have identified the presence of ASD in the Amish community at a rate of approximately 1 in 271 children using standard ASD screening and diagnostic tools although some modifications may be in order.
That's much higher than the 1 in 15,000 you just endorsed before, isn't it?
>Not to mention one doctor in 2005 saw NO AUTISM cases in the Ohio Amish population, now 15 years later the rate has jumped to 1 in 300?? X to doubt.
One doctor... yes. Again, you base your entire claim on a single 20 year old article written by an antivax group.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:56:31 UTC No. 16439869
Autism, disease, isn't real.
Autism, symptoms, are real,
but it means nothing,
other than you're socially retarded.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 16:02:13 UTC No. 16439880
>>16437855
>Amish are the key. Their percentages of autism are a shadow of their English counterparts. Same basic genetic stock as American white's but nearly no autism.
Anon. The Amish are very inbred unfortunately. A large portion of them have genuine mental disabilities.
https://youtu.be/Tc6IT5L3ZSk?si=qMv
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 16:04:12 UTC No. 16439884
>>16439607
>I don't know but I'm pretty sure it's to con anti-vax retards out of their money and into doing the bidding of the Russian government to weaken the US population against biological warfare, which Russia specializes in.
Looking back on it, I feel like the vaccine-autism issue, which was aggressively pushed by the mass media from 2005-2010, coincided with the exact moment when politicians started to press for compulsory vaccinations in the public school system (that was around 2000).
The antivax movement, in essence, any group that rejected vaccines, is way older than that. It most definitely didn't start with Andrew Wakefield, who drew much of his inspiration from an already existing antivax movement (to the point of faking data to win fraudulent vaccine damage claims). But since religious exemptions (a large number of Americans are religious) and arguments of personal freedom were difficult to disprove, public sympathy had to be broken by painting antivaxxers as religious fundamentalists who endorsed schizo-tier theories and hated their own children. At that point, the antivax movement was coopted by third parties and rendered useful for political purposes. This all would lead to the huge Covid vaccine spectacle with Trumpers promoting Ivermectin and the question of physical integrity and liberty being completely ignored in favor for some make-believe stories about nanite robots in covid vaccines.
>>16439693
Can only realistically explain for at most 8 % of the increase.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 16:07:32 UTC No. 16439887
>>16439862
There is one question that is never asked but that I consider interesting from a philosophical point of view.
If some substance was found to cause "autism", assuming here that autism is real, would we ban such a substance for the child's own sake (as in his happiness) or because it would statistically depress the child's capability to return profits? If it's the former, how exactly would they deduce a causal link between autism and a lack of happiness. If it's the latter, then what does this say about your country?
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:55:17 UTC No. 16440054
>>16437867
I'm always wary of making diagnoses of people through videos because you don't know how edited they are or what things they're repressing while on camera but there does seem to be a rapidly growing trend of young women similar to her that have nothing unique to offer to promote themselves other than "Hey look, I'm a girl with autism. It's not just for boys!"
Looking at her other videos, they don't seem to offer much value for anyone who is autistic and looking for ways to cope (she has some video that purport to be that but they're generally worthless) nor very useful in helping others understand autistic people beyond what appears to be reading stuff off of webpages.
Given the wider definition of autism in DSM-5, especially now that it includes what used to be Asperger's, perhaps she is a mild Level I Autistic person, but my money is on her simply having identified an angle for generating content and views.
There are women who have good content both about and for people with autism. Some of them are autistic themselves. There's plenty who just prattle on about their lives like normies would too. A few with good quality content. Unfortunately there's also a growing number who are aggressively "autism is a boy's club and that must change".
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 18:05:04 UTC No. 16440069
>>16436687
Because they don't know what causes it.
And they tell you THEY DONT KNOW.
seriously why do schizo's insist everything is some deep conspiracy.
"They must be hiding the truth somewhere no way they don't know"
-Un-medicated schizo.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 18:07:46 UTC No. 16440072
>>16439862
Wired had an article long ago, maybe twenty years ago, that connected the chemicals used by the microprocessor manufacturing industry with the much higher than average rate of autistic children in the area around Silicon Valley. IIRC, they controlled for factors like autistic parents (something probably more common in SV) and still found it elevated in that area in children. Haven't heard much else about that possibility since then.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:06:25 UTC No. 16440317
>>16440069
>Because they don't know what causes it.
