Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:40:43 UTC No. 16439694

>>16439688
You would be the certain people, OP.
You don't have to keep trying to convince me. I'm already 100% behind castrating you.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:45:39 UTC No. 16439698

>>16439694
I would gladly sacrifice myself for the greater good of the human race

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:48:43 UTC No. 16439700

>>16439698
Right now we're consuming resources that could have gone towards something truly great. Instead we're wasting them on shitposting. Really makes you think.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:50:28 UTC No. 16439704

>>16439688
Because society is cruel and evil with its aim to produce and sustain as much suffering in the world as possible. That's why if you even mention about wanting to commit suicide you will indefinitely be locked up in a mental hospital against your will with an indefinite release date to prevent you from ending your own suffering, because it's important to society that you suffer. That's why antinatalists are shunned, because they're trying to prevent more suffering from being created in the world. That's why eugenics are demonized, because people will better genes will likely suffer less in the world, and society doesn't want that. They want everyone to suffer as much as possible. That's why it's more socially acceptable to be in favor of torture than it is to be in favor of eugenics.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:53:26 UTC No. 16439708

>>16439704
You'll write all that but you won't go to therapy.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:14:17 UTC No. 16439737

Eugenics would be a good idea if this want just a three body problem where there's a solipsist existent in the midst of loads of NPCs. Especially if conditions were the same. However, eugenics is not necessary in the worlds in the multiverse where all people have bought good bodies.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:09:01 UTC No. 16439816

This is thoroughly explained by https://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:25:03 UTC No. 16439836

>>16439688
Because it doesn't work?

Anon they have tried this throughout history it doesn't work.

Also desirable traits is very subjective language. What desirable to you may not be desirable for someone else.

Also nature does not operate in the terms of what is desirable. These are human Made concepts and ideas which don't exist.

What makes humans much more important than all the species in the world that we must be catered too?.

Get off your soap box.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:30:29 UTC No. 16440007

>>16439688
Because there's no agreement on what a desirable vs undesirable trait even is.

The nazis used it to kill all the jews, leaving their own genetic defects untouched because they cared more about cultural background than genetic background. They killed gays, without realizing that being gay isn't something you can breed out of a population. It just doesn't work, there's an inherent gayness in the human genome that arises at a set amount that you couldn't eliminate without killing all humanity, since all humans are born with the ability to be gay.

There ARE genetic things we can breed out of a population, such as dwarfism or diseases that kill you at 40 years old, but when the only people who suggest taking people's rights away are racists who care more about your skin color you don't actually get anywhere. More than genetics matter in a person

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 18:03:05 UTC No. 16440064

Never seen an eugenics supporter kill themselves upon meeting me so pretty obviously they are only for it in bad faith.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:21:27 UTC No. 16440259

>>16439688
its not useful anymore since we can just use genetic engineering now

6 at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:27:08 UTC No. 16440267

>>16440259
We cannot engineer genetics. This implies we can construct genetics to our desired effect WE CANNOT.

if that was the case then we could make the most super talented attractive people

We can't

Try again chuddy

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:48:24 UTC No. 16440290

>>16440267
>we
you cant lmao

6 at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:55:10 UTC No. 16440298

>>16440290
- chudster is mad because his sci fi technology doesn't exist.

Biology uses statistical mathematics to make predictions. it isn't a precise science . It doesn't follow scientific laws like chemistry or physics.

We will never be able to geneticly engineer chuddy.

Deal with it.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:56:48 UTC No. 16440300

>>16439688
Much like communism,
It works in theory until it doesn't.
If a eugenics movement were to be introduced in the current world, guess who the primary targets of it would be after the disabled (which would also face pushback)?
You can't force the browns and blacks into eugenic programs because they would either fail to understand them or simply interpret it as another work of the "white devils".
Without proper surveillance, the hoodrats would just continue reproducing out of the programs eye anyway.
In "countries" like India, there's also just too many to ever reliably control, unless you poison even the rest of clean water they have.
The east asians would likely accept it, especially in countries like China where it would also be easier to enforce (as they have with the one child policy), but you'd need to forge a societal demand and expectation for such a thing among them.
The jew would cry antisemitism and keep shagging his cousin.
Ultimately, the only people who would be willing to undergo eugenic programs would be the whites--"for the good of the world"-- which would inevitably lead to even smaller numbers of their population (which is already dwindling in comparison to the growing vomit coloured mass), and even if it resulted in genetically perfect specimens, eventually they'd just become such a minority that they would have no power at all if they were to face a race war (which would be likely, if the remaining races grew jealous of any results), even if they were in high power positions within governments.
The road to hell is often paved with ______.
That being said, I have no comments on the effectiveness of eugenics in a hypothetical ideal world where their establishment is more than just a pipe dream.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:04:36 UTC No. 16440314

>>16440300
cool it down with scientific racism

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:19:56 UTC No. 16440336

>>16440314
Right, of course.
My bad.
>he said in a eugenics thread

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:33:17 UTC No. 16440347

I am now president and I declare that Asian women are peak beauty and that this is now the new beauty standard to strive for legally when making use of genetic tech for eugenics. And every new baby has to have cat ears because that's the new trendy thing.

See how that could go wrong?

6 at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:35:14 UTC No. 16440350

>>16440336
We already established it doesn't work.
Why do humans like interfering in nature?

If everyone stayed in their country of origin nobody would worry about racism.

Genetics are just adaptations of the environmental origin.

For example a polar bear can't live in the desert

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:47:54 UTC No. 16440366

>>16439688
What exactly would you achieve with eugenics?
Because if it's not maling the average woman look like this then count me out lol

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 22:40:42 UTC No. 16440405

>>16440366
All those girls you posted are just average looking chicks with an insane amount of makeup applied on them.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 22:51:05 UTC No. 16440415

>>16440405
Are you stoopid?
Makeup is scary, granted, but a closer look would show you most of them have a very attractive facial structure and overall have little need for it.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:26:42 UTC No. 16440449

In sufficiently abstract terms, yes there's nothing wrong with it. However in reality there are serious problems. Two of the most obvious:
1. What is a good trait and who decides? Are we smart enough to understand the consequences of artificial selection? Probably not. What happens if you stack up too much mutational load? What if you breed for intelligence and end up with autism and insanity?
2. People are assholes. Politics is inevitable and nasty. Will the eugenics program become political? Yes.