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Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:26:47 UTC No. 16441086
Thoughts on neuroscience?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:31:48 UTC No. 16441089
Our society is hardly ordered. It's one big intolerable mess.
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:43:41 UTC No. 16441101
>>16441086
not science.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:06:36 UTC No. 16441118
Everyone is in their personal biosphere where they are the best genetics and what's experienced in each individual biosphere is noise relative to the whole nature of the multiverse. You are given enough information to compete. You are given all the information. You can be invaded. You can get married. However, without marriage, or invasion, you never truly experience who behind the sense data.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:09:47 UTC No. 16441125
The technicalities of your biosphere can be next to none. My biosphere is about as complex as it gets and has billions of stars in Starfield. I literally live on a planet with billions of NPCs and to determine what is actually the cause of their actions is a mystery to unravel.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:10:50 UTC No. 16441127
This speech somehow became apparent in other people's view.
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:11:09 UTC No. 16441128
>>16441101
Explain, retard
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:15:51 UTC No. 16441134
>>16441128
Mouf
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:20:12 UTC No. 16441137
>>16441128
I would do that if you asked me like a human
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:35:55 UTC No. 16441166
>>16441089
Good take
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:38:39 UTC No. 16441172
>>16441166
It working seemingly. The next waves against the scheme are powerful
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:41:43 UTC No. 16441176
-dresses up as a piece of poo and does the 'im a failure' dance-
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 19:05:40 UTC No. 16441522
>>16441086
Neurons are FM encoded
Chemical synapses are their decoders
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:05:57 UTC No. 16441690
>>16441086
my thoughts is that beuroscience doesnt seem to be of much use but maybe one day it will
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:24:24 UTC No. 16441715
Useless
They haven't done anything so far. And every whore on tinder says she's studying neuroscience lol
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:31:07 UTC No. 16441875
Babies aren't able to do much,
It takes a relatively long time. The world, even a home and neighborhood, have so many objects, and cause and effect relations, that phenomenally sensate immediate experience, but then there is the need to remember all of these, and be able to recall all these, objects and potentials, uses, interactions.
A baby bangs a rattle on the ground and is delighted by its ability to cause phenomenon.
The sound, the maybe chemically exercisely rewarding feeling of banging the rattle, maybe attracts it back, maybe it remembers, it sees the object rattle and recalls the fun of hitting and sound.
Pretty intriguing the nature of laughter in general, babies can laugh, what's that about, well I geuss it's a branch of happiness that can be seen in other animals, if not exactly like a babies laughter, a smiling happy dog sprinting around.
So that a baby can laugh and be happy without any understanding of anything in the world, I geuss we assume that it is due to the biological body being in such a way, that pleasure and happinesses effect on the mind/boxy is to feel so good it makes a baby smile and laugh.
and to this day we love and pursue those feelings, and avoid that which may make us cry.
The baby is quite mindless, though it has a brain. And the baby and brain over time grow in tandem, and the mental mind imagination maps and methods are made , red firetruck does this and that, seen it a bunch outside, now I can recall it inside.
So that seems to be the conceptual, which the physical, chemical, biological has to functionally somehow engineer.
It appears light is very important, or electricality in this process, though I geuss all aspects are important, certain chemicals and materials, though there are many types of minded animals, I'm not sure if all brains are made of the same substances.
Maybe that gets into mamals vs insects and etc.
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:46:24 UTC No. 16441894
>>16441875
How is the red firetruck stored in my head, how is a brown dog, how is a yellow dog, how is Brahms lullaby.
The talk of the importance of electrical impulses, synapses, is intriguing, as the gradient spectrum of materialities of Nature, types of softs and hards, twists, turns, bends, bounces, liquid, solid, gas, goo, chemical reactions, then, the non molecular non atomic, EM, electrical realm that buffers and cushions all atoms, and mysterious energy of the nucleus.
And the analog.. to the development of the digital, hardware, software, and its dependence on electrical firings and safe keepings and storages. Displays, memory, encodement.
Of course we crash into the hard problem. How can any orientation of molecules and electricity possibly "know, and experience, and feel, and think, and memorize"
A very specific orientation apparently can, (the conscious animal kingdom, many orientations)
All the parts of the brain and body working on the smallest scales in tandem.
A baby goldfishess brain is so small, yet it darts around knowingly, and then we see amoebas and tardigrades traverse a landscape like a small fractal version of a larger animal.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:16:08 UTC No. 16443030
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:09:55 UTC No. 16443507
>>16443030
didn't expect, but hoped you might
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:39:34 UTC No. 16443525
>>16441894
>How can any orientation of molecules and electricity possibly "know, and experience, and feel, and think, and memorize"
Perhaps, as how the speed of light propagation slows in certain materials, elaborate networks and layers and loops and mirrors and feed backs and cascade chambers, pulleys and levers, of molecules, cells, slow and store light in such a way, that the much lights (much energies) at near the speed of light, incessent richocheting all about the united molecules of an organism, animate it towards livelihood and knowingness
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:44:33 UTC No. 16444967
>>16443525
Yeah, maybe has to do with infinity mirror effect, and splitting, making, entangled photon pairs, oscillation harmonization, sloshing energy fields in the body, brain, are forced to cohere and decohere extremely rapidly. Sometimes when laying down to sleep, closing the eyes, but mind still pleasantly vibratingly buzzing from activity, seeing that dark dark but golden glowing dark dark maroon fuzzy static, can make out kind of spiral looking pattern vibrating extremely fast.