>And they tell you THEY DONT KNOW.
The problem is that in a great deal of cases we can actually tell what causes it. Yet, they're still not communicating that.
There is no magic or any other kind of hidden force at work when a child develops normally for two or three years and then suddenly gets epileptic fits and regresses in abilities.
There are things like autoimmune disorders, encephalomeningitis, viral infections, abnormal fetal development including abnormal neuronal development due to prescription drug intoxication etc. that all lead to autistic behavior. Hardly surprising, being socially incapacitated and exhibiting repetitive behavior are things commonly found in brain damage cases as well. It's why the idea, taken for granted by most here, that both a severe case of non-verbal autism where the kid is developmentally retarded and slight Asperger's are the same thing and hence must be caused by the same thing is objectively stupid.
Most people simply can't put their suspicions well into words. But it's there. The panic around increased autism rates isn't that unmotivated either. There are historic precedents...
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:12:20 UTC No. 16440329
>>16440072
>Substance #15893 that might cause a slight increase in autism rates by 0.05 %
>Subsequent studies cannot affirm or reproduce the association.
What a pointless witchhunt. Tell me, please, which lab test, which brain scan, they used to diagnose the absolutely real autism. I'm sure they did not rely on diagnostic questionaires with vague and open diagnostic criteria. I'm sure there are no financial incentives for autism diagnostic units to diagnose more rather than fewer kids.
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:44:01 UTC No. 16441420
autist here. my family thinks a vaccine reaction caused my autism. AMA
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:42:36 UTC No. 16441739
>>16441420
That's an easy way to shift the blame. Real causes of autism are poor genetics, mother's age was greater than 30 when she gave birth, mother drinking alcohol drugs etc during pregnanc. putting the blame on vaccine is a convenient excuse for the parents fuck off
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:14:12 UTC No. 16441842
>>16441739
My mother had me when she was 19 doe.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 03:15:56 UTC No. 16442094
>>16437855
>One study published in 2008 by the Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders examined the prevalence of autism in the Amish community of Pennsylvania. The study found that the prevalence of ASD in the Amish population was comparable to the prevalence reported in other populations, dispelling the myth of significantly lower rates.
> Another study, published in 2011 by the Journal of Child Neurology, investigated the prevalence of autism in the Amish and non-Amish populations in Ohio. The study concluded that there was no significant difference in autism rates between the two groups, further refuting the notion of lower rates within the Amish community.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 03:28:37 UTC No. 16442106
>mothers give birth at an older and older age
>blame big pharma
>blame the food industry
>blame the government
>blame water utilities companies
>blame airlines and plane manufacturers
blame anything, but not the real culprit = w*men and their dumbfuck decision to delay childbirth
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:53:28 UTC No. 16442834
>>16442094
In defense. The problem with psychiatric diagnostics is, that epidemiological studies based on them are largely circular since there is no independent variable that you can actually compare your results to. It's why claims such as "autism just gets more diagnosed nowadays" vs. "autism is more common" can never be rigorously proven or disproven one or the other way. The best way would be to rely on external markers, overt behavior that is known to be neurologically conditioned, and then establish clear guidelines in regards to the classification of certain psychological variables. For example, a threshold in regards to how much time has been spent holding eye contact with some other person.
However, with no such guidelines, you can easily achieve any prevalence rate you want by simply ever so slightly change the underlying criteria used to ascertain the presence of an "autism disorder".
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:54:29 UTC No. 16442837
>>16442106
Autism barely correlates with maternal age. The assocation is massively blown out of proportion by people who either blame their mother for their mental defects or people trying to fuck teenagers.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:10:47 UTC No. 16443396
>>16437752
>Here's an Asperger stereotype from 1983.
That dude is fascinating - it's no act and he's a pretty far out there character IRL, look him up and his...adventures.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:29:43 UTC No. 16443418
People are having children later than ever
endocrine disruptors are everywhere
>awareness or expanded diagnostic
That too, but for example, non verbal autism has also increased, not nearly as much as "regular" autism, but something like x3 in 30 years (im phoneposting, to lazy to check) and I doubt that can diagnosis of non verbal autism was expanded that much or that there's more awareness of it for obvious reasons