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🗑️ 🧵 My TA is very unhelpful and it is harming the research. Please give me advice

Anonymous No. 16437395

I'm not a people's person. I am currently training a lady that happens to be a few years older than me and who seemed nice and interested. I don't like how technologically unsavy the zoomers tend to be (barely know how to crack software or use torrents and never even remember to turn off laptops due to growing up with tablets), so I thought having a fellow millenial would be a good idea for my lab.

It's been hard.

She barely puts in any work. Her assignments are lagging, and my patience is running out. I put a lot of effort into training these people, but she is the first person to do not put in the work back. My approach to the issue has been either do her experiments myself (because she'll fuck it up if she tries to do it because she isn't practicing), or giving it to the other student (who is a zoomer but she gets the job done, too afraid and anxious of making me upset). I know this TA isn't busy or facing any serious issues because she loves talking and spills the beans on everything that goes on in her life.

I don't want a 'toxic' environment, but I desperately need to have this research done. Should I just take her project away and give it to someone who respects me more?

Anonymous No. 16437524

Realistically if you “take it away” that may cause
More headaches than it’s worth because she may be counting on it as a resume builder or whatever, but you can say “hey I need this done so I am assigning someone to help you finish” and then that person takes over without the hassle of taking the woman off the project. The biggest problem with taking the woman off the project now is that she’s “already sunk time into it” so people will pity her if you take her off. Trust me I know why you mean I have been in your shoes, you’re lucky this is the first time it’s happened to you, I work in a shithole where it’s common. Anyway, this will solve your problem I guarantee

Anonymous No. 16437535

>>16437395
>barely know how to crack software or use torrents
This has nothing to do with tech literacy and a lot to do with being a poorfag, people who can afford to buy things generally don't bother dealing with torrents
(Zoomers are tech-illiterate from growing up with mobile devices instead of PCs though)

Anonymous No. 16437536

lol no

Anonymous No. 16437548

>>16437395
You must be Anglo/American. I believe there is a cultural element to it. You people try to be too polite and end up being too indirect as a result. Here’s what I would do. Sit her down and bluntly tell her that she hasn’t done shit and if this continues, she’ll get booted the fuck out.
>My approach to the issue has been either do her experiments myself or giving it to the other student
You’re like a parent who, instead of making their child do the homework, do it for them or make their sibling do it. Extreme soi behavior that is going to produce nothing but a spoiled brat.
>I don't want a 'toxic' environment
Nothing toxic about discipline. Nothing toxic about bluntness.
t. Russian

Anonymous No. 16437647

Fire her.

Anonymous No. 16438093

>>16437548
based russian perspective

Anonymous No. 16438224

>>16437548
Being this blunt in US can literally lead to a lawsuit OP can lose. It’s insane I know but that’s just how the system is.

Anonymous No. 16438229

>>16438224
What law could I be possibly braking when telling my employees to do their fucking job?

Anonymous No. 16438240

>>16438229
Anti-discrimination laws. They will ask you questions like “do you regularly give feedback to your employees, or just to this woman?” “What criteria did you use to judge?” “Can you prove you have judged others by the same criteria?” “Can you prove these criteria are necessary to the job and not arbitrary?” “Have you assured these criteria will not create undue disparate impact for minorities?” If you don’t have airtight documented answers to these then you run huge risks of being discriminatory against the woman. That’s why process and documentation makes corporations so inefficient and why US firms don’t fire as easily as people might assume. Also why they fire in huge waves when they do so they can prove it was for efficiency reasons and not singling someone out

Anonymous No. 16438243

>>16438224
Anything in the US can lead to a lawsuit. Just don't be retarded about it.

Anonymous No. 16438244

>>16438243
Read >>16438240

Anonymous No. 16438245

>>16438240
Me telling her to do her jobs has no relation to her having a vagina. Nothing prevents me from saying the same to a dude with a penis. So it’s not discriminatory by definition.

Anonymous No. 16438253

>>16438245
You don’t have to convince me. It’s a super left wing judge with an axe to grind that you’d be up against.

Anonymous No. 16438257

>>16438253
Mark my words, your country will end up like the USSR with this attitude. Not even trying to be an anti-USA vatnik. But these parasites and the law defending them was the reason the Soviet Union went to shit under Brezhnev.