I mean consider projectors, frames per second, shutter speed,
Is consciousness a continua stream, or a continuous pulsed ping pong paddled flow, keeping in consideration how many operations electrons can perform in a second, the lack of "continuity" of consciousness can still be high frequency like, streams of data converging, pulsating back and forth, a billion times a second, by a billion synchronized parts.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:35:01 UTC No. 16445117
>>16444967
>spiral looking pattern vibrating extremely fast.
I recalled, or tried to see it again, and believe it's not such a spiral(silly thing to have said), as it is a centered concentric circles oscillating very fast.
I am actively not trying to imagine or think of something , this is eyes closed, requiring some boring patient ("meditative" like) effort, and it's not always easy to happen, or at all or as clear as sometimes, but just try to observe and focus in on visual details you see, try to pay attention to any possible subtleties and nuance of what in dark room tired for bed laying down eyes closed you are seeing,
Trying to attempt to witness any "beyond boring or standard or plain or simple or expected or non mysterious or understood" direct visualization que and experience of possible the conscious mechanisms, sight and brain and mind and light, internally showing hints of its inner workings to, me, itself
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:43:45 UTC No. 16445751
>>16445117
OK just woke up and noted that it may be easier seen this pulsating concentric circle, with eyes closed but aimed at the shades closed window with sun glowing through it
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:23:00 UTC No. 16445807
>>16441086
the failure of connectionism with the c. elegans connectome meme was more or less the final nail in the coffin of neuroscience
never recovered from that
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:25:27 UTC No. 16445812
>>16441086
Saved by computational neuroscience. Read neuroscience by dale purves, then just switch to computational. You don't need to dig deeper into the chemistry and biology of it.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:38:27 UTC No. 16445835
>>16445812
>computational neuroscience
that's a meme too
you have a gorillion papers with stuff like picrel where they come up with ad hoc models that try to pin computational functionality to neurons (sometimes even the fucking dendrites)
are we any closer to understanding neurons? nope
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:16:26 UTC No. 16445892
>>16441137
>asking for courtesy without first providing it
you were born in a shithole where shitholers don't learn manners through immersion
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:32:55 UTC No. 16446639
>>16445812
>>16445835
You know how in chemistry class there are those examples of mixing 2 liquids or solid and liquid and getting interesting reactions, big bangs, big energy release, stuff like this.
Imagine consciousness works by doing stuff like that, paritcle collider, photon entanglement,
Think of a chemistry teacher in front classroom pouring liquid from one beaker into another then a burst of light and sound and smoke
A billion little scientists in your brain with 2 billion little beakers pouring chemicals together, causing reactions.
You, are the result of these reactions triggering into each other and the surroundings, bouncing around. You are a billion billowing bursts of liquid smoke and fire a second
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 20:05:37 UTC No. 16447786
>>16441086
What is the material that OP image is made of?
How different is the material of brain material and neuron material from animal to animal?
Do all animals have kind of the same blueprint style brain, more similar than different, the differences being tweaks.
Could biology have developed brains, neurons to be made out of any other material, or this specific substances happen to be the only possible conducive for the results?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 20:07:31 UTC No. 16447790
>>16446639
Consciousness might be, the chemicals, the chemical reactions, and the reactions to the chemical reactions, and much more
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:54:22 UTC No. 16448628
>>16447790
>Consciousness might be
the friends we made along the way
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 01:16:23 UTC No. 16449853
>>16441086
Imagine if an artist drew that as such with that nice black ink, looks lovely, all those little nodes too, very sharp, very snazzy
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 01:17:52 UTC No. 16449859
>>16441086
Is this OP image an ink drawing?
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 01:22:24 UTC No. 16449864
>>16449859
Looks like one of the original depictions of a purkinje cell, so circa 1900s
And yeah, ink
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 15:23:56 UTC No. 16450734
>>16449859
>>16449864
By Nobel laureate Cajal himself, as the stamp says.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:42:04 UTC No. 16451276
>>16449864
>>16450734
What's the scale, he had a microscope slide projection or something or those brain root river bolts are that big
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:10:06 UTC No. 16451304
>>16451276
They're pretty big, almost visible to the naked eye iirc
I think some neurons can even extend to several cm long
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:28:00 UTC No. 16452280
>>16451304
What is the material that OP image is made of?
How different is the material of brain material and neuron material from animal to animal?
Do all animals have kind of the same blueprint style brain, more similar than different, the differences being tweaks.
Could biology have developed brains, neurons to be made out of any other material, or this specific substances happen to be the only possible conducive for the results?
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 22:45:28 UTC No. 16454111
>>16441086
>Thoughts on neuroscience?
Dude....that's so meta and trippy.....
Thoughts on thoughts? Neurons asking neurons their thoughts on neurons.....
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 03:38:42 UTC No. 16454406
TFUS seems to be getting a lot of attention.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/355
>Transcranial ultrasound stimulation (TUS) is gaining traction as a safe and non-invasive technique in human studies. There has been a rapid increase in TUS human studies in recent years, with more than half of studies to date published after 2020. This rapid growth in the relevant body of literature necessitates comprehensive reviews to update clinicians and researchers.
Can any one in neuroscience tell me what we can expect to see from this tech in the next 10 years?