Anonymous No. 16438285

>>16438257
Thanks it certainly seems that way in the inside but there’s basically no way to stop it. Everyone basically gets what’s happening but if you speak out against it you lose your job. No one wants to be seen as the one who is skeptical of DEI so in institutions like my university a lot of meetings end up as a competition to see who can cheer the virtues of DEI the loudest.
Becoming the USSR would be a better outcome than where we’re going because at least *in theory* the USSR was for the working man and against the capitalist. The USA’s institutions now have a different mission: white men are the enemy, and everything must be done to make everyone else “comfortable”

Anonymous No. 16438522

>>16437548
You are correct in your assessment. I just genuinely need this research done, it is that simple. However, I don't want a lawsuit coming my way or having any issues with administration because I was hired recently. If I get into trouble, I might no be able to conclude any of projects at all.

>>16437535
You probably never managed a lab and had to handle a budget. We can't buy everything we use.

>>16437524
Well, I may have to really assign someone else to do all the work for her.

>>16438240
>>16438224
This is what I fear the most. The bias is always against the figure of authority here.

I just wish I could replace all these people with machines. It is too much of a hassle to deal with human beings. All she has to do is literally

>>16438257
>>16438245
I am sorry, russian anon. It is not how things work here.

I might just have to do what the first anon suggested, which was my initial guess. I will just assign the zoomer student in.

Anonymous No. 16438538

Are you becoming a spy? Then I can ask why and identify you.

You may leave and find time, or we'd have time available. Otherwise you would have to be watched. Is this reality? Am I out of order?

Anonymous No. 16438567

>>16438538
Prepare the coconuts.

Anonymous No. 16438582

>>16438522
> I just wish I could replace all these people with machines. It is too much of a hassle to deal with human beings. All she has to do is literally

There’s a lot of people who, had ChatGPT already been out, I literally never would have given the time of day to.

Anyway, you have my sympathies, this is why I pursue my own projects alone or with a qualified peer. I do have grad students researching under me but I don’t bother giving them tasks that are actually important to me. In fact what I do is I try to get them to come up with my projects themselves, so they’re more motivated to finish them and feel a sense of ownership. After doing it a few times it gets pretty routine to get kids to see what needs to happen and feel like they came up with an idea themselves, hen they’re motivated to finish it and I just check in with them to guide them along the way, and even stick my name on the end of it (last in line, the “sponsoring faculty” position so-to-speak).

In summary, I think you need to chairlift this up as a montare loss, allocate a resource to finish the work for her, and just not renew her contract (start documenting your dissatisfaction now and document how she compares with other people working under you, this will protect you in case she tries to sue you for not rehiring her as retaliatory action)

Anonymous No. 16438617

That is very sweet attitude, I am happy to know the problem is not just with me.

I wish I could conduct research, teach classes and perform the experiments myself. I try to be in the lab as much as possible, but in the end I still rely on the TAs obeying orders.

Thank you and the russian anon for all the advice. I will go forward with Plan B, removing expectations and moving away the most important TA tasks to me and the other two TAs I have. Direct confrontation does seem to be out of the cards.

Anonymous No. 16438862

>>16437395
I know that feel, I'm in the same boat with a teaching assistant in one of my classes. They've missed most of the labs they're supposed to help manage, take weeks to get assignments graded, and when they actually do bother to get things back to me, they frequently have to be regraded.

Tried talking to them directly about the poor quality of their work several times, and it did nothing. Talked to our chair about them being reassigned and was told "sorry, no can do". Their hands are tied because of some stupid admin bullshit about international students.

There's nothing more frustrating than wasting time and effort on a do-nothing grad student.

Anonymous No. 16438903

>>16438617
Best of luck, you’re not alone in this experience it’s something we all, fairly frequently, have to deal with. I’m glad you still have some solid TAs that can help out.

Anonymous No. 16439529

>>16438522
>It is not how things work here
Country of effeminate pussies.

Anonymous No. 16439540

>>16439529
Not using parasites right now, though their still something I'd opt for, I'm running a super intelligence which uses precise sacrifices (like parasites), akin to a Rolex watch.

Anonymous No. 16439570

I don't really understand your relationship with this woman? Is she a PhD student you hired or some lab technician?

Anonymous No. 16439702

>>16439570
Not OP, but he mentioned they’re grad students, he’s calling them TAs because they’re given this job to fund their studies but I assume they should actually be called RAs (though the funding probably comes from the same place).